10joyboy

Hi, sorry for the long paragraph ,my english is bad, so I can’t say what I need without writing too much. And it’s not really important to read all of it. As I mentioned below, I just enjoy these discussions about dramas and it's a way to learn how to write English. 🙂

drama you mentioned at start is not the same, because we talking about romcom, not other genre.

and also another point you miss is that fl should be a virgin, so ml will have exes while fl not to be equal to what I said, and you mention some dramas where fl not just have exes also, but she even cheating on the ml and she don't do anything. another dislike plot for me in American shows mostly, but they use it in kdrama like My Mister. his wife cheating more than a year and when he knows he don't do anything, even at the end it's not even shown if he divorce her or still cry about her cheating like a loser. What man accept to know his wife with his boss and he act like he don't know?!!! And just wait till she discover that he knows so he cry about it!!

Beyond Bar drama another loser ml that even after divorce and she left him like that, he still love her and can't move on, while she get pregnant from his friend and throw it on his facew, he can't wash that humiliation with all soape she make for him 😅 he really make me frustrated how he act sad and weak in front of both of them and can't win an argument the irony he's a big lawyerj🙃

(again it's not like what I'm talking about far, there not even romance between leads )
and couple of scenes of fl with that client who touch her hair when he see her while she stand without doing anything, I was like slap the loser hands to never think again to put his hands on you,but no she just let him do what he like 😂

without talking about other dramas because it's far from what I'm talking about. again what I'm talking about is romcom mls most of the time virgin, fl have an ex, and two men at least love her and chasing after her. I watch many kdramas for nearly a decade now but I can't remember many kdramas have this setting reversed .

and you're more fast to call people opinions sexist 😂, to be honest I don't care even if I'm, but my comment is far from it, and I really don't take this as seriously, it's just to enjoy the drama in this app because I can't enjoy it by watching with all what I said 😅😂 and to learn how to writee, that obviously I'm bad at it becyyou don't understand me 🙃🙃🙃.

and it's only saying what they show us , so blame writers for it, and I see you do in your comments to be fair.

and I get that our difference because we see the dynamic of romance differently.
and we have many same favorite kdrama like Flower of Evil (one of rare fla in kdrama that love ml so much and do things for him not just take it for granted ).

and couple of other dramas on your list is my favorite, and what they have in common is that fls also love ml as much or more than he do, and that's what I like to watch, not simps fighting for fl by making themselves silly and be on her call.

I can't understand how some want traditional men while they are not traditional, and romcom kdrama mls most of the time are healing 💊 for fls like love scout you mentioned ( it was an oky romance for me)

Falling for love: ml past is for comedy, and again fl also have exes, one of them is sml that still also like her, and the story about her with both of them, not like ml. one of his exes throwing herself on ml also, and others just as I said for comedy, no story, no deep feelings not like fl with sml without even see their past you can feel there something more deep and serious, she still helping him and think twice before she push him when he hugs her ... no comparison at all without talking about the dynamic between ml and fl because we talked about it other day and we agree to disagree 🙂

good for her but still, like you said, she fell for him because he saved her and because he's an outstanding man and she fall for him more easier than when she fall for ml , and that's okay, but not for me. If I can guess, if he didn't have any woman he loved, he would also regret rejecting her 🙂, like many other cdrama plots.
And I said fl falls easy in love, not women in general, and in cdrama mls have the Guinness records of how fast they fall for fl some even fall for fls while still children some fall first second some first sight and not shallow love but the great unconditional love from first sight for years while fl don't even know he's existing 😅😂

and I'm talking only about what you said about her interactions with the one she thinks saved her and ml .

and I can't think of any other way to show her better and more a great woman than being an independent and strong businesswoman in an era that doesn't allow women to be free or have their own decisions about their lives, and from synopsis she will even make ml. first minister and show she's more formidable that heran is depending on her while she independent from him 😅 it's another way to show fl is great like a recent cdrama when fl did everything while ml just fight other men to be her husband 😅😂.

But still, like I said, it's about a love triangle, even if it's only from one side, I read sml is toxic and abusive, and I bet she doesn't hate him for that and still thinks he's her friend,and she's sorry for him, and I also get that there is a third ml that will fall for her. This cliché in recent cdramas about reverse harems, I don't like. I like equality in the relationship between ml and fl and maturity, but I didn't find any cdrama with this plot. Mostly ml falls first and does more and has to fight with sml and suffer because of her lack of boundaries with other men and jealousy.
If you watch Road Home, it has a great couple, especially fl, who shows her love by fighting for ml, not thinking her independence and business are more important or letting only ml do more in the relationship while she has other stuff to accomplish.
Sorry for the rant and waste your time, by

thank you , it's not for me I hate this kind of plot about two or three men fall for fl , and it will be worse if she don't put boundaries with sml and other one, and I read she will marry ml so is more bad to still have men around her while she's married. thank you have a good day

thank you so it's not for me I hate love triangle and stupid sml that wait till ml show up to take a step, and fl fall for men easy!? and move on more easier😂😅

thank you and have a good day

thanks for elaborating, but I read above she's like other fls about sml she don't put boundaries with him and can't see he's like her romantically and she forgive him and even get sad because of him or something like this!!!? is it true or I misunderstood what they say!? and is there the childish ml jealousy scenes because of fl close to sml!? thank you

so this cdrama another cliché love triangle that fl don't know sml love her and she still don't put boundaries with him and ml. jealous watching!? why they always need this stupid cliché about toxic sml and fl has to be his friend that forgive him even if he did whatever he like!? thank you

is there a love triangle in this drama!? is fl like someone else or she only fall for ml!? thank you

in kdrama the easiest way to solve a problem between couple is to break up and wait one year or two and get back it's just two years 😅😂😂😂 stupidity at best

Both are bad. With how many clichés there are in this drama, they can't finish a drama without a misunderstanding and a stupid breakup cliché for stupid reasons.

what a kdrama without a stupid break up and stupid love triangle and fl have an ex while ml single from birth 😅😂😂

you will see her with sml and how she was deeply loved him and it will go till the end because sml is a main lead also and she will help him even so he will regret losing her even more so je will try to win her more 🙂 this year kdrama is about stupid love triangle cliché unfortunately, like the person said above it would have been more good without it, and see also her fall deeply as ml but it's a kdrama so only ml love deeply while fl still struggle to move on from her bad past and afraid to give another chance for herself to love again.

and how they show fl have a good ex or another option as CEO love her also 😅😂, and to make ml jealous and do more to win her while she reject him because of her past relationship and her work but deeply it's because of her past with sml or whomever hurt her. I can't watch it because of love triangle, and again it's as usual two men fight to win fl while she don't do much

noble idiocy cliché is coming just wait one episode or two after they start dating you see noble idiocy cliché as a reason to break up 😅😂

I agree with you in most of what you said, but if you watch the preview of ep 7, we see the two men making more effort to win the FL, ml by helping her and sml by acting cool and again pull her towards him and sit with her and she just look like she's in love , and again I bet they gave a past relationships to the ML just to avoid the cliché being virgin, because he don't even act as someone has that many experience, sml is more cool than him and act mature, but I think they want to give fl a boy that make her laugh by making himself a joke she deserve someone like that she tried the mature boss sml , and she also a boss so their life will be bland😅😂.

and his past didn't give any depth to the story or anything, just some stupid stuff that shows he's not mature enough to. have boundaries , but the FL, her eyes , and her reactions to the SML say more than just "an ex" or "he's her boss." she still have unresolved things with him.

And long story short, it's like you said at first: they're selling this to women, so they make the ML a simp and the SML love her so much, and she's cool and open-minded and nearly perfect in everything she does, and the ML worships her without her doing anything to make him love her except being herself, cold and bossy towards him 😅.

so we agree on this to a degree, but I can't even watch dramas anymore because of love triangles, especially this year. It's always about love triangles in every drama, and this one also has one.
This is what I meant about the double standard: even when they give the ML experience instead of making him just another virgin, they make him not attached to his past, unlike the FL now with the SML. And the ML, as always, has to fight the SML for the FL.
We also see that the FL is not that strong in front of the SML like she is with the ML. That's what I mean in my post also. He hugs her, and she just looks at him. I bet if it was the ML and he did it while she was angry at him, she would slap him, not get mesmerized for a second when sml hug her twice and pull her towards him and touch her face with care, as she also wants it, but remember he's not her man anymore then she push him 😅.

(Another bad aspect in K-dramas is that FLs slapping MLs is considered okay and normal for most people watching 😒

1 , yes gpt didn't polished it very good but it's still okay. my English is bad sorry.


I talked about the same you maybe enjoy watching fl have ml and sml chasing after her 🙂 and some even have sml syndrome) that's what I meant by saying I understand people like this, because I like also fl and sfl love ml and he don't react to it at first ,

don't work yourself about it, have a good night

he's when he start to fall for her, and when he saw her naked also, he didn't act like a man with experience should act 🙂 and she's more manly in this regard than him if you mean what I'm saying

yeah but later when he start to fall for her he act like any normal ml shy and afraid of her and don't act as they show at start as a play boy 🙃🙂 , and he's always the one shocked and don't act like a man with experience in that regard , maybe just me,

Is this another drama like She Would Never Know but with comedy!? So many scenes are like it, even the romantic plot, except she doesn't date the SML while the ML knows 🙂 I give up waiting for an ML on the FL's level. Always, MLs are just the prize for the FL after her traumatic past, there to help her, while acting like they've never been with other women, always shy in front of her after they fall for her. Meanwhile, she still thinks about her past and just acts like an open-minded person and falls for him slowly.
Always, MLs fall in love in one second, while FLs need half or more of the drama to fall for him, just to break up with him in the next episode. Why can't they write a good romance without this stupid cliché and stop giving the FL a bad past experience while the ML is, most of the time, single and acts like a virgin!?