I think the slap scene did not make the ml look like a simp at all, and everyone, even the ml, understood why…
thank you, maybe you're right about now to force myself, but I don't think I be surprised by any Cdramas writers like this that makes fl perfect and ml change because he fall in love and she make him look stupid because she's too much smarter like sun tzu š¤š
That isn't the case for this drama. You can justify the characters according to their own situations. No one is…
Iāll watch it and show you the evidence of how their love isnāt equal ā how he changed for her, but she never did. I bet itās not like you said, but to me, the male lead loves her more than she loves him. His love is unconditional, but her unconditional love is only for her family. When it comes to him, if it's a choice between him and her family, sheāll always sacrifice him. Maybe Iām wrong to think this drama is like most C-dramas, with the same repetitive plot. I really hope Iām wrong ā because I stopped watching C-dramas since the male leads always act like simps with no dignity, chasing after female leads who have more important things to do than love them back the same way
I get that I talked without watch it is weird but trust me I read a lot about it and I was following comments here about it also because I like to read about dramas more than watch it šš š¤ sorry for bothering you and for long comments, have a good night
That isn't the case for this drama. You can justify the characters according to their own situations. No one is…
I just watch her coward grandfather advise for her if she make ml captivated she has to benefits from it and take more to her caln lol what a 𤔠he even after all this tstill wants to benefits from ml's family lol I get how he didn't help his friend now he's only see his family even if he will sacrifice others for it š and they make it like he's a hero and a good person a d she admire him !? but when ml want what benefits his family he's evil and wrong to take revenge š
That isn't the case for this drama. You can justify the characters according to their own situations. No one is…
I think she accepted taking on her grandfatherās debt with a smile, so for her to act like she didnāt do anything wrong is hypocritical. What the ML did is nothing compared to what her grandfather did. And a big thing people forget is that his father, grandfather, and brother died because of her āheroā grandfatherās betrayal! So what did she expect him to do? Welcome her with open arms and say, āI appreciate you taking on your grandfatherās debtāletās be a happy husband and wifeā?
She gets upset at him for what he didāso what is he supposed to feel about her and her family, considering the betrayal and the deaths that resulted from it? Honestly, I still donāt understand how he even forgave them and fell in love with her š . If I were in his place, sorry, I wouldāve taken their land and made them pay for what they didāand then letās see if she would still fall in love with me!
But noāthey made him fall for her despite everything her family did. He even broke the promise he made to his own family just because he loved herāand not just any kind of love, but an unconditional one. He didnāt even consider the possibility that she might take advantage of that love (which she didāby not trusting him after everything he did for her and by hiding secrets from him). And again, he ends up understanding her and even apologizes like heās the one who did something wrong for feeling hurt that she didnāt trust him š¤£š . imagine if it's ml family who betrayed her family I bet all drama he will apologizing and she act cold towards him. making him suffer and take revenge and she will not stop till nearly killed him for what his family did , and still he has to win her a and he will be also the first to fall and harder and has to fight with other smls to win her , this is Cdramas writing style always fls right and perfect and mls has to change for them š
I think the slap scene did not make the ml look like a simp at all, and everyone, even the ml, understood why…
If you read my comments, I said I don't like abuse scenes from either side. I commented on her slap because I read about it and watched the scene before itāwhen she chose him over the man she was liking and was going to marry. But I read in the comments that she slapped him after running to him, and I dislike how everyone in the comments was laughing at him getting slapped. That made me dislike the scene even more, so I don't want to watch itāand that's it.
I also asked for the timestamp, but no one has mentioned it to me yet. š¤
And him grabbing her by the neck is not okay either. From watching many C-dramas, I realized that FLs often slap MLs and MLs choke them. But you'll never see a scene where a ML slaps a FL and doesn't have to apologizeāor where the FL doesn't take revenge. Yet choking the FL is treated like it's no big deal.
And I think youāve watched many C-dramas too, so you know: MLs always love unconditionally, but FLs always seem to love other things more than the ML. They love the MLs with their minds, not just their heartsāunlike how MLs love.
šš®āšØ Sorry for the long comment, itās just a topic that really frustrates me. And itās because of all thisāand how most men characters of the dramas fall for FLs like they've never seen another womanāthat I stopped watching C-dramas. I wanted to watch this one, Iāll force myself, and maybe Iāll finally see a FL who loves the ML the way he loves herāand actually puts in effort for him, not just because it benefits her to have a good day
I think the slap scene did not make the ml look like a simp at all, and everyone, even the ml, understood why…
if you remember time she did it because I'm watching first episode and I don't want to hate fl if I watch that scene ( even if I know she did it but at least not to see it because I know I drop it even more because how he take the slap and think oh I deserve it š¤£š 𤣠who's this normal man will think like that!? and is if someone do a mistake they should slap him I bet she did many things she deserves a slap fir but why they don't include it!? or it's only mls allowed to get slapped š¤£š š¤£. than you and sorry for rants
I think the slap scene did not make the ml look like a simp at all, and everyone, even the ml, understood why…
Thank you. I didnāt mean it like that, but it just makes him look weakānot like how a general should act, especially when he believes sheās his enemy. And for me, thereās nothing that justifies her slapping him in front of all his men after using him to escape from the other guy. She slapped him, and afterward, she reacted in a funny way just so they wouldnāt keep the atmosphere seriousābut that doesnāt change what happened. I donāt find abuse funny from either side. Iāve never seen a male lead slap the female lead, and she just stays silent, thinks she deserves it, and he doesnāt even apologize. Yet male leads are always the ones getting slapped š š¤£š
Thank you again, and sorry for bothering you. I just really dislike how itās always so easy to disrespect male leads, and they donāt even get a real apology. Instead, theyāre the ones who end up apologizing for giving her a reason to slap them š®āšØš
That isn't the case for this drama. You can justify the characters according to their own situations. No one is…
I think that no matter what she does, she still can't make up for her grandfather's betrayalābecause of it, his grandfather and father died, and he had to watch them die in front of his eyes. That's the first point. Second, I knew he would act like that because of his anger and the promise he made to his father and grandfather. And third, they made it this way just to show that she's smarter than himāthat she won over him and made him look stupid. He even ends up owing her a favor for saving his family, so she looks like the hero. Just like that, she wins over his people and even him.
This is such a typical female-lead-centric drama plot: always making the FL smarter and on a higher level than the ML. After a short time, he turns into a simp who loves her unconditionally š š¤£
I'm watching it right now just to see how they turn him from the strong character he started as into a silly, love-struck man whose only purpose is to please the FL. And I read that even when they become a couple, she still doesn't trust himāunlike him, who only distrusted her when he thought she was an enemy.
sorry for making my comments long , and thank you for the reply
someone do me a favor and tell me timestamp of fl slapping ml ! I want to skip it because I will drop it if a see how she disrespect him and he don't do anything even if she's his enemy!! I hate this cliche in Cdrama they take slap a man is not a big deal and make ml reaction to it like he's a weak simp ) even he didn't like her like that but still he didn't defend himself from a weak woman slap and don't even say anything about and he has to apologize for his mistakes after even if he did it in time they are enemies but fl never do that!!!? I hate this double standard,so I want too skip it because they include it just to humiliat ml and show who's the boss š®āšØš
Not surprised but disappointed lol This has only 10 episodes and the main couple's relationship isn't even established…
And plus, the way she treated her ex ā first, she didnāt even want to breathe the same air he did, but then sheās suddenly going to Japan with him, laughing and reminiscing about their memories, treating the male lead like heās nothing and ignoring him. And she forgives her ex like he never did anything wrong."
Literally Wei ShaoBorn to be a simp Forced to be a rulerFated to be both š
"Finally, someone said it! The majority of comments suggest the male lead's true personality is that he's cold and he doesn't act like a simp , and that the female lead did more and showed more love. I was shocked because in C-dramas like this , it's usually impossible for the female lead to love the male lead more or act like a traditionally submissive wife, or for the male lead not to love her unconditionally. I get that in this kind of drama, the minimum expectation is for the male lead to love the female lead unconditionally, always apologize, and focus all his thoughts on making her happy and pleased. Even if it's something he didn't like, he still changes to be what she likes, LOL."
They changed it for TV censorship. In the novel there was never a one year mourning period. They were constantly…
Yes, she should take the lead and show that she wants it too. It shouldnāt always be the man who has to take the first step and ask her to do it. Men like it when the woman does her part ā not when sheās the leader from the start and he acts like he doesnāt know anything!
Also, I misunderstood the scene because I didnāt watch it completely ā I skipped through it since I planned to watch it properly later while watching the drama. š
Thanks! If itās like you said, then itās actually a good scene, and thereās nothing wrong with it.
They changed it for TV censorship. In the novel there was never a one year mourning period. They were constantly…
Ah, thanks! I get it now. So the year is the time when they are still enemies! They use that time to get to know each other and fall in love. Thatās more acceptable than making him wait while they already like each other. And there are many traditional things from that time that they donāt follow, so I wonder why they should follow just this one š¤£š 𤣠thanks Have a good night!
They changed it for TV censorship. In the novel there was never a one year mourning period. They were constantly…
thank you, I didn't watch it it's just from reading reviews, because I like to know the spoilers before start watching a drama , because I hate love triangle and sad ending and one of mls do everything in the relationship and the other just receiving, and also hate simping and simps lol so I need to do a search before start š š¤£ thanks
It is in episode 27. There is a little jealousy and fights but it wraps soon. The main problem is not between…
and what fl did !? is she like other smart fls that don't even know about his feelings and act like his close friend indirectly making ml act silly because of jealousy like they use in many Cdramas!? thanks and sorry for bothering you
They changed it for TV censorship. In the novel there was never a one year mourning period. They were constantly…
ah I think you're wrong about that no one of them in love, because I read many reviews saying ml fall first sight just didn't act on it because she's his enemy , I just read it I don't if it's true
They changed it for TV censorship. In the novel there was never a one year mourning period. They were constantly…
Thank you. But did she do that because she truly loved him, or just to win him over and stop him from taking revenge?
I saw a scene of them together, but I didnāt like itābecause the ML was under her, and she was the one taking the lead. It looked like she had the upper hand in the relationship, and even in the bedroom too š š¤£. She didnāt even let him be a man or at least act like one, especially after he waited a whole year for that moment( I know majority of viewers are women so they like it because of the same reason I dislike it ) š¤£š š¤£
Good morning, I watched second time from the beginning to end. So, I can watch what did I missed first time watch…
You watched it, so I think you might know the exact episode where the FL falls for him, says it to herself, and starts trying to show itādo you know? I read that the ML fell for her at first sight but didnāt say anything because of the circumstances. Also, in which episode do they start acting like a real married couple? I heard they didnāt have any intimacy until more than a year into their marriageāis that true?
Maybe Iām wrong to think this drama is like most C-dramas, with the same repetitive plot. I really hope Iām wrong ā because I stopped watching C-dramas since the male leads always act like simps with no dignity, chasing after female leads who have more important things to do than love them back the same way
I get that I talked without watch it is weird but trust me I read a lot about it and I was following comments here about it also because I like to read about dramas more than watch it šš š¤
sorry for bothering you and for long comments,
have a good night
She gets upset at him for what he didāso what is he supposed to feel about her and her family, considering the betrayal and the deaths that resulted from it? Honestly, I still donāt understand how he even forgave them and fell in love with her š . If I were in his place, sorry, I wouldāve taken their land and made them pay for what they didāand then letās see if she would still fall in love with me!
But noāthey made him fall for her despite everything her family did. He even broke the promise he made to his own family just because he loved herāand not just any kind of love, but an unconditional one. He didnāt even consider the possibility that she might take advantage of that love (which she didāby not trusting him after everything he did for her and by hiding secrets from him). And again, he ends up understanding her and even apologizes like heās the one who did something wrong for feeling hurt that she didnāt trust him š¤£š .
imagine if it's ml family who betrayed her family I bet all drama he will apologizing and she act cold towards him. making him suffer and take revenge and she will not stop till nearly killed him for what his family did , and still he has to win her a and he will be also the first to fall and harder and has to fight with other smls to win her , this is Cdramas writing style always fls right and perfect and mls has to change for them š
I also asked for the timestamp, but no one has mentioned it to me yet. š¤
And him grabbing her by the neck is not okay either. From watching many C-dramas, I realized that FLs often slap MLs and MLs choke them. But you'll never see a scene where a ML slaps a FL and doesn't have to apologizeāor where the FL doesn't take revenge. Yet choking the FL is treated like it's no big deal.
The difference is, MLs usually apologize many times for doing that, but youāll almost never see a FL apologize for slapping the ML. I dislike Chinese writers for this because they canāt seem to create equality when it comes to these abusive clichĆ©s. The ML is almost never treated equally to the FL. The FL is always portrayed as perfect, and the ML has to "worship" her just because she agreed to be his womanālol. And not just thatāalmost every man in the drama falls for her, not just the ML. Itās like sheās the only woman who exists in their world, while the ML always loves her like heās never seen another woman before.
And I think youāve watched many C-dramas too, so you know: MLs always love unconditionally, but FLs always seem to love other things more than the ML. They love the MLs with their minds, not just their heartsāunlike how MLs love.
šš®āšØ Sorry for the long comment, itās just a topic that really frustrates me. And itās because of all thisāand how most men characters of the dramas fall for FLs like they've never seen another womanāthat I stopped watching C-dramas. I wanted to watch this one, Iāll force myself, and maybe Iāll finally see a FL who loves the ML the way he loves herāand actually puts in effort for him, not just because it benefits her to
have a good day
And for me, thereās nothing that justifies her slapping him in front of all his men after using him to escape from the other guy. She slapped him, and afterward, she reacted in a funny way just so they wouldnāt keep the atmosphere seriousābut that doesnāt change what happened.
I donāt find abuse funny from either side. Iāve never seen a male lead slap the female lead, and she just stays silent, thinks she deserves it, and he doesnāt even apologize. Yet male leads are always the ones getting slapped š š¤£š
Thank you again, and sorry for bothering you. I just really dislike how itās always so easy to disrespect male leads, and they donāt even get a real apology. Instead, theyāre the ones who end up apologizing for giving her a reason to slap them š®āšØš
Second, I knew he would act like that because of his anger and the promise he made to his father and grandfather.
And third, they made it this way just to show that she's smarter than himāthat she won over him and made him look stupid. He even ends up owing her a favor for saving his family, so she looks like the hero.
Just like that, she wins over his people and even him.
This is such a typical female-lead-centric drama plot: always making the FL smarter and on a higher level than the ML. After a short time, he turns into a simp who loves her unconditionally š š¤£
I'm watching it right now just to see how they turn him from the strong character he started as into a silly, love-struck man whose only purpose is to please the FL.
And I read that even when they become a couple, she still doesn't trust himāunlike him, who only distrusted her when he thought she was an enemy.
sorry for making my comments long , and thank you for the reply
Also, I misunderstood the scene because I didnāt watch it completely ā I skipped through it since I planned to watch it properly later while watching the drama. š
Thanks! If itās like you said, then itās actually a good scene, and thereās nothing wrong with it.
Have a good night!
thanks and sorry for bothering you
I saw a scene of them together, but I didnāt like itābecause the ML was under her, and she was the one taking the lead. It looked like she had the upper hand in the relationship, and even in the bedroom too š š¤£. She didnāt even let him be a man or at least act like one, especially after he waited a whole year for that moment( I know majority of viewers are women so they like it because of the same reason I dislike it ) š¤£š š¤£
Thank you again, and sorry for bothering you!
thank you