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7 is just above 4 on the numeric keypad. Their finger probably went awry.

I think it incredibly unlikely that Tilan thought being Zizian would make him happy. All scenes prior to this point shows Tilan understands precisely how the consideration of Zizian would make the emperor react.

Everything about Tilan and her understanding of her situation, and also of her appreciation of the somewhat peaceful relations she'd been able to attain with him to that point says she wouldn't, for consideration of her own peaceful life, push the emperor in any way. There is only one change at this point in the story so far which, to my mind, can explain her action.

The envoy, and the subsequent disclosure from her maid about the situation in her home state.

I'm thinking Tilan's probably been shamed into how she's sought to protect herself by keeping her relations with the emperor peaceful, at the expense of the welfare of the common people. She likely came to a conclusion she had a duty to push the relationship further, not for herself but for others.

Just my thoughts.

It hasn't been explained fully. Which, sure, in part is infuriating, but imho I'm bearing with it because ... do we ever really know the full details of traitorous plots when they're happening?

Maybe she was working for Su Ming.

Or maybe while Ju Qiqi was supposed to be working under the Fang's as per her family before her, maybe Ju Qiqi branched out as a traitor purely because of her jealousy and so there were 2 traitors acting concurrently - Su Ming and Ju Qiqi. It could be that Su Ming targeted the fabric department just because he had been targeting Fang Jianming's people all along and the fabric department was an easy get.

Let me add to the conspiracy cornucopia ... did you think that General Tang's gesturing might have been in the Prince's direction...?

You meant 23-24?

Firstly - DIE EMPEROR DIE!!!!

Secondly - Fang Jianming deserves a thousand emotional cuts, my best wishes for Haishi's future tongue to be the sharpest and most cutting. 😈

Edit : *sigh* Well, at least I'll have fond memories the Lanzi sugar scenes.

Beautiful *sexy* scene!

Has to be said, there was one scene with him in his armor that made him look like a turtle.

Not wanting to hate ... just saying.

I got that impression too ;D

In the photos section there is one of the airing schedule.

Same. That candle scene intimacy was just way too much sugar. It's gonna be a hell of a sugar crash if that sugar ain't sweet!

Can't wait to see how it all develops out in the next few episodes.

Has to be said the production has really been giving us great teasers so far. :)

Well, I was totally off about Haishi being captured. No undercover at all. Straight out capture.

Hmmm ... maybe the production team aren't screwing us with the candle tease....

Yeah, that shiny mermaid palm thingy is persistently nagging at the back of my eyeballs.

I'm forever an optimistic pessimistic. I know it's likely we won't get satisfaction so early. But I still hope.

(And then my hopes get crushed like piano falling on a pavement walking pedestrian. All discordant and bloodily messy. Like Feng Zhi Wei at the end of Rise of Phoenixes. Highest quality drama hopes dashed into utterly defeated smithereens. D*mn you production crews for toying with my heartbound hopes like this. 🥺😭)

Yaaaay! Love conquers hate!! 💖

lol we should probably start a 'frequent q&a' discussion thread given how many times this question gets asked.

But then, most people would just skip past the Discussions section and go straight to Comments anyways.

So, while I'd like to think, based on the previous teaser glimpses, that on hearing Haishi was captured, rushing to her side, and watching over her while she recovered, that Jianming is finally willing to take things to the next step and that's why he got all in her personal space and asked her if she knew what the red candles symbolised ...

...I can't help thinking the production team are deliberately screwing with us with the teasers, so, here's an alternate that I'm thinking might be likely...

...the maiden of those wandering Jiaman tribespeople who are treated as two-legged sheep is actually one of their nobles or holy maidens or whatever. When Haishi tries to warn them about the Red Plain place they're walking towards, the Jiaman are on the cusp of being imprisoned, so Haishi takes the maiden's place so the maiden isn't captured, and coincidentally Haishi can go undercover and find shit out about what the Huku are really up to. The maiden is incredibly overwhelmed by this act, and also her initial sight of Haishi trying to protect them from the Huku back at Huangquan Pass and decides she'd really like to marry Haishi and gifts Haishi with the red candles as some sort of Jiaman tribe marriage custom. Aaaaaand THAT'S why Jianming comes in and asks Haishi if she really doesn't know about the candles.

My first instinct is that the production crew MUST be screwing with us. 🧐

re: ep 17-18 teasers...

Meh. No Gandalf. No white-haired mane. No same. Is aok. 😎 (At least with me, just IMHO.) As they say, nothing is truly original.

Frankly it seems like such easily iconic imagery I'd be surprised if no one had framed it in a similar fashion even before the Helm's Deep was filmed.

...but d*mn! I'd forgotten how good those long-haired Rohirrim looked charging around on horseback. Need to go back and re-watch my extended editions again, has been some years. Always a sucker for long-haired men. 😉

Edit: Woohoo!! Found something to take my mind off away from this drama while waiting for the next episode releases! Lord of the Rings-a-thon!!! 🎈🎉🍰💖 Thanks Dingoo!

They really put the tease in teasers ^^

That is true, but it is also true that:
(a) Not everyone watches the teaser trailers; and
(b) Not everyone watches the actual episode releases at the same time; so
....in order that everyone can participate in this comments section without fear of spoileration, please add a spoiler tag to anything that details plot events, like, for example, main characters being imprisoned, or planning to escape their current imprisonment.

Thanks ^^.