đŸđ My Sweetheart Jom â 9.5/10 đ From busy city life to peaceful countryside vibes, this show is pure comfort. Saint as Jom = total daddy energy đ«¶, and Yo is the cutest little brat. A perfect slow burnâno kiss until ep 10, but that lotus pond kiss + buffalo finale? Worth every second! Cozy, romantic, and heartwarming. Thursdays will never be the same!
đŸđ My Sweetheart Jom â 9.5/10 đ From busy city life to peaceful countryside vibes, this show is pure comfort. Saint as Jom = total daddy energy đ«¶, and Yo is the cutest little brat. A perfect slow burnâno kiss until ep 10, but that lotus pond kiss + buffalo finale? Worth every second! Cozy, romantic, and heartwarming. Fridays will never be the same!
Ok Tuo is a red flag but I'm only a girl and this is fiction...I love it. Sue me if you want!The wall pushing?…
Youâre definitely not alone â Iâm a guy, and I also think itâs hot.
Just because someone watches dark or controversial content doesnât mean they support it. No one watches a serial killer film or documentary and thinks, âWow, I want to do that.â
Fiction is meant to confront uncomfortable truths â to explore trauma, abuse, and the messy, complex sides of human nature. Itâs not about glorifying bad behaviour, itâs about understanding it, processing it, and reflecting on it. Thatâs what powerful storytelling does â it makes you feel, think, and question.
Honestly, so many comments here clearly donât get the difference between real life and fictional narratives.
Tbh I am kinda tired of JBLs where 30 year old men act like a couple of 13 year old. It's the big 2025 and grown…
Absolutely agree with you 100%. Iâve noticed the same thing â so many Japanese BLs have mature adult characters acting like clueless teens when it comes to romance or intimacy. It feels super immature and unrealistic, especially when theyâre supposed to be working professionals. Like, come on, itâs 2025 â surely we can get past the âwe canât even sit next to each other in publicâ phase?
That said, I still have a soft spot for Japanese BL, especially My Personal Weatherman and Tokyo in April Is. Those two really did a great job at balancing emotional depth with adult-level maturity.
But yeah⊠that restaurant scene? Painfully awkward. Letâs hope future episodes (and future series) give adult characters the confidence they should have.
Episode 1 had me cackling â Nut isnât even acting, heâs just being his slutty, diva self, like a queen born in the wrong era and thriving anyway! Iâm obsessed. This is exactly the kind of chaotic energy I need to light up my Friday nights for the next 3 months. Bring it on! đ đ·âš
I totally get what youâre saying, and I respect that perspective, but I feel a bit differently because of the…
Thank you for your response and for stating that you donât have double standards when it comes to forced intimacy. You mentioned you immediately call out problematic sexual behaviour when you see it on screen â and I respect that.
But by that logic, are you planning to call out every single piece of media that includes rape, sexual assault, or morally disturbing themes? Because if so, you might need to say goodbye to half of modern storytelling. Game of Thrones, The Handmaidâs Tale, 13 Reasons Why, Outlander, Law & Order: SVU, Monster, Kill Bill, Gone Girl, The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo â these are just a few examples of critically acclaimed, award-winning works that depict deeply uncomfortable content, often including violence and abuse.
Itâs not limited to Western shows either. A lot of BL dramas these days explore heavy, uncomfortable storylines. If youâre committed to calling all of them out, I look forward to seeing your thoughts on every one of those series too.
For the record, watching dark or controversial content does not mean someone supports it. No one watches a serial killer documentary or film and thinks, âWow, I want to do that.â
Fiction is a space to confront uncomfortable truths â to explore trauma, abuse, and the complexities of human nature. Itâs not about glorification. Itâs about understanding, processing, and reflecting on those experiences. Thatâs what good storytelling often does â it challenges viewers, stirs emotions, and invites critical thought.
And lastly, please donât start your comment by shouting âGIRL!â at me. FYI, guys watch BL too. If you donât know my gender, maybe check my profile â or better yet, donât assume. Stereotyping people based on the genre they enjoy doesnât help your argument, and it certainly doesnât reflect well in a respectful discussion.
Enjoying this so far and wanna give it a chance wholeheartedly but one question is the Gagaoolala version and…
Even though the YouTube version is labeled as uncut and includes the NC scene, itâs still shorter than the GagaOOLala version. The GagaOOLala version is about 2 minutes longer and even includes a BJ scene + another sex scene that was completely left out on YouTube. Trust meâwatch it there for the full experience, you wonât regret it. đ
Such a cute BL! đ Twelve weeks of fake-dating-turned-real-love perfection. All four leads? Gorgeous. Episode 12 finally gave us two kissesâand the sound effects? Chefâs kiss. đ Worth the wait! Light, fun, non-toxicâpure Thursday night serotonin.
Episode 6 was adorableâboth of them being jealous is peak cuteness. đ But Japan⊠we need to talk. Itâs 2025, and that âkissâ was literally 0.5 seconds. A blink. A peck. Iâve seen goldfish kisses last longer. đ
Please, give us a real kiss. I know you can do it. Donât make us wait until the finale for the actual payoff!
Please stop promoting illegal platforms and watch this on their offical YouTube channel (STRONGBERRY) instead. The actors, crew, and creators poured their time, talent, and energy into bringing this story to life â they deserve our support, not to have their work stolen.
This series is available for FREE on YouTube. There is absolutely no excuse to promote piracy here. Itâs not just unacceptable â itâs downright disrespectful to the people who made the series and to fans who actually choose to support it the right way.
Sharing illegal streaming links isnât just unlawful. Itâs a slap in the face to the entire production team. Promoting piracy doesnât âhelpâ anyone â it actively destroys opportunities for the creators, actors, and staff who work tirelessly to give us the content we love.
If you truly care about BL and want to see more quality series in the future, then support them through legal channels. Thatâs how the industry grows â and frankly, itâs the bare minimum any real fan should do.
I totally get what youâre saying, and I respect that perspective, but I feel a bit differently because of the…
I get your point, Sunghoon, and I actually agree with some of what you saidâespecially that the first kiss in Episode 1 wasnât okay, and Tuo clearly crossed Junxiâs boundaries.
But hereâs the thingâare we going to cancel every show or movie that depicts rape, coercion, or morally disturbing behavior? If we did, say goodbye to half of modern storytelling.
Game of Thrones, The Handmaidâs Tale, 13 Reasons Why, Outlander, Law & Order: SVU, Monster, Kill Bill, Gone Girl, The Girl with the Dragon Tattooâall explore horrific acts. Yet they are praised, awarded, and widely consumed.
Watching dark, controversial content does not mean you support it. No one watches a serial killer movie and thinks, âWow, I wanna do that.â
Fiction is where we confront uncomfortable truths. We explore trauma, redemption, and the darkest parts of humanityânot to glorify them, but to understand their impact. Thatâs the entire point of storytelling: it creates tension, tests empathy, and holds up a mirror to societyâs ugliest sides.
Millions watch Game of Thrones, Breaking Bad, or The Handmaidâs Taleâfull of murder, rape, assault, and worse. Do they all âsupportâ those acts? Of course not.
So noâwatching Secret Lover does not mean fans are okay with these early scenes. It means we understand the difference between fiction and realityâsomething a lot of people in these comments seem to be struggling with.
I totally get what youâre saying, and I respect that perspective, but I feel a bit differently because of the…
Iâm genuinely curiousâwhat is your exact definition of âromanticisedâ? Because it sounds like your standard shifts depending on the outcome of the relationship.
From your explanation, you seem to accept the forced kissing in Secret Relationships because SuHyeon and JaeMinâs actions were framed as âabusiveâ and the characters didnât end up together. But in this series, because Tuo and Jun Xi are meant to become lovers, you see a similar moment as automatically âromanticised.â
So by your logic, are you saying:
If a character forcibly kisses someone but they donât end up lovers, itâs acceptable because itâs just âshock valueâ?
But if the same action happens and they do end up lovers, then it becomes problematic because itâs âromanticisedâ?
That feels like a double standard. Forced kisses in any dramaâregardless of the final couple outcomeâare written to serve a purpose in the story, whether itâs tension, conflict, or character growth. In Episode 2 here, Jun Xi was surprised and maybe uncomfortable for a moment, but he didnât push Tuo away or reject him later. By Episode 3, he clearly wasnât holding any resentment.
If we applied your standard consistently, then nearly every romance drama, BL or not, would be guilty of âromanticisingâ nonverbal consent:
TharnType â Tharn initiates without verbal permission.
2gether the Series â Sarawat leans in first every time.
Semantic Error â Jae Young kisses Sang Woo unexpectedly, but they end up lovers.
Even Western shows like Bridgerton or The Vampire Diaries rely on nonverbal cuesâare they all âromanticisingâ problematic behavior too?
To me, romanticised means the show frames harmful or abusive behavior as desirable without any consequence or emotional impact. In this series, Jun Xiâs initial shock is part of his journey, and the story doesnât erase thatâit evolves their dynamic naturally.
So Iâd really like to hear your definition, because right now it sounds like the deciding factor for you is simply whether the characters end up together or not.
I totally get what youâre saying, and I respect that perspective, but I feel a bit differently because of the…
I get what you meanâconsent isnât just about avoiding force, itâs also about respecting boundaries and communication. But I think this scene actually does show consent, just not in a verbal way.
Consent can be verbal or nonverbal. In Tuo and Jun Xiâs moment, the body language says it all: Jun Xi doesnât push him away, flinch, or look distressed. After the initial surprise, he leans in and allows the kiss to happenâthatâs a clear, silent âyes.â
If we applied a rule that consent only âcountsâ when itâs verbal, then nearly every beloved BL first kiss would be a problem:
Sarawat & Tine (2gether) â No verbal asking, just mutual tension.
Jae Young & Sang Woo (Semantic Error) â Surprise first kiss, but totally charged with consent through actions.
Chi Cheng & Wu Suo Wei (Revenged Love) â Many kisses start without words, yet the mutual signals are obvious.
To me, this scene wasnât about Tuo disregarding boundariesâit was about the messy, realistic way first kisses often happen between friends crossing into romance. He did need that pause to read the situation better, but the interaction stayed within the space of mutual, nonverbal consent.
I totally get what youâre saying, and I respect that perspective, but I feel a bit differently because of the…
I get your point, Aries21âabsolutely, in real life you do not grab someone and kiss them without asking. That would be harassment. But I have to respectfully disagree with how youâre applying that to Secret Lover.
You rated Secret Relationships a 10/10 (which I agree withâone of the best Korean BLs ever). But if weâre talking about consent and âjarringâ moments, letâs look at Episode 6:
SuHyeon pushed DaOn against the wall and kissed himâthere was zero verbal consent, and he even used SuHyeonâs safety against him.
Later in that same episode, JaeMin pushed DaOn onto the couch and attempted sexual assault. Then he stabbed himself to manipulate DaOn, leaving him traumatized.
By the final episode, JaeMin kidnapped DaOn, forced a marriage, and tried to kill him.
Thatâs a lot more toxic and non-consensual than anything in Secret Lover, yet you found Secret Relationships not âjarringâ and gave it a perfect score. So why does a brief bathroom scene in Episode 1 of Secret Lover suddenly cross the line for you? That feels inconsistent.
Also, Iâm specifically referring to Episode 3 of Secret LoverâI felt that moment was a clear example of mutual, nonverbal consent. Did you know consent can be nonverbal as well? Tao initiated the kiss, but Junxi didnât pull awayâhe leaned in and responded naturally. His body language clearly showed he was comfortable and wanted it too. It wasnât just one kissâthey even paused and then went back for a second kiss. If Tuo was uncomfortable, he wouldâve stopped right there, but instead, he leaned in for that second kiss, which pretty much shows he was enjoying it.
My point is: BL dramas are fiction, not real life. If we applied strict real-world rules to every BL, then half the genreâincluding your 10/10 Secret Relationshipsâwould be unwatchable.
Weâre already at Episode 17, and yet people are still leaving comments about the Episode 1 rape scene.
Yes, Chi Cheng ordered men to rape someone. It was disturbing. But letâs be very clearâthis is fiction. Itâs not real life. The opening scene of Revenged Love is disturbing on purpose because it sets up the emotional foundation of the series. Chi Chengâs actions and Wu Suo Weiâs suffering are the core of the entire plot. Itâs about obsession, pain, and ultimately redemption.
Are we going to cancel every show or movie that depicts rape, violence, or morally disturbing themes? If so, say goodbye to half of modern storytelling. Game of Thrones, The Handmaidâs Tale, 13 Reasons Why, Outlander, Law & Order: SVU,, Monster, Kill Bill, Gone Girl, The Girl with the Dragon Tattooâall explore horrific acts. Yet they are praised, awarded, and widely consumed.
Watching dark, controversial content does not mean you support it. No one watches a serial killer movie and thinks, âWow, I wanna do that.â
Fiction is where we confront uncomfortable truths. We explore trauma, redemption, and the darkest parts of humanityânot to glorify them, but to understand their impact. Thatâs the point of storytelling: it creates tension, challenges empathy, and holds up a mirror to societyâs ugliest sides. If we only watched shows with perfect morals and unflawed characters, weâd lose Breaking Bad, Dexter, Joker, The Godfather, Scarfaceâentire genres would disappear.
So NOâwatching Revenged Love does NOT mean we support RAPE or normalizing these kind of scenes.. It means we understand the difference between fiction and realityâsomething some people in these comments clearly canât grasp.
Millions watch Game of Thrones, Breaking Bad, or The Handmaidâs Taleâfull of murder, rape, assault, and worse. Do they all âsupportâ those acts? Of course not.
If you canât separate storytelling from real life, thatâs a you problem, not a Revenged Love problem.
I don't know why some fangirls are saying it's the best bl out there and even better than the untamed. Lets not…
Millions of people around the world love this series, and Iâm a bloke all the way from Australiaâso please stop stereotyping fans as âfangirls.â Many of my friends also love this show, and none of us are what youâre implying.
First, watching a rape scene does not mean we fantasize about it or think itâs okay. By that logic, if someone watches a murder mystery or John Wick, do they suddenly want to go out and kill people? Of course not. Dark scenes in films and dramas exist to tell a story, portray trauma, and make you feel somethingânot to normalize the act.
The opening scene of Revenged Love was designed to shock and set up the emotional weight of Chi Chengâs journeyâitâs part of the storytelling, not a celebration of assault.
And letâs be consistent: if weâre going to condemn every fictional series with morally gray or criminal actions, then weâd have to start with thousands of global shows and movies, like:
Outlander â includes multiple sexual assault plots, yet has millions of fans. Euphoria, Revenge, The Sopranos, Mad Men, Bridgerton â all feature dark or disturbing acts by their leads. Even Game of Thrones is filled with assault and murder, but audiences understand fiction is not reality. Are we going to flood all those pages with the same outrage? Or is this judgment only reserved for BL dramas?
Fiction is about storytelling. Characters can be flawed, cruel, or broken and still have purposeâwhether to horrify us, challenge us, or eventually redeem themselves. Characters are not real. Actors are not their roles. Viewers are capable of understanding the difference.
If dark themes arenât for you, thatâs perfectly fine. But donât accuse millions of fans of ânormalizingâ assault just because we enjoy a fictional drama with complex, imperfect characters.
Tuo needed a lesson about consent. Iâm glad he got the brakes put on him.
I totally get what youâre saying, and I respect that perspective, but I feel a bit differently because of the emotional context and how the scene plays out.
Yes, Tuo initiates most of the kissesâbut to me, his actions never truly cross the line into âforceful.â If you watch closely, Jun Xi doesnât show discomfort or fear. He hesitates, sureâlikely out of shock because this is his best friend making a moveâbut he doesnât push Tuo away, look upset, or pull back. Instead, after the surprise fades, he either leans in or allows the moment to happen. That is mutual, nonverbal consentâand itâs something we often see in romance storytelling across all cultures.
In real life and in BL dramas, passion doesnât always come with a verbal âCan I kiss you?â Sometimes, the chemistry, the eye contact, the stillness between two people is the permission.
Look at examples: -2gether the Series: Sarawat kissed Tine without asking first, and it became one of the most beloved BL moments ever.
-Semantic Error: Jae Young caught Sang Woo off guard with a kiss, and the audience swooned because it was charged with mutual tension, not fear.
-Revenged Love (Chinese BL, which youâre watching right now): Chi Cheng has initiated kisses and intimacy with Wu Suo Wei multiple times. Did he ever ask first? Noâbut the mutual signals were crystal clear.
I actually think this is why the scene works emotionally. It feels raw and real, showing that their relationship is shifting from friendship to something deeper. Tuo needed that moment to pause and learn to read the situation betterâbut the way Jun Xi responded shows this wasnât about ignoring consent. It was about silent understanding, the kind that makes romance so powerful.
đ Suntiny started off wild and hilarious with the whole body-swap chaos, but quickly became boring and plotless. MaxNat are amazing actors, but they deserved a much better script. 5/10
From busy city life to peaceful countryside vibes, this show is pure comfort.
Saint as Jom = total daddy energy đ«¶, and Yo is the cutest little brat.
A perfect slow burnâno kiss until ep 10, but that lotus pond kiss + buffalo finale? Worth every second!
Cozy, romantic, and heartwarming. Thursdays will never be the same!
From busy city life to peaceful countryside vibes, this show is pure comfort.
Saint as Jom = total daddy energy đ«¶, and Yo is the cutest little brat.
A perfect slow burnâno kiss until ep 10, but that lotus pond kiss + buffalo finale? Worth every second!
Cozy, romantic, and heartwarming. Fridays will never be the same!
Just because someone watches dark or controversial content doesnât mean they support it. No one watches a serial killer film or documentary and thinks, âWow, I want to do that.â
Fiction is meant to confront uncomfortable truths â to explore trauma, abuse, and the messy, complex sides of human nature. Itâs not about glorifying bad behaviour, itâs about understanding it, processing it, and reflecting on it. Thatâs what powerful storytelling does â it makes you feel, think, and question.
Honestly, so many comments here clearly donât get the difference between real life and fictional narratives.
That said, I still have a soft spot for Japanese BL, especially My Personal Weatherman and Tokyo in April Is. Those two really did a great job at balancing emotional depth with adult-level maturity.
But yeah⊠that restaurant scene? Painfully awkward. Letâs hope future episodes (and future series) give adult characters the confidence they should have.
Episode 1 had me cackling â Nut isnât even acting, heâs just being his slutty, diva self, like a queen born in the wrong era and thriving anyway! Iâm obsessed. This is exactly the kind of chaotic energy I need to light up my Friday nights for the next 3 months. Bring it on! đ đ·âš
But by that logic, are you planning to call out every single piece of media that includes rape, sexual assault, or morally disturbing themes? Because if so, you might need to say goodbye to half of modern storytelling.
Game of Thrones, The Handmaidâs Tale, 13 Reasons Why, Outlander, Law & Order: SVU, Monster, Kill Bill, Gone Girl, The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo â these are just a few examples of critically acclaimed, award-winning works that depict deeply uncomfortable content, often including violence and abuse.
Itâs not limited to Western shows either. A lot of BL dramas these days explore heavy, uncomfortable storylines. If youâre committed to calling all of them out, I look forward to seeing your thoughts on every one of those series too.
For the record, watching dark or controversial content does not mean someone supports it.
No one watches a serial killer documentary or film and thinks, âWow, I want to do that.â
Fiction is a space to confront uncomfortable truths â to explore trauma, abuse, and the complexities of human nature. Itâs not about glorification. Itâs about understanding, processing, and reflecting on those experiences. Thatâs what good storytelling often does â it challenges viewers, stirs emotions, and invites critical thought.
And lastly, please donât start your comment by shouting âGIRL!â at me. FYI, guys watch BL too. If you donât know my gender, maybe check my profile â or better yet, donât assume. Stereotyping people based on the genre they enjoy doesnât help your argument, and it certainly doesnât reflect well in a respectful discussion.
Twelve weeks of fake-dating-turned-real-love perfection. All four leads? Gorgeous. Episode 12 finally gave us two kissesâand the sound effects? Chefâs kiss. đ Worth the wait! Light, fun, non-toxicâpure Thursday night serotonin.
But Japan⊠we need to talk. Itâs 2025, and that âkissâ was literally 0.5 seconds. A blink. A peck. Iâve seen goldfish kisses last longer. đ
Please, give us a real kiss. I know you can do it. Donât make us wait until the finale for the actual payoff!
This series is available for FREE on YouTube. There is absolutely no excuse to promote piracy here. Itâs not just unacceptable â itâs downright disrespectful to the people who made the series and to fans who actually choose to support it the right way.
Sharing illegal streaming links isnât just unlawful. Itâs a slap in the face to the entire production team. Promoting piracy doesnât âhelpâ anyone â it actively destroys opportunities for the creators, actors, and staff who work tirelessly to give us the content we love.
If you truly care about BL and want to see more quality series in the future, then support them through legal channels. Thatâs how the industry grows â and frankly, itâs the bare minimum any real fan should do.
But hereâs the thingâare we going to cancel every show or movie that depicts rape, coercion, or morally disturbing behavior? If we did, say goodbye to half of modern storytelling.
Game of Thrones, The Handmaidâs Tale, 13 Reasons Why, Outlander, Law & Order: SVU, Monster, Kill Bill, Gone Girl, The Girl with the Dragon Tattooâall explore horrific acts. Yet they are praised, awarded, and widely consumed.
Watching dark, controversial content does not mean you support it.
No one watches a serial killer movie and thinks, âWow, I wanna do that.â
Fiction is where we confront uncomfortable truths.
We explore trauma, redemption, and the darkest parts of humanityânot to glorify them, but to understand their impact. Thatâs the entire point of storytelling: it creates tension, tests empathy, and holds up a mirror to societyâs ugliest sides.
Millions watch Game of Thrones, Breaking Bad, or The Handmaidâs Taleâfull of murder, rape, assault, and worse.
Do they all âsupportâ those acts? Of course not.
So noâwatching Secret Lover does not mean fans are okay with these early scenes.
It means we understand the difference between fiction and realityâsomething a lot of people in these comments seem to be struggling with.
From your explanation, you seem to accept the forced kissing in Secret Relationships because SuHyeon and JaeMinâs actions were framed as âabusiveâ and the characters didnât end up together. But in this series, because Tuo and Jun Xi are meant to become lovers, you see a similar moment as automatically âromanticised.â
So by your logic, are you saying:
If a character forcibly kisses someone but they donât end up lovers, itâs acceptable because itâs just âshock valueâ?
But if the same action happens and they do end up lovers, then it becomes problematic because itâs âromanticisedâ?
That feels like a double standard. Forced kisses in any dramaâregardless of the final couple outcomeâare written to serve a purpose in the story, whether itâs tension, conflict, or character growth. In Episode 2 here, Jun Xi was surprised and maybe uncomfortable for a moment, but he didnât push Tuo away or reject him later. By Episode 3, he clearly wasnât holding any resentment.
If we applied your standard consistently, then nearly every romance drama, BL or not, would be guilty of âromanticisingâ nonverbal consent:
TharnType â Tharn initiates without verbal permission.
2gether the Series â Sarawat leans in first every time.
Semantic Error â Jae Young kisses Sang Woo unexpectedly, but they end up lovers.
Even Western shows like Bridgerton or The Vampire Diaries rely on nonverbal cuesâare they all âromanticisingâ problematic behavior too?
To me, romanticised means the show frames harmful or abusive behavior as desirable without any consequence or emotional impact. In this series, Jun Xiâs initial shock is part of his journey, and the story doesnât erase thatâit evolves their dynamic naturally.
So Iâd really like to hear your definition, because right now it sounds like the deciding factor for you is simply whether the characters end up together or not.
Consent can be verbal or nonverbal. In Tuo and Jun Xiâs moment, the body language says it all: Jun Xi doesnât push him away, flinch, or look distressed. After the initial surprise, he leans in and allows the kiss to happenâthatâs a clear, silent âyes.â
If we applied a rule that consent only âcountsâ when itâs verbal, then nearly every beloved BL first kiss would be a problem:
Sarawat & Tine (2gether) â No verbal asking, just mutual tension.
Jae Young & Sang Woo (Semantic Error) â Surprise first kiss, but totally charged with consent through actions.
Chi Cheng & Wu Suo Wei (Revenged Love) â Many kisses start without words, yet the mutual signals are obvious.
To me, this scene wasnât about Tuo disregarding boundariesâit was about the messy, realistic way first kisses often happen between friends crossing into romance. He did need that pause to read the situation better, but the interaction stayed within the space of mutual, nonverbal consent.
You rated Secret Relationships a 10/10 (which I agree withâone of the best Korean BLs ever). But if weâre talking about consent and âjarringâ moments, letâs look at Episode 6:
SuHyeon pushed DaOn against the wall and kissed himâthere was zero verbal consent, and he even used SuHyeonâs safety against him.
Later in that same episode, JaeMin pushed DaOn onto the couch and attempted sexual assault. Then he stabbed himself to manipulate DaOn, leaving him traumatized.
By the final episode, JaeMin kidnapped DaOn, forced a marriage, and tried to kill him.
Thatâs a lot more toxic and non-consensual than anything in Secret Lover, yet you found Secret Relationships not âjarringâ and gave it a perfect score. So why does a brief bathroom scene in Episode 1 of Secret Lover suddenly cross the line for you? That feels inconsistent.
Also, Iâm specifically referring to Episode 3 of Secret LoverâI felt that moment was a clear example of mutual, nonverbal consent. Did you know consent can be nonverbal as well? Tao initiated the kiss, but Junxi didnât pull awayâhe leaned in and responded naturally. His body language clearly showed he was comfortable and wanted it too. It wasnât just one kissâthey even paused and then went back for a second kiss. If Tuo was uncomfortable, he wouldâve stopped right there, but instead, he leaned in for that second kiss, which pretty much shows he was enjoying it.
My point is: BL dramas are fiction, not real life. If we applied strict real-world rules to every BL, then half the genreâincluding your 10/10 Secret Relationshipsâwould be unwatchable.
Yes, Chi Cheng ordered men to rape someone. It was disturbing. But letâs be very clearâthis is fiction. Itâs not real life. The opening scene of Revenged Love is disturbing on purpose because it sets up the emotional foundation of the series. Chi Chengâs actions and Wu Suo Weiâs suffering are the core of the entire plot. Itâs about obsession, pain, and ultimately redemption.
Are we going to cancel every show or movie that depicts rape, violence, or morally disturbing themes? If so, say goodbye to half of modern storytelling.
Game of Thrones, The Handmaidâs Tale, 13 Reasons Why, Outlander, Law & Order: SVU,, Monster, Kill Bill, Gone Girl, The Girl with the Dragon Tattooâall explore horrific acts. Yet they are praised, awarded, and widely consumed.
Watching dark, controversial content does not mean you support it.
No one watches a serial killer movie and thinks, âWow, I wanna do that.â
Fiction is where we confront uncomfortable truths.
We explore trauma, redemption, and the darkest parts of humanityânot to glorify them, but to understand their impact. Thatâs the point of storytelling: it creates tension, challenges empathy, and holds up a mirror to societyâs ugliest sides.
If we only watched shows with perfect morals and unflawed characters, weâd lose Breaking Bad, Dexter, Joker, The Godfather, Scarfaceâentire genres would disappear.
So NOâwatching Revenged Love does NOT mean we support RAPE or normalizing these kind of scenes..
It means we understand the difference between fiction and realityâsomething some people in these comments clearly canât grasp.
Millions watch Game of Thrones, Breaking Bad, or The Handmaidâs Taleâfull of murder, rape, assault, and worse.
Do they all âsupportâ those acts? Of course not.
If you canât separate storytelling from real life, thatâs a you problem, not a Revenged Love problem.
First, watching a rape scene does not mean we fantasize about it or think itâs okay. By that logic, if someone watches a murder mystery or John Wick, do they suddenly want to go out and kill people? Of course not. Dark scenes in films and dramas exist to tell a story, portray trauma, and make you feel somethingânot to normalize the act.
The opening scene of Revenged Love was designed to shock and set up the emotional weight of Chi Chengâs journeyâitâs part of the storytelling, not a celebration of assault.
And letâs be consistent: if weâre going to condemn every fictional series with morally gray or criminal actions, then weâd have to start with thousands of global shows and movies, like:
Outlander â includes multiple sexual assault plots, yet has millions of fans.
Euphoria, Revenge, The Sopranos, Mad Men, Bridgerton â all feature dark or disturbing acts by their leads.
Even Game of Thrones is filled with assault and murder, but audiences understand fiction is not reality.
Are we going to flood all those pages with the same outrage? Or is this judgment only reserved for BL dramas?
Fiction is about storytelling. Characters can be flawed, cruel, or broken and still have purposeâwhether to horrify us, challenge us, or eventually redeem themselves. Characters are not real. Actors are not their roles. Viewers are capable of understanding the difference.
If dark themes arenât for you, thatâs perfectly fine. But donât accuse millions of fans of ânormalizingâ assault just because we enjoy a fictional drama with complex, imperfect characters.
Yes, Tuo initiates most of the kissesâbut to me, his actions never truly cross the line into âforceful.â If you watch closely, Jun Xi doesnât show discomfort or fear. He hesitates, sureâlikely out of shock because this is his best friend making a moveâbut he doesnât push Tuo away, look upset, or pull back. Instead, after the surprise fades, he either leans in or allows the moment to happen. That is mutual, nonverbal consentâand itâs something we often see in romance storytelling across all cultures.
In real life and in BL dramas, passion doesnât always come with a verbal âCan I kiss you?â Sometimes, the chemistry, the eye contact, the stillness between two people is the permission.
Look at examples:
-2gether the Series: Sarawat kissed Tine without asking first, and it became one of the most beloved BL moments ever.
-Semantic Error: Jae Young caught Sang Woo off guard with a kiss, and the audience swooned because it was charged with mutual tension, not fear.
-Revenged Love (Chinese BL, which youâre watching right now): Chi Cheng has initiated kisses and intimacy with Wu Suo Wei multiple times. Did he ever ask first? Noâbut the mutual signals were crystal clear.
I actually think this is why the scene works emotionally. It feels raw and real, showing that their relationship is shifting from friendship to something deeper. Tuo needed that moment to pause and learn to read the situation betterâbut the way Jun Xi responded shows this wasnât about ignoring consent. It was about silent understanding, the kind that makes romance so powerful.