10joyboy

Yes, I get you. They try to show how much he loves her, but they end up making it cringe and unrealistic. (Unfortunately, even in real life, there are some crazy people who love like that.)

Yes, that’s the word I meant "emasculating men" 😔. I see this more often in C-dramas and Turkish series, with K-dramas coming third. It is what it is the market wants that, so they provide it.

Yes, you're right. Unfortunately, it drive you crazy when you think about how the brain remembers things through smells and sounds. So imagine what it’s like with touches!! a victim of rape who just wants to be intimate with her husband like any other woman, but when she tries, she gets the worst flashbacks. She can only hide it, or else she’ll never be able to have anything close to a normal life and will have to live with it.
I really feel sorry for them, and I can’t even watch it in shows. Even in shows that don’t actually show the scenes, I still skip the parts that lead to it. 😔

About your first point 😅🥲, it was just a joke ! I wasn’t making assumptions about you, 🙃. I was just saying it’s normal in C-dramas to have that .

2) and I agree with you, for myself i don't watch majority of recent Cdramas because I don't like how they write mls in love

3) Yes, but it’s frustrating to watch even when it’s not about making him worship her because unfortunately, in most romances, they always make the male leads the ones doing everything in the relationship. (There are exceptions to this rule, like Hidden Love, Princess and Lighter, and a few other dramas.)

4) I just don’t remember the names of many C-dramas where the MLs think like that, but I’ll search for them and let you know. I’ve stopped watching C-dramas recently because of the imbalance in relationships between the leads mostly the MLs love unconditionally, while you can feel that the FLs just like them because they love them so much.

You’re welcome! Have a good day.

one of the he most horrible crimes, in my opinion (as a man), is rape. I really don’t know how a victim can move on from it or how her husband could, either. I honestly can’t even imagine how I would respond if it happened to someone I know. For sure, the criminal wouldn’t be alive to tell the story that’s the least I can say. But emotionally, I can’t think of any way to erase that fact from the victim’s or the husband’s mind, or to keep their lives from becoming a living hell because of it. I know I wouldn’t have the ability to do that. I also don’t watch any dramas or movies about it, because I can’t stand how lightly they treat the criminals or those who help cover up the crime like people who stop the victim from speaking out or protect the rapist. At the very least, all of them should go to prison, and the criminal himself should be sentenced to life in prison give him Three years in prison and go out and do it again or even take revenge on the victim, and this happened in many countries (since, by law, they can’t give him the death penalty ) And I also think that women who lie about being raped just to get money or ruin a man’s life should go to prison for that. They completely destroy someone’s life with their false allegations and still get away with it, acting like they didn’t do anything wrong and unfortunately, they usually don’t face any real consequences.

I don’t think you’ve watched many C-dramas or K-dramas! , lol, because 90% of the ml and even some sml are like that they do anything for FLs and tolerate everything the FL does. Even if she breaks up with him multiple times, he still chases her, or he’ll stay single and celibate for years while she’s maybe dating and doing other things. And when she comes back, he’ll still chase her, lol. So him doing this is normal by C-drama standards, and the majority of viewers like it and call mls like him a green forest man 😅🥲

I completely agree with you, and that’s exactly what I’m saying. I stopped watching C-dramas and K-dramas because the male lead always does everything in the relationship. And that cliché about the second female lead always being evil is another frustrating one. They make the second male lead more perfect than the main lead, but the second female lead is always portrayed as evil 😅😅.

I also like slice-of-life dramas more, but I don’t enjoy the melodramatic ones they’re everything except romance. It’s always that kind of “romance” where one has to sacrifice something for love. For example, I disliked My Liberation Notes because they were always so distant physically, mostly just talking, and there was a time skip too. If I remember correctly, there were only a couple of hugs (or even less) in the whole drama 😒. And even after the time skip, they didn’t hug or kiss they acted like they’d just met for the first time again. She was always shy, and he was way too calm 🥶🥶🥶🥶.

I watched Because This Is My First Life and liked it, but I really disliked the ending that unnecessary breakup and time skip before getting back together. It was such a useless cliché that only wasted time. It would’ve been so much better if they had just shown the couple growing stronger together. (I also disliked the second male lead 😒 even in this drama they give fl two good men to chose between 😅🥲.)

I didn’t watch Summer Strike.

Some of my favorite dramas are Road Home (C-drama), Meet Yourself, Forever and Ever (C-drama), and One Spring Night (K-drama) I like calm slice-of-life stories with a good plot, few silly clichés, and where both the male and female leads put equal effort into the relationship.

sorry for the paragraph rants 😅😂 I forget myself when I write about this double standard in Cdrama and kdrama 😅😅😶‍🌫️

Mistreated!? Where!?
In Western shows!? I bet they have more women cheaters than men in American shows (and there are even some shows where both cheat, like the disgusting Grey’s Anatomy).
And I know more men forgive cheating wives than the opposite in Western shows.

In Asian dramas (Korean and Chinese), yes, you’re right FLs are not mistreated, but instead they reverse it and make men look like support characters to make women happy in those shows (what the majority of viewers call “green forest MLs”). But they never call FLs that, because they don’t write them the same way they write MLs and that’s my problem , why only man has to be like that ?.

It’s not what you understood from my joke about bringing masculism.
And masculism is not misogyny that’s like saying feminism is men-hating!

If you read what I wrote at the end (and what I always say), it’s that I want equality in relationships not this pattern where MLs always fall first and unconditionally, sacrifice everything for FLs, and are often portrayed as virgins while FLs have trauma or exes and need the ML to be their happy pill and tolerate them to get healed .

In K-dramas and C-dramas, especially rom-coms, they make comedy by turning men into silly characters getting hit, falling down, acting jealous and insecure about whether the FL likes them or the sml so they end up acting stupid in front of the SML.
And let’s not even talk about FLs slapping MLs like it’s the best solution, or stabbing them in ancient C-dramas 😂🥲.

I just don’t like how they write men in dramas.
I feel they’re not equal to FLs in any way, unfortunately they only win fls on being more green forest than them 🥲😒
All I want is equality between them where both change because of love, both act silly, both get jealous, both sacrifice and fight for each other, and both fall unconditionally in love not just the MLs.

have a good night

I'm waiting for the day they reverse this trope when they make the male lead has an ex, and both the female lead and the second female lead fight for him, while he’s focused on more important things like his dream or something 😅😂. Then he takes revenge on his ex by dating the sweet fl , who cooks for him, takes care of him, and loves him unconditionally 😅😅. Later, he breaks up with her for her good or because the contract marriage get exposed , but she still chases after him, and he has a close friendship with the second female lead that makes the first one jealous. In the end, they get back together and have a happy ending 😅😂

this will happen when the feminism end and start the masculinism movement 😂😂😂😂 because in kdrama and Asian dramas in general ( in rom-com shows) are just there to be in love with fl and chase after her even when she break his heart many times and disrespect him 😂😅😅.

I know this will never happen, because TV shows and dramas—especially romance—are mostly watched by women. So they always use the same plots and stories that make female leads look better than male leads, acting like they’re the prize men have to fight for.

Sorry for the rant, I just needed to let out my opinion about this.

It was like this in the past too, when they made male leads abusive or red flags, and female leads would still fall for them and suffer. They just don’t know how to make truly equal romance dramas (there are a few exceptions, but not enough)

And that’s why they don’t need to make their brains work to find good plots about rom-com, because the majority , like you, love these same tropes and don’t want any new good plots. So why would they ever change what makes them money? They just need to have good actors do the same thing, and that’s it no creativity needed, and it still sells. 😂😅

I dropped it because of that, especially when she was imagining the second male lead while sitting with the male lead — that was enough for me. She was always cursing him and being disrespectful toward him just because she thought the second male lead was the perfect man, and even when the male lead didn’t do anything wrong, she still saw him as evil. and I don't know how he fall for her and she's crushing on his friend

Thank you for answering. I dropped it. I watched 4 episodes, but I didn’t like how she was rude to him and always compared him to her crush. That scene when she was imagining her crush made me drop the drama (I hate something called a love triangle , specially when it's the friend or brother of the ml 😅)

I'm watching episode 4 right now, and I don’t understand how the ML can like the FL when she keeps disrespecting him, cursing him, and comparing him to her crush all the time. How could he still like her after knowing that she likes his friend? And that scene where she imagines her crush while looking at the ML is just disgusting , it’s hard to believe he’ll fall for her later and not remember that she did that. I know it might seem like I’m making a big deal out of it to some people, but honestly, from a man’s perspective, it’s really disrespectful and humiliating to like someone who has feelings for someone else especially when that someone is your friend and she clearly thinks so highly of him.

I regret I downloaded all the episodes thinking this will be any different from other jdrama about this stupid love triangle cliche especially when it's an 8 episode drama.

about the 7 point, I read that she had a crush on the sml for more than half of the drama and I watch some clips of ml get jealous of her sitting with someone I guess he was sml !? is that not love triangle!? thanks ( I dislike love triangle cliche the most😅🙂)

so they didn't get together till the end !? like most of the short jdrama !? thanks

is they have many scenes with each other like she has with m!? l and is there jealousy scenes only for ml or also fl get jealous !? thank you

is she's providing for him !? and he take her money and not working!?

so I guess in the drama they don't have any intimate scenes because of their conditions specially ml !? thank you

is the love triangle lite or they make fl like the other guy till the end and chose ml !? thank you

unfortunately he's the one with no backbone

it's not about you getting hurt or not it's about me , make my self this low for something this useless, that's it , have a good day