I don't wanna write harsh / disrespectful things here (like - unfortunately - a lot of people are doing on MDL)…
It's still a Wabi Sabi production even when it's payed for by GMMTV. And I don't think it's a bad choice, the problem is GMMTV which is meddling too much making a series without characters, just play it safe to please the fangirls.
Now that the series has aired, it's better than I though it would be. Looks like the project going from Studio…
You do know that the productions is still Wabi Sabi even when it's not mentioned in the credits and of course the director is the founder of Wabi Sabi. So, it's still Wabi Sabi with GMMTV producers and staff.
Ep 2 was a considerable drop from Ep 1, but that's typically GMMTV.
Naaah, that's tooooooo much for all the problematic stuff in it.
That maybe so, but the problem is it reflects on reality. Fans watch BLs and say gay sex is gross or as it happens the lead is really gay and thats gross. And I think WTF? There are enough practices in heterosexual sex I find gross, but that's never shown in any heterosexual drama besides rape which is always negative. At least I never saw a story where a woman is raped and they life happily ever after. If you want to watch dark or sad series you can do so, but they are mostly not "rewarded" by fans. For example "Happy of the End" or "180 Degrees Longitude Passes Through Us". The first is one of the few which also show heteros can be sick bastards and the second one shows how the pressure of society does hinder people from a happy life. I ask the question, if this storypoints were necessary to make the series and I say "no". They did not need to include that. If Wei just would not act like a homophobic prick it would have elevated the series. And Chi Cheng as gay man would not think a gang-rape is a good punishment.
So disappointed they turned this into comedy, they should have stuck to the first trailer concept
they will mix it, it's neither a comedy nor a drama nor something else... it will be the typical fangirl appeal... maybe at least the story makes sense...
I would not weight that so much, because it was overplayed for dramatic effect. It's not that he hate on the doctor…
I guess it was done to protect the actors because in the city filmed there will be an international summit and everytime when something like that happens, the censorship authority will put pressure on the production company and the actors. That's why the last episodes were rushed out. So, I speculate they did that really for self protection.
The did de-toxic the story from the book, but they did not de-homophobic the lead. That I agree with. But I think they did not think of the consquences or making it more real. That happens when woman write for women and a woman directed for women :)
Regarding your "elephant in the room": I would venture to describe Wu So Wei as the most homophobic lead…
I would not weight that so much, because it was overplayed for dramatic effect. It's not that he hate on the doctor or beat him up or anything of that. But it was really unnecessary. But fangirls love that.
Top/Bottom: That's why I was pissed they cut the scene when Wei topped Chi Cheng. Maybe that's in the cut 7 minutes of the finale.
But I agree they did not consider the ramifications.
Hey, friend, I was looking to clear a few things up in terms of the production points you'd made. In Chinese dramas,…
Dear Coupranghae, I know it's practice to dub because of the thousands of dialects in Mandarin. Which does not mean it has to be made sloppy. And the soundeffects were also made sloppy - not balanced. And that is an distraction which breaks the immersion and that is a no go in my book.
If a chinese series is done for a non-chinese market, there would not be a need to dub, because it would not matter if the Mandarin is standard or not (maybe except Singapore and Taiwan). It's also practice to have chinese subtitles anyways. Of course they could dub it for the visual impaired or blind people. I don't know if "Stay With Me (2023)" was dubbed or not, at least I did not notice it or at least I do not remember that I noticed it. So quality is key.
So, I don't care if they dub it or not, I only care if the quality is met. And they did not.
Welcome. If you don't understand a series or episode, I would recommand to rewatch it again... because if you have to wait week for week your memory can be fuzzy. Binge-watching a whole series does help.
Does it matter if it exists or not? Do you not have other problems? Has anyone asked you why you exist?
And do you need to open your mouth and vomit your opinion in the comments? I would understand it if it was constructive but your comment was also unnecessay because it does not alter your life in ANY way.
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And I don't think it's a bad choice, the problem is GMMTV which is meddling too much making a series without characters, just play it safe to please the fangirls.
So, it's still Wabi Sabi with GMMTV producers and staff.
Ep 2 was a considerable drop from Ep 1, but that's typically GMMTV.
Fans watch BLs and say gay sex is gross or as it happens the lead is really gay and thats gross. And I think WTF?
There are enough practices in heterosexual sex I find gross, but that's never shown in any heterosexual drama besides rape which is always negative. At least I never saw a story where a woman is raped and they life happily ever after.
If you want to watch dark or sad series you can do so, but they are mostly not "rewarded" by fans. For example "Happy of the End" or "180 Degrees Longitude Passes Through Us". The first is one of the few which also show heteros can be sick bastards and the second one shows how the pressure of society does hinder people from a happy life.
I ask the question, if this storypoints were necessary to make the series and I say "no". They did not need to include that. If Wei just would not act like a homophobic prick it would have elevated the series. And Chi Cheng as gay man would not think a gang-rape is a good punishment.
The did de-toxic the story from the book, but they did not de-homophobic the lead. That I agree with. But I think they did not think of the consquences or making it more real. That happens when woman write for women and a woman directed for women :)
Top/Bottom: That's why I was pissed they cut the scene when Wei topped Chi Cheng. Maybe that's in the cut 7 minutes of the finale.
But I agree they did not consider the ramifications.
If a chinese series is done for a non-chinese market, there would not be a need to dub, because it would not matter if the Mandarin is standard or not (maybe except Singapore and Taiwan). It's also practice to have chinese subtitles anyways. Of course they could dub it for the visual impaired or blind people. I don't know if "Stay With Me (2023)" was dubbed or not, at least I did not notice it or at least I do not remember that I noticed it. So quality is key.
So, I don't care if they dub it or not, I only care if the quality is met. And they did not.
If you don't understand a series or episode, I would recommand to rewatch it again... because if you have to wait week for week your memory can be fuzzy. Binge-watching a whole series does help.
And why do you not just watch it?
That's also why red flag would also overlooked or even embraced, because it's just a fantasy...
And you are right the last episodes are flat and the finale lackluster.
Well done!
Do you not have other problems?
Has anyone asked you why you exist?
And do you need to open your mouth and vomit your opinion in the comments?
I would understand it if it was constructive but your comment was also unnecessay because it does not alter your life in ANY way.
Questions over questions...