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On ABO Desire Aug 17, 2025
Title ABO Desire
ABO Desire is adapted directly from Desire by Nong Jian, and that fact is plastered everywhere from the opening credits to the official synopsis, and the tags are everywhere IMDb, MDL, iQIYI, Viki, GagaOOLala:

OMEGAVERSE, PSYCHOLOGICAL MANIPULATION, POSSESSIVE MALE LEAD.

These tags are not merely decorative; they define the narrative. To ignore them and then object to Hua Yong’s characterization is contradictory.

By logic, it’s like walking into a horror movie and then complaining it has blood and jump scares. You knew the genre before you bought the ticket.
Replying to Froehlein Aug 17, 2025
Title ABO Desire
As someone who watches the series fairly neutrally because I'm not particularly emotionally invested, I look at…
@Froehlein I completely see where you’re coming from, and I actually agree with a lot of what you said about controversial characters sparking important discussions. I don’t have time to reply to each of your points, but regarding number 1

Yes, you don’t need to read the novel first, but this isn’t some random marketing trick where people had no idea what they were stepping into. The series is adapted directly from Desire by Nong Jian, and that fact is displayed everywhere, from the opening credits to the official synopsis. Not just on MDL, but also on IMDb and the actual streaming platforms like iQIYI, Viki, and GagaOOLala, the tags are crystal clear: OMEGAVERSE, PSYCHOLOGICAL MANIPULATION, POSSESSIVE MALE LEAD. These tags are not merely decorative; they define the narrative. To ignore them and then object to Hua Yong’s characterization is contradictory.

By logic, it’s like walking into a horror movie and then complaining it has blood and jump scares. You knew the genre before you bought the ticket.
On ABO Desire Aug 17, 2025
Title ABO Desire
So many people on MDL and across social media are complaining about Hua Yong’s character in ABO Desire. Some call him toxic and manipulative, and many are even saying they’ll drop the series after episode 8. But this reaction overlooks what makes the story compelling in the first place. Hua Yong isn’t meant to be a simple, safe “green flag” partner. His complexity, his flaws, and even his darker traits are what drive the tension and keep the narrative alive. Without that edge, ABO Desire would just be another ordinary romance, stripped of the very conflict that makes it worth watching.

But here’s the thing:
1. They’re following the novel.
This is not some random change, Hua Yong’s behavior is written this way in the source material. This is the entire essence of the story. If you don’t like the novel or the story, it’s a bit contradictory to start watching the series.

2. If he were a perfect green flag, it would just be another bland romance.
We already have plenty of soft, healthy, slice-of-life romances. What makes Hua Yong interesting is that he’s flawed, complicated, and unpredictable. That’s where the tension and drama come from.

3. His role is designed to engage us.
He’s not meant to be a simple, safe character. He’s supposed to challenge the relationship dynamic, make us feel conflicted, and raise the stakes. If every story only gave us the “perfect boyfriend,” we’d all be bored in three episodes.

4. Reminder: this is fiction.
We’re talking about ABOs, pheromones, supernatural hierarchies, none of this is real. The toxic, manipulative traits are narrative tools, not moral lessons to copy in real life.

5. If we start calling out every toxic and manipulative character, the list would never end.
Not just in BL, but everywhere.
In Western dramas, we have Walter White (Breaking Bad), Joe Goldberg (You), Cersei and Littlefinger (Game of Thrones). All manipulative, toxic, but brilliant to watch.
Even in BL, characters like JaeMin (Secrets Relationships) or Vegas (KinnPorsche) are manipulative, yet fans loved the complexity.

Hua Yong is written the same way, as an enigma, as a dangerous yet magnetic figure. That’s the whole point of this story, not to give us comfort but to make us question, react, and feel. Just because viewers watch a character who is toxic and manipulative doesn’t mean we should support it. No one watches a serial killer drama and says, “hey, I want to do that.” These dramas are meant to challenge us, not guide us.

Fiction is where we confront uncomfortable truths.
We explore trauma, redemption, and the darkest parts of humanity, not to glorify them, but to understand their impact. That’s the point of storytelling: it creates tension, challenges empathy, and holds up a mirror to society’s ugliest sides.

Fiction isn’t meant to give us perfect men, it’s meant to give us complex ones. Hua Yong embodies that complexity, and that’s what makes this story worth watching
Replying to Daffodils Aug 16, 2025
Title ABO Desire
Lovely expressed but he won't shatter his heart. He will learn his love is on the top of this strange change of…
Thank you! I haven’t read the novel, just sharing my thoughts while watching episode 8 😊
I can’t wait until he finds out
On ABO Desire Aug 16, 2025
Title ABO Desire
Huo Young to Sheng Shaoyou is everything gentle
a partner who makes homemade soup
who carries burdens with quiet strength
who devotes himself as though nothing else exists

But Sheng Shaoyou does not know
that behind the tenderness lies power
Huo Young is the strongest of them all
a man who commands countless lives with a single word

That night, Sheng Shaoyou returned home
pressed himself into Huo Young’s embrace
and whispered softly
‘I ran into a lunatic today’

Little did he know…
the lunatic was his own Huo Young
the same man who quietly orchestrated everything from the shadows
the same arms that held him close
were the ones weaving ruin behind his back

When truth tears away the veil
love will bleed into betrayal
and the man he thought was sanctuary
will shatter his heart as the cruelest storm

For devotion and destruction
were always one in Huo Young’s hands
Replying to Sov Aug 16, 2025
For those who don't know it yet, this BL is directly linked to the first chapter of "Close To You", (a…
Thank you for this! Very helpful.
I watched Close to You a few months ago, and if you hadn’t mentioned it I wouldn’t have remembered. They were one of my favorites in episodes 1 and 2, so I’m really happy they’re getting a full 6 episodes. Hopefully the other 3 couples from Close to You will get the same treatment.
Replying to Sov Aug 16, 2025
Link to episode 2 : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bep8R-eHGIc
Thank you
Replying to NLE Aug 16, 2025
Describing Ping (the actor who portrayed Kosol) as ugly is just lazy. He’s tall, muscular, hot and handsome…
Unlike you, I’m educated enough to know the difference between having a preference and being insulting. If I don’t find an actor attractive, I don’t resort to calling them “ugly” because that’s just plain disrespect. For example, there are plenty of actors who aren’t my type, but I just say they’re not my preference or focus on their acting. Having opinions is fine, but tossing around the word ugly shows a lack of basic respect. And please, don’t lecture me about “pretending to be a saint” when you’re the one throwing cheap insults at people’s looks.
Replying to NLE Aug 16, 2025
Describing Ping (the actor who portrayed Kosol) as ugly is just lazy. He’s tall, muscular, hot and handsome…
So basically you’re admitting you only watch shows for looks? That’s pretty shallow. A good series is built on story, acting, and chemistry, not just who you personally find handsome. And for the record, Ping is not ugly, he’s objectively attractive. If you’re only here for eye candy, maybe you really should go outside instead of pretending to care about the show.
Replying to Jazz07 Aug 16, 2025
What the fuck did I just read…so we are basing love interests on their looks and not the chemistry the characters…
Sure, fan shipping isn’t always for everyone and that’s fine. But saying Ping is “ugly” is unnecessary. If the ship doesn’t work for you, move on. No need to drag down an actor who’s tall, handsome, and clearly loved by plenty of fans.
Replying to zzzzz___ Aug 16, 2025
I liked in the trailer but actually watching it i realized is not my type. i will finish it tho. For now i would…
Describing Ping (the actor who portrayed Kosol) as ugly is just lazy. He’s tall, muscular, hot and handsome and easily someone people would line up for. He and Nut already proved their chemistry in PitBabe, which is why they’re back together here. And let’s be real, Nut is the one stealing every scene. If you’re only watching for who’s “pretty,” you’re missing the actual spark that makes this show worth it.
On Song Seung Heon Aug 14, 2025
He was absolutely stunning in Obsessed — easily one of the most memorable and passionate love scenes I have ever seen on screen. His physique was perfection, every line and detail sculpted beautifully, and his confidence made it even more captivating. And honestly, that perfect body combined with arguably the best butt in cinema? Completely unforgettable.
Replying to NLE Aug 14, 2025
We’re heading into episode 9 and this isn’t just about being “spoiled” over NC scenes or kisses. It’s…
I’m enjoying the series too. Honestly, it was supposed to be my favourite Japanese BL of the year, a solid 10/10.

But after that disappointing scene, I’m dropping it to a 9/10. Four episodes left, so let’s see if they can deliver and bring it back up to a perfect 10 for me.
Replying to Ms Jackson Aug 14, 2025
The comments complaining about the NC and kisses are cracking me up 🤣We are so spoiled right now, it's okay…
We’re heading into episode 9 and this isn’t just about being “spoiled” over NC scenes or kisses. It’s about payoff, consistency, and respecting the emotional journey we’ve invested in. Even before the first episode, these two had known and liked each other since high school. We’ve seen years of feelings, watched them grow into mature adults, working as adults, dating, and loving each other so deeply. Episode 8 made it crystal clear they both wanted to take that next step and they even stayed overnight. If you’re going to give us an NC scene, then give it to us properly. Don’t tease us for weeks only to serve something half-hearted and rushed. I’d honestly rather get nothing at all than be left with this kind of disappointment. This isn’t about wanting fan service for the sake of it. It’s about delivering the moment we’ve been building toward for eight episodes, a moment that should have been charged with everything they’ve been through. They deserved that. We deserved that.
Replying to Ms Jackson Aug 14, 2025
Typically with JBL's its either/or. It will be scandalously steamy or it will be fish kisses, there is rarely…
My point is, in episode 8 both leads clearly wanted to do it, they even stayed overnight. If you’re going to give us an NC scene, then give it to us properly. Don’t half-do it. I’d honestly rather get nothing at all than end up feeling this disappointed.
Replying to Ms Jackson Aug 14, 2025
Typically with JBL's its either/or. It will be scandalously steamy or it will be fish kisses, there is rarely…
I’ve watched so many Japanese BLs and movies that gave us great great scenes such as

My Personal Weatherman
Life: Love on the Line
Tokyo in April is…
Love is Better the Second Time Around
When It Rains, It Pours
Eternal Yesterday.

Even the currently airing Love Sea is delivering.
On Stay by My Side after the Rain Aug 14, 2025
After watching MonPak’s NC scene in epiosde 4 of Doctor’s Mine (Thai BL) and episode 2 of Love Sea The Home for Lovers (Japanese BL), both pure 10/10 magic, then coming here, it honestly felt like a letdown. They have known each other for so long, their love is deep and undeniable, and yet when the moment finally came, it just… fell flat.
Where was the passion? The hunger? That raw, unfiltered emotion you expect when two people who have loved each other for years finally come together? Instead of a kiss that stole my breath away, it felt restrained, almost hesitant, like the scene didn’t dare to match the weight of their history.

It hurt more because we know their bond runs deep. This wasn’t just a random hookup; this was love years in the making. And for it to be executed so poorly, it’s like watching a fire you’ve been tending for ages flicker out right when you thought it would blaze the brightest.
Replying to KiKo Tsukino Aug 14, 2025
Where did you get yours years ago? Is it available for international shipping?As for thr DVD box set , I hope…
Get it. 100% worth it, free international shipping. Make sure it’s English subtitle though, I got my many years ago. Also check Ebay