Did we watch the same drama sorry ? The ML was her partner who left her thinking it would save her from the trouble…
Yes! Nice to find a kindred spirit! I felt that everything was really unfair for the ML. Like okay, he didn't properly explain his feelings... so now he has to undergo hundreds of years of suffering because HRY has to get karmic retribution for killing a drought dragon that the ML told her not to fuck with? K. That seems fair /s
Also, I like my FL's to be smarter. HRY was resourceful and cunning, but not wise or intelligent. She not too bright for an ancient deity haha I always think it's interesting how humans project their own petty follies onto the gods. Because the reality is every god would be a little more like BJS after few thousand years. Just in my own life, I used to be gutted over many patient stories, but now, while I still care, I can be a little bit more objective in my assessment and treatment. And I think that makes me a better provider.
It was a little too much for me to stomach at a certain point. Maybe if the ML had been more detestable, I would’ve been like #girlboss, get your revenge! But he didn’t even know what he did wrong. It was like watching someone beat on their dog. The dog doesn’t know. Only the human. BJS was just such a sad puppy the whole time that my inner animal lover was crying. I wish I could be a bigger man like BJS. If someone had honestly pushed me THAT far I have two options: 1) Pay them back 50 fold. I would’ve chained her up at the bottom of the sea, the weight of the ocean bearing on her for eternity as I felt my power swell to magnanimous heights and move on~ (although, then that wouldn’t be BJS, but just speaking as my petty ass self 🤣) or 2) I would’ve peaced out. Not worth my time atp. I would’ve been like: y’know what? Take my power. Here’s the keys to heaven. I’m going to be some wandering, aesthetic monk that survives off the dew of a single ginkgo leaf and the energy of the universe.
Yeah, that’s true. Light cannot exist without the dark. They were born for each other. And hey, if they’re happy- which clearly they are by the end- who am I to judge? Someone’s dysfunctional relationship is someone else’s standard 🤣
I don’t mind a sad ending if it’s justified (loved A Moment But Forever. Bittersweet, a twinge sad, and yet quietly understated and filled with hope). I didn’t feel much during this happy ending tbh :/ Not a huge fan of retcon endings...Ig I was happy to see HRY go back and time and create an alternate timeline for herself and BJS- I would’ve been more interested in following up that story thread. Like seeing BJS and HRY with their son or the like. I was kinda done with their main timeline versions and really liked when BJS soul dissipated like ash on the wind. Really liked seeing HRY come to her senses in that moment and I wanted her to suffer longer over his loss.
I do kinda dislike this pervading psyche that to hate someone, you must’ve loved them first though. Because I believe hate and love can be mutually exclusive. But I’m lucky enough to say there is nobody I hate that I once loved. There are people who have disappointed and betrayed me and to say I never loved them just because I don't linger on them and wish them well would be ignoring how they made me feel at one point. But they're thankfully out of my life and aren’t even worth sparing a feeling for 😂 After all, the best medicine for lost love is apathy lol However, I have hated certain politicians in my country that thankfully, I’ve never once had to love. I do understand there's some romanticism behind hate and love being inextricably linked and different sides of the same coin, and the drama really leaned into that.
But anywho, putting this one behind me and just enjoying The Princess Gambit and A Dream Within a Dream right now :) Hopefully, they continue to stay enjoyable for me!
Did we watch the same drama sorry ? The ML was her partner who left her thinking it would save her from the trouble…
Thank you for your mature response. I see a lot of people posting: did we even watch the same drama? Did you even watch the drama? if you have an even slightly negative opinion on the show. We're all entitled to our own opinions and each of us have had different lived experiences, different relationships etc.
While I got very tired of the Feud, I commend the show for depicting exactly what we all came for: a Feud. This is definitely an aptly named drama! Definitely one of the more controversial watches I've had this year and a good conversation piece. Just because I had a lackluster time once the credits rolled doesn't mean I don't recognize this drama for being uniquely told or selling exactly what it promised.
I definitely agree with what you said about HRY feeling insecure about their relationship and BJS one-sided lack of communication was an enormous factor behind that.
I still would've personally preferred for it to end with maybe her giving up her life to set the alternate timelines straight, as I was personally not convinced by their relationship, but I'm glad they ended up on the same page and passed their love trial and hopefully, it'll be a smoother course from there.
Did we watch the same drama sorry ? The ML was her partner who left her thinking it would save her from the trouble…
I actually agree with all your sentiments. I think drama kinda skimped on building their relationship before the love trial/feud. Like I'm told that they've been together since time immortal, fell in love in the most ultimate form of opposites attract to shake the heavens, loved each other for so many centuries that they decided to endure a love trial together to strengthen their bond and abilities as a couple, but never once did I personally feel that way. Maybe that was the point. That they were never mutually in love before their love trial (since HRY had to be convinced multiple times that BJS truly did love her) and BJS one-sided love that HRY blissfully enjoyed without any shred of consequence finally caught up with her, resulting in 10 years of Mortal Suffering.
Personally, I wanted better for BJS by the end. I felt sorry for everything HRY went through- no parent should watch their child die, but at the same time, you'd think a millennia of knowing someone, she would have known that BJS's love language is acts of service, that he has difficulty expressing his emotions as a several thousand year old god who's role is to bring balance to the world, protect the stele and remain impartial, that he's a poor communicator etc. It says a lot when a bond that long and supposedly powerful gets shattered in 10 short mortal years, with some shadowy backhanded manipulation.
But BJS never gave up on her, never gave up on trying to understand her perspective. She paid him back 20 fold by the end, and yet he never turned to vengeance or outright violence against her. He wanted to give his wife a chance to explain herself, something HRY had never given him. He is already a bigger man and better partner than her. I have never looked at simp in such a negative light before...
And the fact that she had to be told again and again he loved her after she literally saw the pain and desperation on his face for centuries is wild to me. Like woman, get your glasses checked. And before anyone says: but he never properly expressed himself, but all the suffering she went through in the human realm blah blah once again, it makes no logical sense that all the years she's known him meant nothing (unless she's extremely stupid and unobservant) AND WOMAN JUST ASK. YOUR HUSBAND HAS ASKED SO MANY TIMES. IF YOU JUST SAID: HI I'M HERE TO KILL YOU BECAUSE YOU KILLED OUR SON, PROBLEM SOLVED.
I get that the drama doesn't exist without this feud, but at the same time, you can't drag me through 32 episodes and expect me to throw logic out the window and just accept and support that such a dysfunctional couple should be together after all that. It would've been more believable if she had acknowledged she never truly loved him to begin with, found out the truth, apologized, and said: We can be friends.
At a certain point, if there hadn't been a couple of nice plot twists, I would've been bored out of my mind with the same repetitive HRY tricks BJS, BJS spits up blood and asks her what he did wrong, HRY refuses to explain and continues to let him play home detective until his primordial core is so damaged her reverts to a child...
I'm happy if BJS is happy. But I wanted to tell both of them to fly a kite by the end. They need to put themselves back on the immortal dating market.
100% agree with your sentiments above...Like did she really think after killing an all powerful, immortal drought dragon that her only punishment would be 10 years, powerless in the immortal realm? Humans go through that shit every day hahaha
She should go to medical school- I've got plenty of suffering to show her rn hahaha
The novel kinda shaping up to be different though. So I started reading the book at the point of the most recent…
Omg ikr ! The saddest part of the drama was hearing that Kla’s only wish is for Tong to be happy, healthy, and have a loved one… and what about you? Your only wish is to win one basketball championship? 😭
I agree. I think it’s too early to tell if Kla is officially dead DEAD. As someone who just spent the evening reading the novel to see if Kla comes back, I can assure you the book is very different. In the book, Mark and Tong are making out when Tong gets a phone call that Kla has overdosed. His body was found next to drugs and is currently being autopsied. He stays dead in the novel, so there is a possibility that the overall outline of the novel stays the same, but I was in shock reading the differences.
Do book readers know if Tonkla somehow survives or is book quite different to series
The novel kinda shaping up to be different though. So I started reading the book at the point of the most recent episode to see if Tonkla comes back, but everything in the book has been different so far. Like the general story beats are the same, but how they happen is very different. For example, before Kla dies, Tong was told that the Golden Blood would kill him at 21, and he has a fight with Mark about whether he knew this or not. Mark does know this, upsetting Tong. So instead of having a fight about whether Mark is using his blood for good reasons, Tong fights with Mark for hiding the truth about his Golden Blood- maybe this will still happen, and everything is arranged differently in the book though. And then Tong gets drunk and decides he was going to loose his virginity so his blood wouldn’t be pure and maybe he’d live longer. He and Mark kiss passionately. And then he gets a phone call that Kla died from an overdose. He is told Kla’s dead body was found next to drugs and he is currently being autopsied (there is more behind this, but so far, this is what Tong knows). There’s no mention about Tong’s blood being made into a special perfume antidote either. So far none of this has happened in the show. Mark and Tong are in a relationship. Tong has DEFINITELY lost his virginity to Mark. They haven’t had this discussion about his 21st birthday being his death day. And Kla definitely doesn’t just “overdose”. We saw the poor boy get skewered 🥲 So I don’t know if Kla is dead for good. So much is different in the novel that it’s hard to be 100% sure where this story goes from here on out. Maybe the result will be the same, but the journey there is DEFINITELY different.
First 10 mins in and I’m not opposed, but I AM very confused 😵💫 Who are these characters, how do they know each other? Is public jacking off just a regular lunch break for the Dude 1? Is Dude 2 breaking in to rob Dude 1 only to get robbed of his virginity? Dude 2 has a “girlfriend”? Is the bridge really more secluded than the fountain? So many questions and I don’t even know the characters names yet 😆
Were some scenes from Ep. 1-8 released on wowow cut from the original Youku Ep. 1-8, or am I just misremembering? I admit it's been a minute since I saw the first 8 episodes on Youku...
Favorited BLs Watched: 1. A Tale of Thousand Stars 2. Bad Buddy 3. Eternal Youth 4. Semantic Error 5. SOTUS 6. Seven Days 7. You Make Me Dance 8. Not Me 9. SOTUS S 10. Color Rush 11. Guardian 12. Roommates of Poongduck 304 13. Vice Versa 14. Kieta Hatsukoi 15. Silhouette of Your Voice
1. The Untamed 2. Ossan’s Love Returns 3. Kiseki: Dear to Me 4. Happy of the End 5. Love for Love’s Sake 6. My Stand- In 7. HIStory 3: Trapped 8. We Best Love: No. 1 For You & Fighting Mr. 2nd 9. Unknown 10. Love is Better the Second Time Around 11. 4 Minutes 12. Spare Me Your Mercy 13. Cosmetic Playover 14. HIStory 2: Cross the Line 15. Jazz for Two
Favorite Dramas I Watched: 1. Word of Honor 2. My Beautiful Man Series 3. Stay with Me 4. Kiseki: Dear to Me 5. The Sleuth of the Ming Dynasty 6. Theory of Love 7. Be My Favorite 8. Blueming 9. My School President 10. I Will Knock You 11. Jack o’ Frost 12. Love Class Season 2 13. Unintentional Love Story 14. Our Dating Sim 15. Our Dining Table
From what I can gather online:-- March 7th: Drama premieres in Japan (Ep 1)- April 4th*: Expected release date…
That’s so exciting! The show ended right as they brought in the suspected culprit… I even read the books because I thought they’d never drop the remaining episodes. I’m so pleasantly surprised!
So March 7th is the date it’s released in Japan? But April 3rd is the date that the 9th episode is released in Japan? I’m confused by the two dates; someone please break it down like I’m a kindergartener 😂
Outside of the fact that that was one of the most traumatic parent reactions I've seen in recent BLs, my first thought was: how is Shen Nan getting water/food? There's bars on the window and no gap in the door. Unless the father went through psychopathic levels to keep him in there, like sneaking in at odd times and making random schedules to prevent Shen Nan from rushing and over powering him, I saw no food in that room... I don't know why I'm even fixated on this...😅
I feel so sorry for the ML…every episode is just him being raked across the coals by the FL. I kinda don’t want him and the FL to end up together… Atp, I either wish he would tell her about his condition. Or he dies in her arms so she can realize that her revenge has blinded her from realizing what’s really important. Their love for each other. Then she’ll know all this lying was futile and she should’ve just enjoyed their reunion and the brief time they have together…and then she has to spend the rest of her life living in regret.
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Also, I like my FL's to be smarter. HRY was resourceful and cunning, but not wise or intelligent. She not too bright for an ancient deity haha
I always think it's interesting how humans project their own petty follies onto the gods. Because the reality is every god would be a little more like BJS after few thousand years. Just in my own life, I used to be gutted over many patient stories, but now, while I still care, I can be a little bit more objective in my assessment and treatment. And I think that makes me a better provider.
It was a little too much for me to stomach at a certain point. Maybe if the ML had been more detestable, I would’ve been like #girlboss, get your revenge! But he didn’t even know what he did wrong. It was like watching someone beat on their dog. The dog doesn’t know. Only the human. BJS was just such a sad puppy the whole time that my inner animal lover was crying.
I wish I could be a bigger man like BJS. If someone had honestly pushed me THAT far I have two options: 1) Pay them back 50 fold. I would’ve chained her up at the bottom of the sea, the weight of the ocean bearing on her for eternity as I felt my power swell to magnanimous heights and move on~ (although, then that wouldn’t be BJS, but just speaking as my petty ass self 🤣) or 2) I would’ve peaced out. Not worth my time atp. I would’ve been like: y’know what? Take my power. Here’s the keys to heaven. I’m going to be some wandering, aesthetic monk that survives off the dew of a single ginkgo leaf and the energy of the universe.
Yeah, that’s true. Light cannot exist without the dark. They were born for each other. And hey, if they’re happy- which clearly they are by the end- who am I to judge? Someone’s dysfunctional relationship is someone else’s standard 🤣
I don’t mind a sad ending if it’s justified (loved A Moment But Forever. Bittersweet, a twinge sad, and yet quietly understated and filled with hope). I didn’t feel much during this happy ending tbh :/ Not a huge fan of retcon endings...Ig I was happy to see HRY go back and time and create an alternate timeline for herself and BJS- I would’ve been more interested in following up that story thread. Like seeing BJS and HRY with their son or the like. I was kinda done with their main timeline versions and really liked when BJS soul dissipated like ash on the wind. Really liked seeing HRY come to her senses in that moment and I wanted her to suffer longer over his loss.
I do kinda dislike this pervading psyche that to hate someone, you must’ve loved them first though. Because I believe hate and love can be mutually exclusive. But I’m lucky enough to say there is nobody I hate that I once loved. There are people who have disappointed and betrayed me and to say I never loved them just because I don't linger on them and wish them well would be ignoring how they made me feel at one point. But they're thankfully out of my life and aren’t even worth sparing a feeling for 😂 After all, the best medicine for lost love is apathy lol
However, I have hated certain politicians in my country that thankfully, I’ve never once had to love.
I do understand there's some romanticism behind hate and love being inextricably linked and different sides of the same coin, and the drama really leaned into that.
But anywho, putting this one behind me and just enjoying The Princess Gambit and A Dream Within a Dream right now :) Hopefully, they continue to stay enjoyable for me!
We're all entitled to our own opinions and each of us have had different lived experiences, different relationships etc.
While I got very tired of the Feud, I commend the show for depicting exactly what we all came for: a Feud.
This is definitely an aptly named drama! Definitely one of the more controversial watches I've had this year and a good conversation piece. Just because I had a lackluster time once the credits rolled doesn't mean I don't recognize this drama for being uniquely told or selling exactly what it promised.
I definitely agree with what you said about HRY feeling insecure about their relationship and BJS one-sided lack of communication was an enormous factor behind that.
I still would've personally preferred for it to end with maybe her giving up her life to set the alternate timelines straight, as I was personally not convinced by their relationship, but I'm glad they ended up on the same page and passed their love trial and hopefully, it'll be a smoother course from there.
Like I'm told that they've been together since time immortal, fell in love in the most ultimate form of opposites attract to shake the heavens, loved each other for so many centuries that they decided to endure a love trial together to strengthen their bond and abilities as a couple, but never once did I personally feel that way.
Maybe that was the point. That they were never mutually in love before their love trial (since HRY had to be convinced multiple times that BJS truly did love her) and BJS one-sided love that HRY blissfully enjoyed without any shred of consequence finally caught up with her, resulting in 10 years of Mortal Suffering.
Personally, I wanted better for BJS by the end.
I felt sorry for everything HRY went through- no parent should watch their child die, but at the same time, you'd think a millennia of knowing someone, she would have known that BJS's love language is acts of service, that he has difficulty expressing his emotions as a several thousand year old god who's role is to bring balance to the world, protect the stele and remain impartial, that he's a poor communicator etc.
It says a lot when a bond that long and supposedly powerful gets shattered in 10 short mortal years, with some shadowy backhanded manipulation.
But BJS never gave up on her, never gave up on trying to understand her perspective. She paid him back 20 fold by the end, and yet he never turned to vengeance or outright violence against her. He wanted to give his wife a chance to explain herself, something HRY had never given him. He is already a bigger man and better partner than her. I have never looked at simp in such a negative light before...
And the fact that she had to be told again and again he loved her after she literally saw the pain and desperation on his face for centuries is wild to me. Like woman, get your glasses checked.
And before anyone says: but he never properly expressed himself, but all the suffering she went through in the human realm blah blah once again, it makes no logical sense that all the years she's known him meant nothing (unless she's extremely stupid and unobservant) AND WOMAN JUST ASK. YOUR HUSBAND HAS ASKED SO MANY TIMES. IF YOU JUST SAID: HI I'M HERE TO KILL YOU BECAUSE YOU KILLED OUR SON, PROBLEM SOLVED.
I get that the drama doesn't exist without this feud, but at the same time, you can't drag me through 32 episodes and expect me to throw logic out the window and just accept and support that such a dysfunctional couple should be together after all that. It would've been more believable if she had acknowledged she never truly loved him to begin with, found out the truth, apologized, and said: We can be friends.
At a certain point, if there hadn't been a couple of nice plot twists, I would've been bored out of my mind with the same repetitive HRY tricks BJS, BJS spits up blood and asks her what he did wrong, HRY refuses to explain and continues to let him play home detective until his primordial core is so damaged her reverts to a child...
I'm happy if BJS is happy. But I wanted to tell both of them to fly a kite by the end. They need to put themselves back on the immortal dating market.
100% agree with your sentiments above...Like did she really think after killing an all powerful, immortal drought dragon that her only punishment would be 10 years, powerless in the immortal realm? Humans go through that shit every day hahaha
She should go to medical school- I've got plenty of suffering to show her rn hahaha
In the book, Mark and Tong are making out when Tong gets a phone call that Kla has overdosed. His body was found next to drugs and is currently being autopsied. He stays dead in the novel, so there is a possibility that the overall outline of the novel stays the same, but I was in shock reading the differences.
For example, before Kla dies, Tong was told that the Golden Blood would kill him at 21, and he has a fight with Mark about whether he knew this or not. Mark does know this, upsetting Tong. So instead of having a fight about whether Mark is using his blood for good reasons, Tong fights with Mark for hiding the truth about his Golden Blood- maybe this will still happen, and everything is arranged differently in the book though. And then Tong gets drunk and decides he was going to loose his virginity so his blood wouldn’t be pure and maybe he’d live longer. He and Mark kiss passionately. And then he gets a phone call that Kla died from an overdose. He is told Kla’s dead body was found next to drugs and he is currently being autopsied (there is more behind this, but so far, this is what Tong knows).
There’s no mention about Tong’s blood being made into a special perfume antidote either.
So far none of this has happened in the show. Mark and Tong are in a relationship. Tong has DEFINITELY lost his virginity to Mark. They haven’t had this discussion about his 21st birthday being his death day. And Kla definitely doesn’t just “overdose”. We saw the poor boy get skewered 🥲
So I don’t know if Kla is dead for good. So much is different in the novel that it’s hard to be 100% sure where this story goes from here on out. Maybe the result will be the same, but the journey there is DEFINITELY different.
1. A Tale of Thousand Stars
2. Bad Buddy
3. Eternal Youth
4. Semantic Error
5. SOTUS
6. Seven Days
7. You Make Me Dance
8. Not Me
9. SOTUS S
10. Color Rush
11. Guardian
12. Roommates of Poongduck 304
13. Vice Versa
14. Kieta Hatsukoi
15. Silhouette of Your Voice
1. The Untamed
2. Ossan’s Love Returns
3. Kiseki: Dear to Me
4. Happy of the End
5. Love for Love’s Sake
6. My Stand- In
7. HIStory 3: Trapped
8. We Best Love: No. 1 For You & Fighting Mr. 2nd
9. Unknown
10. Love is Better the Second Time Around
11. 4 Minutes
12. Spare Me Your Mercy
13. Cosmetic Playover
14. HIStory 2: Cross the Line
15. Jazz for Two
1. Word of Honor
2. My Beautiful Man Series
3. Stay with Me
4. Kiseki: Dear to Me
5. The Sleuth of the Ming Dynasty
6. Theory of Love
7. Be My Favorite
8. Blueming
9. My School President
10. I Will Knock You
11. Jack o’ Frost
12. Love Class Season 2
13. Unintentional Love Story
14. Our Dating Sim
15. Our Dining Table
Atp, I either wish he would tell her about his condition. Or he dies in her arms so she can realize that her revenge has blinded her from realizing what’s really important. Their love for each other. Then she’ll know all this lying was futile and she should’ve just enjoyed their reunion and the brief time they have together…and then she has to spend the rest of her life living in regret.