i am binge watching this & haven't finished yet... but read comments cursing out Risa & having watched…
People dislike Risa the most because she's a manipulative doublecrosser trying to get both brothers to kill each other without any r/s with her bodyguard to soften her personality. She is strictly business and pure ice cold. The dad is of course the big bad that made all his 3 children the twisted way they are but the show isn't focused on his evil deeds. Anyways he's out of the picture now so Risa is the final villain.
I just realized we never got the scene of Pheem + Than aggressively pushing each other into walls before shirt…
Sad that that scene was only marketing... or hopefully its in the very last episode somehow. There have been many cases of 'slap' and 'kiss' with the number of times Pheem has betrayed, shot and drugged Than but somehow they could just kiss and make up afterwards... lolol
For as much as I love our boys, I'm really disappointed with this series. It's a mess.The most absurd thing this…
At this point, Risa is just saying that she hopes Pheem returns back so that he can explain what happened. Notice that she is very careful in not accusing but only implying Pheem is somehow involved in their father's death. She probably doesn't want the police involved because she needs him dead (killed by Chet, and hopefully the brothers kill each other) rather than get captured alive by the police and causing problems for her later on.
Honestly i'm losing interest in this show espicially after this episode but it started since ep 8 that's so disappointing…
Yes the irony of the family owning a hospital is intentional. The father set up a hospital because it makes him feel good that he has the power of life and death over his patients. Plus the dad was extremely keen to do a 'wellness center' for rich patients to squeeze them out of their money. This hospital doesn't care about serving the community but is only for making money and even his own children are valued only by how useful they are to increase its share price.
Than has the weakest resolve love interest of a red flag I have ever seen in BL. His heart defenses are weaker…
The problem is that the writers are squeezing in 14 episodes or more worth of plot into 10. If Pheem had a 5~6 episode redemption arc where Than makes him grovel and beg then I would probably accept their love (although shooting your lover in the back, really?)
Honestly, I do love red flag bad boys so I'm not opposed to Pheem's characterization, but the plot would be much better written imho if Pheem's evilness rubs off on Than and they are an evil BL couple Bonnie and Clyde style, planning and destroying all their enemies together that dare stand in their path!
Also how would Risa take over Chets position? A company is not a monarchy. Just because she is Thanets daughter…
We don't know much about the shareholding of the company, but it seems that its held by their dad and several external investors. Since the dad was able to promote Chet, and later Pheem to 2nd in command, their family has majority control. When he died, of course depending on his will, perhaps the shares were divided equally among the 3 children, although it seemed the father was operating a brutal winner-takes-all system with only 1 heir inheriting everything. If the father didn't change his will in time (cause events happened so quickly and his death was unexpected), then as the heir apparent, Chet would be the majority shareholder (plus as the son of his mother who was also a big shot).
Chet+Risa's shares would outweigh Pheem's shares. It's true that Risa wasn't as high profile as Chet or Pheem as an executive, but she's the kind that likes ruling as the power behind the throne anyways. It definitely seems to be the case cause she told the others that "Chet is unwell, and she would attend the meeting for him", showing that Chet is formally the chief executive.
If she continues to help Chet in his attempts to kill Pheem, I guess she can work out a deal where Chet transfers more shares to her for her plans to kill Pheem (since Risa is a much better planner than Chet) if it succeeds so that eventually she can rule in her own right. He's not mentally sound anyways so who knows if he would agree to the share transfer, or eventually bite her in the ass and kill her instead.
Over the top: ChetI almost gave up on this series because I just could not stand watching Chet. His acting was…
Chet is a really emotional character, spoilt mommy's boy that's brought up as the heir apparent and completely poisoned in the head by his evil dad and mum to destroy everyone that get's in his way of inheriting the business empire. He's easily tricked and manipulated and a bad player in this game of thrones style family feud.
Pheem is the exact opposite. He casts his emotions aside for his goal (to take revenge and get the inheritance). Risa is even worse, with no emotions or real human connections at all, even her relationship with her ladyguard is strictly cold and professional. She is arguably the best player in the game, I think even better than Pheem. This is because Pheem had many lucky breaks for Than to save him as he can't die as the MC. All three characters indeed are quite common in Asian inheritance in-fighting dramas.
I agree with you that the writers are too ambitious to cram 14 episodes worth of plot into a 10 episode drama. Pheem has zero redemption arc. If Pheem had a 5~6 episode redemption arc after shooting his lover in the back, then perhaps the relationship can be properly saved. But we don't know why the writers decided to do a random wedding scene at the end of ep. 9, and then for Pheem to do something shitty to Than again afterwards. It's absurd. I'm unsure why Than keeps taking him back, I guess he's a masochist. If he's a masochist or have Stockholm syndrome than write him explictly as one!
This has been heavy on my mind since I watched the episode! It's damaging enough to drug Than on his own, he's…
Nittaya should stop enabling Pheem while 'scolding' him. Either she should be be firm in her morals and stop being his drug supplier, OR be an active co-conspirator with Pheem in all of his wicked plans. She can't be constantly enabling him while pretending to have the moral high ground, its absurd!
The part at than’s place… pheem went to apologise at than’s room and than shut the door in pheem’s face.…
Than has the weakest resolve love interest of a red flag I have ever seen in BL. His heart defenses are weaker than soggy toilet paper. Weaker than Pete from KinnPorsche and weaker than Joe from My Stand-In.
Than's a 100% no-spine simple-minded do-gooder. There is no proper redemption arc of Pheem, and we are only 1 episode left. I think Than has masochistic tendencies cause he keeps returning back to Pheem (and saving his ass) for more!
Wtf… I thought the nurse has enough of helping pheem drug people. Now she’s drugging than again?! 1. That…
Honestly, I feel that Nittaya is an enabler of Pheem. Sure, she scolds him (very gently) from time to time, but in the end goes along with all his schemes by being his drug dealer. First, it was to stop Than's heart so that he appears dead (which is extremely dangerous) and now drugging Than and his parents to sleep...
If she was an active co-conspirator with Pheem, then I wouldn't mind her character that much, but I seriously can't stand her fake moralizing attitude when she's just enabling him all the way!
My pov, Pheem should be patient enough and trust the process.He has ever supportive partner and his lovely non…
Thai BLs always have the MC trying to 'solve the problem' on their own and act as a lone hero to 'avoid burdening others'... even when there's an entire support system behind him. It's a stereotype at this point... lol
Agreed, they should have put the wedding at the end of ep.10 (last episode) which would cap off the entire series…
Pheem is not reformed. He is just who he is. I think Than is just a sucker for such a manipulative red flag bad boy. Some people are innately just like that and I thought Joe from My Stand-In was down so bad and the most forgiving angel. Than didn't even bother to put up any defensive resistance at all and has to save Pheem repeatedly even after getting shot in the back by him... lol
Chet was treated the best out of all of them growing up. It wasn't until recently that he was treated the worst.…
Yes, the father is the big bad because he deliberately fostered such a hostile and machiavellian thinking in all of his 3 children. It's extremely obvious he never ever cared for their well-being, but only of their usefulness to him and the hospital. However, since the show is written in such a way that the 3 children all look up to him (despite his twisted morals), he can't be the 'final boss' and has to be eliminated early. It is a power struggle among the 3 siblings to inherit the business empire after all, not him per se.
Since Chet is the dumb emotional incompetent loud big bro, he can't be the final boss. He's the character that is so obnoxious at the start but is a distraction. Pheem the MC is the youngest bro that is the wonder kid. Thus, Risa as overlooked middle-child has to be the true villain. Is she a villain simply because she is a woman? I think its more than that.
She was constantly put down all her life by a sexist father that never considered her as a worthy competitor to be the heir compared to her 2 brothers, and she was not even an executive (her father telling her no woman can be one). She's not even respected by Chet or Pheem that misjudged her perhaps due to their own innate sexism. I feel that she and her ladyguard are icons in their own right as she is the most strategic planner and her ladyguard is the most capable bodyguard. By right, she should inherit the hospital since she is the most like her father. She is the final boss cause she is the most cold-blooded and amoral, but certainly she feeling the need to prove herself is great fuel as her villain motivation.
Just as I thought, the writers are now making Risa the absolute and ultimate evil, while her being undeniably…
The father is the big bad but all 3 of his children seem so crazy obsessed with proving themselves to him... Chet was the heir apparent and privileged by his dad over the other 2 siblings before Pheem returned so I guess he was attached to his dad. Plus, even if later on his dad treated him like shit, its Chet's personality to be 'programmed' to be filial (see his reaction to his mom's death).
It's a bit more strange for Pheem to be sad since that dad never cared for him in his life (and sent him far away since young) and his entire purpose of returning was to take revenge for his mother's death. Or perhaps the writers were trying to humanize him more at his point.
For Risa... she wasn't that happy that her dad died but in the ultimate villain sort of way, its NOT out of empathy but because she couldn't show her dad how she's the most manipulative and thus deserving to be the heir among them all...
Than: "Just promise me one thing Pheem, that you'll never run away from me again" 🙏Pheem: "I promise"…
At this rate, I think Pheem's lying and manipulative nature is just part of who he is and Than has already fully accepted that he's stuck with such a red flag bastard forever... 😅😅😅
This episode wasn't bad, but I think the reconciliation between Than and Pheem, followed by their marriage, especially…
Agreed, they should have put the wedding at the end of ep.10 (last episode) which would cap off the entire series nicely. Plus right at the end of ep.9, Pheem's cunning and manipulative nature is STILL NOT FIXED! He is still not yet redeemed! He drugged Than and his parents to "solve the problem himself"... why did he have to do that???
dad is right to send chet constantly away damn this man can destroy ears
I laughed at your comment. Chet is indeed the most dramatic character I've seen in a BL drama in a long time and it's funny cause it's completely unintentional (in his own POV) 😂
🤣 I was reading these unserious theories on tumblr that basically said that Park really only signed up for…
Agreed that Park as a bodyguard is terrible, but as a bf, he's perfect. Sometimes its cute to see 2 incompetent idiots fumbling together lol.
Actually Pheem did plot to kill Jason by releasing that crazy person he scammed, so yes he's not above killing people to get them out of the way. And Chet did try to kill Pheem multiple times, but didn't manage to do so due to Pheem's MC plot armour lol.
Regarding villains, the father is still the big bad. He ordered his son Pheem to kill his own lover Than to 'prove' himself to be the heir. He corrupts everyone around him including his wife and children.
Is there sexism shown in this show? Yes, Chet's mother had to endure her husband having 2 mistresses and Risa had to endure being overlooked over her brothers. These are all valid issues women frequently face today. But I think they aren't unfairly singled out as villains just because they were female, but simply because they were all linked to that demon of a father. Luckily there isn't any evil ex-gf in this show. Female villains can stand in their own right.
All of the siblings are flawed characters- Risa is so cunning that she lacks any real humanity, Chet is so emotional…
It's frustrating that none of them can truly see the real villain who is their despicable father. All of them still have the mentality of "I'll prove to my dad that I can succeed him!"
i stand with my cancelled wife pheem if i had to deal with evil stepsister w a bob and mr crashoutdaily id get…
Haha your comment made me laugh, thanks! Seriously with the amount of time and energy the 3 siblings spend on destroying each other, if only they could combine it to make the hospital better, or take down their evil father!
Honestly, I do love red flag bad boys so I'm not opposed to Pheem's characterization, but the plot would be much better written imho if Pheem's evilness rubs off on Than and they are an evil BL couple Bonnie and Clyde style, planning and destroying all their enemies together that dare stand in their path!
Chet+Risa's shares would outweigh Pheem's shares. It's true that Risa wasn't as high profile as Chet or Pheem as an executive, but she's the kind that likes ruling as the power behind the throne anyways. It definitely seems to be the case cause she told the others that "Chet is unwell, and she would attend the meeting for him", showing that Chet is formally the chief executive.
If she continues to help Chet in his attempts to kill Pheem, I guess she can work out a deal where Chet transfers more shares to her for her plans to kill Pheem (since Risa is a much better planner than Chet) if it succeeds so that eventually she can rule in her own right. He's not mentally sound anyways so who knows if he would agree to the share transfer, or eventually bite her in the ass and kill her instead.
Pheem is the exact opposite. He casts his emotions aside for his goal (to take revenge and get the inheritance). Risa is even worse, with no emotions or real human connections at all, even her relationship with her ladyguard is strictly cold and professional. She is arguably the best player in the game, I think even better than Pheem. This is because Pheem had many lucky breaks for Than to save him as he can't die as the MC. All three characters indeed are quite common in Asian inheritance in-fighting dramas.
I agree with you that the writers are too ambitious to cram 14 episodes worth of plot into a 10 episode drama. Pheem has zero redemption arc. If Pheem had a 5~6 episode redemption arc after shooting his lover in the back, then perhaps the relationship can be properly saved. But we don't know why the writers decided to do a random wedding scene at the end of ep. 9, and then for Pheem to do something shitty to Than again afterwards. It's absurd. I'm unsure why Than keeps taking him back, I guess he's a masochist. If he's a masochist or have Stockholm syndrome than write him explictly as one!
Than's a 100% no-spine simple-minded do-gooder. There is no proper redemption arc of Pheem, and we are only 1 episode left. I think Than has masochistic tendencies cause he keeps returning back to Pheem (and saving his ass) for more!
If she was an active co-conspirator with Pheem, then I wouldn't mind her character that much, but I seriously can't stand her fake moralizing attitude when she's just enabling him all the way!
Since Chet is the dumb emotional incompetent loud big bro, he can't be the final boss. He's the character that is so obnoxious at the start but is a distraction. Pheem the MC is the youngest bro that is the wonder kid. Thus, Risa as overlooked middle-child has to be the true villain. Is she a villain simply because she is a woman? I think its more than that.
She was constantly put down all her life by a sexist father that never considered her as a worthy competitor to be the heir compared to her 2 brothers, and she was not even an executive (her father telling her no woman can be one). She's not even respected by Chet or Pheem that misjudged her perhaps due to their own innate sexism. I feel that she and her ladyguard are icons in their own right as she is the most strategic planner and her ladyguard is the most capable bodyguard. By right, she should inherit the hospital since she is the most like her father. She is the final boss cause she is the most cold-blooded and amoral, but certainly she feeling the need to prove herself is great fuel as her villain motivation.
It's a bit more strange for Pheem to be sad since that dad never cared for him in his life (and sent him far away since young) and his entire purpose of returning was to take revenge for his mother's death. Or perhaps the writers were trying to humanize him more at his point.
For Risa... she wasn't that happy that her dad died but in the ultimate villain sort of way, its NOT out of empathy but because she couldn't show her dad how she's the most manipulative and thus deserving to be the heir among them all...
Actually Pheem did plot to kill Jason by releasing that crazy person he scammed, so yes he's not above killing people to get them out of the way. And Chet did try to kill Pheem multiple times, but didn't manage to do so due to Pheem's MC plot armour lol.
Regarding villains, the father is still the big bad. He ordered his son Pheem to kill his own lover Than to 'prove' himself to be the heir. He corrupts everyone around him including his wife and children.
Is there sexism shown in this show? Yes, Chet's mother had to endure her husband having 2 mistresses and Risa had to endure being overlooked over her brothers. These are all valid issues women frequently face today. But I think they aren't unfairly singled out as villains just because they were female, but simply because they were all linked to that demon of a father. Luckily there isn't any evil ex-gf in this show. Female villains can stand in their own right.