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unfortunately, i like romance, so i let my frustrations out about these c-drama tropes. they write mls as simps with no personality ,their only role is to live for loving the fl and running after her all the time, and have "EQ" understanding her because she likes another man( for more than half of the drama.)
And they write ml becomes a joke because of jealousy, since she doesn’t care "indirectly" about his feelings. she doesn’t set boundaries with her crush, and he’s still close to her. she keeps looking at him with loving eyes, and the ml, like a simp, tolerates all of that. then some people say, “he’s mature” or “he has high EQ.”
this is what you get when women define what a man is: a man with no self-respect or standards is called a “green flag ” and praised for his EQ, because he chasing and loving a woman who loves another man and hasn’t even moved on from him after he treated her badly and made her look like a loser.
meanwhile, with the ml, she plays hard to get and makes him work for her. because she chased the sml before, now she wants to feel how it is to be chased , rejecting him while he still wants her, just like she did with the sml.
and i bet she’ll still be friends with the sml at the end and feel sorry for him , the ml will have no say in it, and he’ll also be forced to be kind of friends with him. he’ll end up making a joke of himself, feeling insecure and jealous whenever he sees her laughing with the sml, classic cliché scenes in c-dramas like this.

Another C-drama with the same plot: the FL has an ex or a crush, so they make him bad at first and the ML a green forest.” Then the SML suddenly changes for the better and gets more screen time after because of jealousy , and that she still likes him not the ml, so he has no boundaries with the FL, and she doesn’t have any either , this they do it to make ml jealous and fight to please her more , it's more than half of drama and she still likes the one who hurt her , and still testing the one who confess to her .also sml will give him a sad backstory and excuses for why he treated her badly, so she feels sorry for him, gives him time to confess, and she says, “Let’s be friends.”I’ll bet anyone this is exactly what will happen. The ML will also end up kind of friends with him. In the end, the FL is the winner: she has a simp as her boyfriend and her first-love crush, in the friend zone, both doing everything to make her happy, while their entire lives revolve around her and her happiness, lol , who's more lucky than her and still can see her first love doing stuff and regretting that he didn't win her while she get with a simp that fall for her first sight and love her more than himself.



don't come to me I get frustrated how they always make ml simps and weak without a backbone and fl doing more effort for her first love "sml", than ml and she loves him more even after all he did she still loves him for half of the drama and more, and ml like a simp running after her and accept her testing while she still didn't move on from her crush!!! so he's the rebound to make her get her self respect back after running after someone rejected her , so they write ml doing more than her for her to accept him .

he's not in his right mind so a good friend will do it for him so that selfish of his love of his life think about him for once not only about her pleasure and happiness while him sacrifice for her his best years his career, and his happeniss in other things jist to be around her saving her from herself and her ex husband and family,

and she still only think about herself and when she thinks about him she will break up with him 🤣😅😅😅🤡,

I agree with you, just think about it: while she was married, he was faithful to her and never even thought about another woman, lol. And when he wants to seduce her (they do this scene to make ml look like a joke and he's a good comedy material ), he can’t, because he’s that innocent and has a virgin mindset. Meanwhile, she doesn’t even think about him sexual and laughs at his weakness , how he gets turned on easily while she doesn’t. Logically, one has experience, and the other is a simp virgin whose only experience was with her maybe a decade ago, lol, and she can control herself about anything of it's about him , like break up with him leave him g t back with him and make him help her and other stuff everything she can make him do it without even ordering him 😅, like you said if she leaves him third time he will still wait her .

it's a Cdrama so never expect sml to stop at the beginning he will just start running after her and make ml jealous and misunderstanding the situation

what a great thing to say lol so sml have more advantage to get her than that simp ml who chasing her knowing she likes sml even after all he did to her she still didn't move on from liking him 😅🤣😅 Cdrama never stopped to amazed me with writing mls the lowest a man can be just because he love the fl .

what the f !? she didn't still move from sml even after the confess!? so another cucumber ml not just a simp

it's a Cdrama so don't expect ml to have other relationships or exs most of the dramas lol , and most of dramas have fl with exs and have a crush on sml or other character is the normal, and ml fall first and harder is the normal also, and fl rejecting ml first confession is also a normal thing in this kind of plot with fl having another crush or ex

but she's , she likes him still, and she accept ml pursuing her 😅🤣🤣🤣🤣. if he changes for good , she will still think she has a chance with him (sml), but he makes it worse everytime he speaks, but he's more advantage to get her than the simp ml 😅 . but I guess it's too late now , it's half of the drama and she just decided to move on from him, after all the worst thing he did , it's gives how much she loved him , like she will never love ml like that, they say first love is the real love 🤣😅😅

And from what you’re saying, it feels like you want men to never ask for anything from their partners , just worship women, accept everything, tolerate everything , or they’re labeled incels and it's the toxic feminists saying , men should never ask what a woman brings to the table. He should bring the table and everything on it, or he’s a weak incel man who wants “princess treatment” 😅🤡🤡

According to this logic, he should give everything, never ask for anything in return, and just be a good toy to please his woman whenever she wants. That’s exactly what I understand from your words: if a man asks what a woman brings to the table, he’s an incel and doesn’t even deserve her presence.!!

And for your first point: even when FLs are weak and insecure, they still get character development , that’s what the plot is about. But MLs? They never have self-respect or backbone ,they just become simps, with no role other than falling for the FL unconditionally, That’s it and fight with her ex for her . There’s no comparison between FL insecurities and MLs being simps for them.
And you feminists always talk about equality, but when it comes to men’s dignity and his equal rights in the relationship and he should also receive what he gives , suddenly it’s “incel” if a man asks for it 😅. This is exactly why I’m talking about this , because many feminist act like this is how men should be, as if they’re second-class citizens that worship them

I’d be more than happy if I’m wrong and he doesn’t turn into just another simp whose whole life revolves around loving the FL, making endless efforts to please her, tolerating everything, cooking and cleaning for her , while she only focuses on her work and her new friends, and is even friends with her first love/crush (the SML), like in so many other C-dramas. Because honestly, that would make it a good drama to watch, especially after I stopped watching C-dramas due to how they degrade MLs into servants and simps with no dignity or backbone.

I disagree with you about the idea that chasing her is what makes him a man. She doesn’t even know he has feelings for her, so what he’s doing is using friendship to make her fall for him, how is that right? A man, if he likes a woman, should tell her directly and ask her out on a date, not pretend to be her friend while secretly looking for chances to make her fall for him.( this tactics he's using only okay if it's a rich handsome men doing it ,for fans , 😅)
And if he doesn’t tell her anything , even if she eventually starts to like him , she’ll assume he doesn’t like her romantically, especially because of her past experience with her first love. So she won’t take the first step or say anything either. That’s how time gets wasted, misunderstandings start again, and with the SML still around, another misunderstanding between them is almost guaranteed. I honestly expect this to happen.

You’re saying she still hasn’t moved on or resolved her feelings for the SML, and the ML is chasing her. So what is that called if not simping? Falling even harder for someone who still likes another man and knowing that?
Now he has to make even more effort to help her forget the SML, then make her fall for him, while waiting for her to choose him.
At least from this drama’s trailer, I can see that she also falls for him strongly , not like other modern C-dramas where the FL was dating or liking the SML first. You can clearly feel that they didn’t love the ML the way they loved their exes, like : As Beautiful as You drama, and many other C-dramas

she loves sml and she still didn't move even if she pretend she didn't want him anymore because she get a little of dignity,
ml fall for her more harder even know that fact , so what is wrong from what I'm saying!? and you above saying you don't like the fact that she still can't move on from sml !?

what a great woman to fall for 😅😂😅😅🤡 another simp ml I guess falling for a woman that running after a man that don't even respect her and she drooling for .

hi , your suggestion has been accepted by the director lol

hi your suggestion has been accepted by the director lol

You mentioned it yourself: it’s always the ML who does all of that for the FL, like in the C-drama you talked about. But FLs almost never do the same for MLs. That’s the job of simps. FLs are always “independent and strong,” and they don’t stop their lives for love or try to win back a simp, lol.
He’s the one at fault anyway who told him he could forget her? It’s his loss 😅😂😂😂😂😂. She has more important things to focus on, like her job and being successful. Not a simp who will just run back to her when he remembers her later. Honestly, it’s even better that he forgets her so she can focus on her work 😅😂.
But if it’s the FL who forgets the ML, then the ML has to fight reality, fight her, fight everyone until she remembers him. His whole life revolves around her, and he’s always crying for her.
And this is exactly what happened in the K-drama Queen of Tears too. She treated him like he killed her family, believed the SML easily, and the ML even after going to prison and everything he suffered because of her _ indirectly_ , still kept fighting until she finally started to remember him.
In the end, this is the role reserved for simps who can’t live without FLs.

Don’t let me start, lol. I give up trying to change or even discuss things with this kind of fans who say, “this drama is the best this year” 🤡.
I guessed this drama would be like this from just a couple of episodes in. I even wrote a comment about which tropes they still hadn’t used yet, and some users listed a few. The director must have listened to our “suggestions” because he ended up using every trope in the book, even amnesia, lol.
I honestly just feel sorry for those who wasted their time thinking this would be different or bring something new. In the end, it’s just different actors with the same old tropes… and not even a satisfying happy ending to make them forget all the frustration and melodrama 😅😂.

ok , so she was kissing ml , that's good, yes I watch it when she did that, and said she has nothing to do with him ,

it's shows that she also fall harder for ml not like recent Cdrama fls that don't love mls the same level as mls loves them . thank you I appreciate it