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He told her he liked her and wanted to have a relationship with her, and she wanted to make sure it was for real. Once he convinced her she agreed to be his girlfriend. It was obvious that they both liked each other. She did many first moves too, including asking him to sleep together. How didn't he know she liked him when they were so close, and she was so affectionate towards him?

She did tell him she didn't want the divorce. Literally. She apologised, she got angry, cried and begged, too. He still divorced her.

YH starts helping YY's case in episode 37, and Li Dai tells QS about it in episode 38. So throughout most of the Labour Dispute YH is helping but QS doesn't know about it. Also, Li Dai doesn't tell QS everything. She mostly gossips about YH and YY, but she's a lawyer, she doesn't betray her client. YH knows what QS proposes, but QS doesn't know that YH is engaged in it and even brings his own ideas.

No, Qin Shi didn't take the case to get her job back. She did negotiate it as an afterthought (she wouldn't be a good lawyer if she didn't) but the reason she had to take this case was Tang said she'd be fired if she refused, and she wouldn't be able to work in any other law company. So if TJH helped her it'd be really good for her work-wise, but it might harm YH's feelings so she refused.

1. That's actually not what happened. Other than saying "I love you" which neither of them ever say, she objected to the divorce quite strongly. She practically begged him to stay. Hardly a behaviour of a pride person. No, nothing changed at the time she ran after him. Her feelings were the same. We see her admitting to herself that she loved him the morning after the divorce talk, but to him she never admitted anything else than what was said on that night. All he did was humiliating her more and more without any positive results. And he didn't need to do anything else to make her jealous of YY. That night when he wanted divorce she learned about YY's son and he still refused to say whom he'd choose. They were both jealous and vulnerable, but while she begged him to stay married he wanted to divorce.
2. Even Li Dai laughs at the idea that Yang Hua might have been helping Qin Shi all along. If he did he shouldn't have been playing to the wrong team. No, Qin Shi didn't get the idea from YH via Li Dai. Actually the moment YH proposes to kick Yin out, it's already after Tang forbade Qin Shi from going after Yin. No, at that point Qin Shi didn't yet know YH was helping Yao Yao. She'll learn in the next episode. And once she learns she goes straight to Yao Yao and agrees to help her at the risk to herself, but she wants YH to stay out of it.
3. She didn't agree to let TJH help her with the case because it was right after his drunken marriage proposal. In fact it might be better for Yao Yao if he took that case because he had a stronger position to negotiate with Tang. But after that marriage proposal she didn't want to do anything Yang Hua might not like. So at this point she's really cornered.

Actually I think that ML was written very well up to the 35th episode, and I even think that up to the 39th episode he still could have been saved with better writing. But the 40th episode was hopeless. I wrote what I like about ML in my review https://kisskh.at/profile/10406075/reviews

OK, now I see that you really don't like FL so nothing I say will make you look at her objectively.

We don't really know who ML was rolling around with before they became a couple, but I guess we should assume that before they agreed to date they were free to roll with whomever they wanted, esp. that it was in the marriage agreement written by ML.

Actually both ML and his ex grab each other several times. So it'd be better to say that unlike ML who grabs his ex by hand we never see FL grabbing her ex.
We also might say that unlike ML we never see FL having a probable son with her ex.
And unlike ML we never see FL going to her ex's apartment.
Also, unlike ML we never see FL giving all her money to her ex.
And, unlike ML we never see FL proposing divorce over unfounded jealousy.
And, unlike ML we never see FL abandoning him for her ex.
And, unlike ML we never see FL complaining about ML to his ex.
And, unlike ML we never see FL sending her ex from the airport.
But, of course, she helped her drunken ex to get a taxi home, so she must be doomed forever!

1. They did have a normal relationship. They agreed on it in ep 21. They decided they wanted to date, she agreed to be his girlfriend, they were intimate, they lived together and slept together. YH was worrying about crossing the line earlier, but not after they became a real couple. Only when he decided to divorce her he brought the agreement again, and he actually accused her of breaking it. So it was like suddenly he had a problem with it that she had agreed to be his girlfriend against their original agreement.

2. Helping a friend and helping an ex are two different things. But here it was additionally complicated because he decided to help his ex against his girlfriend. He should have at least consulted his girlfriend before doing something like that, esp. that her job was on the line.

3. "yang hua helped them by having them move their target from yao yao's company to one of the executive of the company." --- No, he didn't. Qin Shi had the same idea before him, and her boss told her she'll be fired if she does it. So Yang Hua was working against her by pursuing that idea. In the end, Qin Shi had no choice but to quit her job. Her situation might have been much better if Yang Hua didn't "help" and consult her instead.

1. As I said, many times, it was OK for Qin Shi to choose whatever she wanted. It wasn't OK for Yang Hua to help Yao Yao against Qin Shi in her case when Qin Shi could lose her job because of it. The case was long. Yes, Qin Shi decided to switch sides in the end, but Yang Hua decided to help Yao Yao at the very beginning and for quite a long time he plotted against his girlfriend. When a man stands between his girlfriend and his ex, he should know his prfiorities esp. that Qin Shi had much more to lose than Yao Yao.

2. I don't agree that Qin Shi's help to Yao Yao had nothing to do with Yang Hua. Qin Shi is a lawyer. Lawyers aren't always representing the victims, and, working for a large company, Qin Shi often represented the other side. Even Li Dai told Qin Shi that she was crossing the line by risking the case to help Yao Yao. Qin She was a professional. She'd never do that if it wasn't for Yang Hua, and he actually knew it too, because she explained it to him earlier in the drama.

3. Yang Hua cannot have it both ways. Either he ends the marriage but not the romantic relationship or he behaves like there was nothing between them. If he still considered her his girlfriend he should never help Yao Yao behind her back.

4. Qin Shi wasn't really avoiding TJH using her marriage. We've seen the drama and we know very well she had no feelings left for TJH. Whether she was married or not it didn't matter and their divorce changed nothing. So while I understand his intentions I wonder why he never sees that he was wrong.

5. There was no REAL reason for YH to be jealous because QS never showed any affection towards TJH. Of course, jealousy isn't rational so I understand him, but he didn't have to act on it, and actually I don't think the original YH would act on it. If people divorced over unfounded jealousy there would be no marriages left.

6. Seriously, I don't know any man or woman who would mind if their partner helped their drunken ex to get a taxi to go home. It was just a normal thing to do no matter if it was TJH or any other colleague. It's not like she was spending the night drinking with him. And she actually asked YH to help her, so she wasn't meeting TJH behind his back.

7. No, it wasn't the same with Yao Yao. There is a difference between working with your ex and having a child with your ex. Half an hour earlier Li Dai told Qin Shi that YY's son looked like YH. But it was QS who begged YH not to leave her saying she wanted to stay married to him forever, and that they were already in a romantic relationship, while YH still refused to tell her how he felt about YY.

8. They did have a normal relationship. The fake marriage was one thing, but their romantic relationship was something else and they agreed on it from the beginning. So they were free to say whatever they wanted to, and they should have assured the other about their exes. QS told YH she'd never want to marry TJH, but YH didn't say that about YY.

Thank you! That's exactly my point. I too liked YH very much. If I didn't I wouldn't be so angry about his character being ruined in the last episodes.

We do see YH's struggles, but first of all it's his own decision, second at times it's difficult to say if he struggles more because of Qin Shi or Yao Yao (there's definitely more emotion in his eyes when he looks at Yao Yao and her son than when he looks at Qin Shi after they divorced), and third he is in a very good situation. He has a friend to whom he confesses, and his ex to whom he complains and asks for help. He tells QS's parents about the divorce but he doesn't inform his own parents, so he's speared his mother's nagging. He just got a new job. His life is looking good.

Qin Shi, on the other hand, is going through hell and she's left completely alone. The man she loved abandoned her, and her career is ruined. And we know how important her career was for her. Yang Hua was devastated when he lost his job after 2 years. Yao Yao is losing her job after 3-4 years and going to another one and everyone's helping her. But Qin Shi worked for her position over 10 years and she's finished. The company she worked for was better than most and more fair than most (or so we're told). Even if she'd find a new company now, by the time she'd reach the same position she'd be in her 40s, and we know how difficult it is to get promotion for women this age. She does start her own practice, but it'll take time and money to even carry on, not to mention earning money. She can't bring her old clients. She might have an unpaid credit for her apartment, and we know her parents don't have money to help. We know she's tough and doesn't show weakness in front of others, but she has no one, absolutely no one to talk about it.

And at that time Yang Hua knows very well what she's going through, and he knows that her career is ruined because of helping him and his ex, and yet he doesn't even give her a call to ask how she feels, or if she needs any help or money, or to say "thank you", or at least "I'm sorry". All he cares about is Yao Yao's case and how to bully Qin Shi to make her jealous. It's so immature and irresponsible!

Another problem is that Qin Shi is a very private person. So it's predictable that she doesn't tell anyone about heir divorce. She wants to resolve their issues without nosy people meddling in their lives. Yang Hua, on the contrary, tells that he divorced her everyone around without considering her feelings. When Yao Yao told Qin Shi in the presence of Li Dai that she knew that Yang Hua divorced her it was really mean! Qin Shi sacrificed so much for them and all she got was more humiliation.

Sadly, at this point the only person caring for Qin Shi is TJH. He was the only one who asked her how she was doing, the only one to tell her to choose herself over others, and he was the one who brought the crucial evidence in Yao Yao's case. Without that even her private practice wouldn't have survived. People keep comparing Qin Shi and Li Dai's respective situations, but Li Dai just changed jobs (after having secured another) while Qin Shi switched sides in the middle of a case. She would have lost her licence if she couldn't convince the Hotel to punish his employer. After losing a licence she could never be a lawyer again.

Also, it's never a good idea to complain about your girlfriend to your ex. And as much as I liked Yao Yao in general, what she did to Qin Shi was awful. I don't know her motives, perhaps she was jealous, but Yang Hua should know better. The way she described Qin Shi to Yang Hua was something like a "cold tough bi*ch who needs to be bullied into a corner so that he could win". And yet we know, and Yang Hua knew it too, that it was only facade. Qin Shi was fragile and vulnerable inside. She cried when others weren't watching. She wanted to love and be loved but had huge trust issues and feared intimacy. It was Yang Hua who made her begin to open, and now he behaves as if he knows nothing about her and just trusts whatever his ex says even though he knows how much it'll hurt Qin Shi.

Finally, even if he believed it was a good idea to become a jerk, I still don't get what he wanted to achieve. He said it was to make her come to him and admit that she loved him and wanted to be with him.

For one, he didn't really tell her that clearly himself. Instead, he wanted divorce. It was she who begged him not to divorce her, promised him she'd never want to marry TJH and that she wanted to stay married to YH forever. And yet it wasn't enough for him. Later, Li Dai told him it was obvious Qin Shi loved him and he was happy but still unmoved. Then Qin Shi told Yao Yao that YH was hers and she wouldn't give him to anybody (which he heard), and he still didn't care. Later he refused to answer again about Yao Yao, and finally left Qin Shi standing in the rain when she chased after him after he left the bar with Yao Yao. Every time she was coming to him but he was still unsatisfied. Finally, after they fail to meet at the airport he disappears on her for 7 months. Nothing changes during that time. She still has issues with marriage, and we don't see him grow at all. They used to be a great couple and now they're an awful one. If she had trust issues before, after what he put her through it will be so much worse. Even if they're lovey dovey after meeting at the end, they might never have again what they've lost. It's very difficult to rebuild trust in a relationship after something like that.

If, at first, he was giving her time and space, after plotting with Yao Yao he only added to a pile of issues between them. What was that for?

As I said, I loved the first 35 episodes, so I don't really believe the drama was meant to be so bad in the end. It looks as if someone kidnapped the writer and made them butcher the ending at a gun point. I'd love to see the original script.

Oh, come on! TJH dragged her to the male toilet at the very beginning, when YH and QS were still strangers. At that time YH agreed to act as her husband only for 3 days. And the wrestling scene (although I don't see anything wrong with wrestling) happened before they were legally married, and several episodes before they started their romantic relationship.

She might have been shocked at first, seeing her ex after such a long time, but she resolved whatever old issues she had with him long before she agreed to date her husband. It was clear that her feelings for YH grew and the ex was but a memory.

And when she helps his drunken ex and he confesses it's actually at the end of the drama. His confession took her by surprise but once he did she refused him, apologised to YH, and then avoided TJH and refused him again at the next opportunity (even though she was already divorced).

Half an hour before TJH confessed QS learned that Yao Yao had a son very similar to Yang Hua. And yet Yang Hua expected from her confession at that point while he himself kept refusing answering her about Yao Yao.

There's a difference between being active and passive, just as there's a difference between meeting someone at work and going to his/her apartment. At that point her husband abandons her, but is very actively helping his ex, giving her everything he has. She is helping his ex too, and you somehow don't see a problem with that.

And yet one more difference is that Qin Shi is generally a very helpful person. We see her helping many people throughout the series. Yang Hua, on the contrary, doesn't care about helping others. Qin Shi doesn't help THJ because he is her ex only because he's a lawyer who happens to be working in the same company. She wouldn't go out of her way to find him if he didn't work there. On the other hand, Yang Hua doesn't help Yao Yao because he has any experience in law, he helps her only because she is his ex. Can you see the difference?

So you really think that being jealous (without any good reason because Qin Shi never showed any affection towards TJH) is the same as having one's career ruined because of the actions of your beloved and his ex? Really, can't you see any difference between the two?

Has TJH's helping Qin Shi ever harmed YH's life prospects? No! So how it's the same?

And seriously, is he a little boy to not being able to be above jealousy? Qin Shi was jealous because of Yao Yao, and yet she could put that feeling aside and still help his ex, and at a big price to herself, too. She trully sacrificed for his ex!

Yao Yao wanted to quit her job anyway. And even if the entire case was not fair for her, it's hardly Qin Shi's fault, so why should Qin Shi pay with her own career for the failed career of a stranger? Why was it OK for YH and Yao Yao to decide about it for her?

Were Qin Shi and Yang Hua on a break? He did divorce her, but when did he end their romantic relationship? He told her he wanted to always be for her, and then he abandoned her. He keeps telling other people that he has a girlfriend, and yet he behaves as if he didn't care about her at all.

Yao Yao didn't move to Australia to work in the same company. She did it yet before the court verdict, so she didn't reach any agreement with her company. Both her lawyers were surprised that she was leaving so soon.

Sure, Yang Hua was his own person, and could do whatever he wished. But one needs to be a hypocrite to claim to love a woman and then repeatedly go against her behind her back.

Yeah, one might say that since YH divorced QS he was free to interact with any woman, but then it doesn't make sense to say he still loves QS when he does things with his ex behind her back.

The FL wrestled with her ex about some case and it was at the very beginning, before she and YH decided to enter not only marriage but also a romantic relationship. When she took care of her drunken ex she didn't do it behind YH's back, she asked him for help. Hardly a red flag, rather a show of trust and honesty. If she really wanted to be with her ex she'd never call YH at that time.

Yao Yao had a choice. Either pay the fee or not work in hospitality anywhere in China. It wasn't both. It was either or. They wouldn't be able to stop her from working in hospitality in other countries. So she could have done what she did anyway, that is go to work in Australia without paying the fee. Yao Yao had a life in Australia. She used to live there for years. Her ex husband was there, her son was going there to school. She didn't need the Chinese company to give her job there.

Li Dai took Yao Yao's case because she worked for the Trade Union. The Union paid her for that.

Yes, I know why Qin Shi decided to quit her job, but it was her decision to make. What I'm saying is that what Yang Hua did at the beginning to help Yao Yao could make Qin Shi fired against her will. He should have never done that, esp. not behind her back! It was her decision to make, not his and his ex.

He was like that at the beginning, but then his character was changed. I blame that on bad writing, nonetheless it's what it is. Well, at the bar, when Qin Shi looks at him, he deliberately avoids her gaze, so he definitely didn't come there for her, and if he did he could just enter and talk to her, esp. that she talked to him on the phone 5 minutes earlier and he knew she wanted to talk. He didn't need to stand there and wait for Yao Yao at the door. Also, Yao Yao knew that Yang Hua would come. She dropped the bomb about their leaving together just a minute before standing up and taking her bag readying herself to leave. She knew YH would come at that moment. And also, as I wrote in another thread, it was clearly said in a dialogue between Yang Hua and Yao Yao that they both made that plan against Qin Shi.

Yes, they did that to make Qin Shi feel threatened, but it's really an awful thing to do to a partner. Qin Shi didn't do anything to make YH feel threatened, but he did feel it anyway. Similarly, Qin Shi had already felt threatened because of Yao Yao's mere presence and her son too. And YH knew that since he overheard the conversation between Qin Shi and Yao Yao at Yao Yao's home. YH didn't need to play tricks on Qin Shi to make her feel even worse.

It was really sweet of Qin Shi that she wanted to help YH's ex. It wasn't sweet of him though. No woman wants to see her man helping his ex without consulting her. And in this situation it was even worse. She lost her job for his ex, and Yang Hua instead of being grateful to her, pretended to abandon her for Yao Yao. How mean one can be?

When Qin Shi asked his ex to work with her it was already months after YH broke up with her. And earlier Qin Shi helped TJH in some cases because no one else wanted to give her any cases, and without that she couldn't keep working. And she explained that to YH.

If you love someone and consider that person your girlfriend, you make all important decision with that person and not with everyone around. That money was to be for Qin Shi. If he wanted to give it to his ex he should have asked Qin Shi's opinion. Really, imagine your partner gives such a huge amount of money to his ex behind your back. How would you feel?

When Li Dai asked Yang Hua for help, he should have refused, because his help to Yao Yao meant going against Qin Shi. Or, if he wanted to help, he should have talked to Qin Shi in advance. No, he didn't help a lot because that detective couldn't find anything crucial, and anyway it's not like Qin Shi or Li Dai couldn't have hired detectives. It's their job. Qin Shi made it very clear that she'd help Yao Yao but she didn't want Yang Hua to be helping her, and he still ignored her.

Basically, it's one of the problems I have with Yang Hua. He talks about Qin Shi with everyone around: with his father, her parents, his friend and his ex. He consults them about her and makes decisions about her behind her back. The only person he doesn't talk to is Qin Shi. If my partner did something like that to me I'd consider it as a lack of loyalty.

Finally, I want Qin Shi to work wherever she wants to work. She shouldn't be forced to leave her job for which she worked very hard for many many years for her husband's ex.

I already replied to that in detail in another thread.

Refusing to hug Yao Yao is really meaningless in all of that. It's not what Qin Shi knew or what he wanted to communicate to her at that point.

Well, I don't know why you're in denial about all the plotting when it's so clearly presented in the drama. When she talked to him on the phone he didn't speak at all. He pretended to be just that detective's client. But at that very moment he was already at the bar to pick Yao Yao. Look at the place he's standing at. There's a neon TopBridal. It's the same place where minutes later he enters the car with Yao Yao and leaves Qin Shi behind. He wasn't confused about her question. He just didn't want to answer because he had all the plot prepared in advance and didn't want to ruin it. When they leave the bar with Yao Yao she tells him that he must stick to the plan to make Qin Shi make a step towards him. But then he leaves her standing in the rain even though she chased after him. That's because they had already planned that they wanted Qin Shi to come to the airport.

At the airport Yao Yao looked around to see if Qin Shi came and said:
"Did we go overboard yesterday? What if OUR PLAN backfires on us?"
Yang Hua: "It's OK, leave the rest to me."

You said: "He doesn't think that far ahead, and didn't realize qin shi actually believe yao yao when she told her he was going with her, otherwise he would've wait for qin shi to come to the airport, but instead he left right after seeing yao yao to the airport just like any friend would."

He did wait for her until they closed the gate. There's a scene when Qin Shi comes to the airport and finds the gate is being closed at the very moment. And at the same moment Yang Hua leaves the place, but passes her and they don't see each other.

So yes, it was a deliberate plan and that's why I hated the ending. I could understand the divorce and all the reasoning behind her not knowing her own feelings ect. although I don't believe it based on previous episodes. But at the end he behaved as a jerk and never even apologised.

She really couldn't tell him the truth at that point. There is such a thing like lawyer-client confidentiality and she could have lost her license for revealing the details. She told him enough so that he wouldn't be jealous, and she explained to him everything in detail once it was over.

It's good that Yang Hua chose to trust her, just as she chose to trust him whenever people were telling her he'd go back to his ex with whom he has a son. She trusted him for a long time until he himself proved her wrong by leaving the bar with his ex.

He really didn't tell her the truth about his ex until she forced him to. Rewatch the episodes if you don't believe me. That was actually the first time he disappointed me. And he never told her it was all in the past. He gave her a very evasive answer. And it's really not because he didn't know any better. He was very clear about it when talking to Yao Yao, and he did give Qin Shi a very clear answer in the last episode, so he knew how to do it when he wanted to.

"Yang hua also asked qin shi about her ex after seeing them together, and she was just as evasive, she tried to tell him it was all in the past, but to yang hua qin shi is not over her ex" ---- Yes and no. She was just as evasive but she told him why. She told him, literally, that she'd give him exactly the same answer he gave her about his ex. So if that answer made him insecure, the more reason he'd realise how insecure she felt after his answer.

Yes, I know why he gave her freedom and divorce even if she didn't want it. Still, plotting all the hurting scenario about leaving with his ex cannot be explained by wanting to give her freedom.

For one, she worked with her ex. It wasn't up to her. And she kept her interactions with him strictly business oriented. Secondly, she never did anything with her ex on purpose to provoke or hurt her husband. Thirdly, she was always honest about her past relationship with her ex and didn't lie or hide anything from YH. And whenever those two fought she always stood by YH's side.

On the contrary, the ML plotted with his ex a scenario that was hurting her in order to provoke her. That's hardly the same.

If you want to draw an analogy, then recall the scene where TJH asks the FL to marry him and divorce ML. She flatly refused but didn't say out loud that she loved ML and that was enough to hurt him so much that he wanted to divorce her.

But now imagine that at that point she'd behave exactly like ML did. I.e. she'd allow TJH to tell ML that she's leaving him to live with TJH and then she'd get in TJH's car and left ML standing there alone. Do you really think it's the same?

Ha ha, I looked her up for the same reason. But we don't really know who's responsible for that fiasco. Perhaps what she wrote was very different and then got butchered by the director, producer or somebody else.

Oh, well. Qin Shi didn't tell Yang Hua about the blackmail and business trip because it was for work, and because it was just a part of a larger plot created by her law office. She didn't really go there as a helpless victim. She and other people were going there to catch the bad guy! She was just a bite.

Yang Hua got into an accident because of what TJH told him, but that's only because TJH also wasn't privy to the plot even though he worked for the same law office, which only shows how secret it was.

Yang Hua lied to her about his ex twice. Once when his friend told him and the second time even after his father told him to tell the truth and talk it out. He still lied. Only then Qin Shi made it clear she knew Yao Yao was his ex and he had no other way but to admit it. And no, they didn't make up after that, because when Qin Shi asked him if he'd choose her over Yao Yao he gave a very evasive answer and she went to her bedroom shutting the door.

I think you only want to see what Yang Hua says but not what he actually does. When Yang Hua comes to the bar to pick Yao Yao he sees how shocked and hurt Qin Shi is but still leaves with Yao Yao, and when they go down the lane YY reminds him to stick to their plan so that Qin Shi would feel pressured. Then he leaves Qin Shi in the rain after she chased after him, and only calls her brothers to find her (he was the only one there who knew her brothers). On the next day, on the airport, both Yang Hua and Yao Yao look around to see if Qin Shi came, and when they can't see her Yao Yao asks him if they might have gone overboard with their theatricals and actually hurt Qin Shi too much, and he tells her not to worry because he'll take care of it. And yet he still does nothing for 7 months, allowing Qin Shi to believe he actually left with Yao Yao to Australia.

Now tell me, what you'd say about Qin Shi if she plotted something like that against Yang Hua with TJH, and then left him hanging for 7 months?