Is it just me or did the punishments for the bad guys for the idol group story got really brutal? It might be…
Yeah, the rooftop scene was ridiculous. He jumped to save her when he cornered her just a moment prior on the edge of the rooftop with no railing (plus all the drones coming towards her) The revenge arc got short in general, everything happens within 5 minutes. I don't mind all the backstories, in fact I enjoy them, but revenge execution time is being cut short
some people whining about how the case took 4 episodes forgot that not only this is not the first time in the…
this couldn't have been resolved in 2 episodes.. It was very emotional, layered and complex plus it was something that happened 15 years ago so of course investigation took longer. It probably could've fit in 3 episodes but it's not a format they do for cases
I'm wondering why there was that scene where she pushed the girl at the orphanage.
I think that was some really bad gaslighting of the audienceπ When they were talking about the orphanage incident hey said that she pushed her friend down the stairs because "she saw her photo on the school lunch milk carton and hated her smile"? Honestly I often doubt the quality of Netflix subtitles but if they're correct then it's too problematic behaviour to be put aside just like that π it's completely opposite from what we saw later. It shows her impulsiveness, yes, she still has it but she seems unable to hurt anyone
yea, me too. Seems like the reason he had become a rather bad person is because he believed his dream would never…
absolutely. We saw in ep7 that he's been gaslighted the whole time by a person in position of power - you have no talent, nobody chose you etc. And yet we saw he's quite a decent player that contributed to the team's win. In the end he chose to come forward and confess. He's done the most damage to himself after all and I'm sure he paid for it
So true! Also, for the murder mission, why not wear the mask the whole time? Or at least when she's making her…
I was thinking about that whole following vs parole officer thing as well. I found it weird she doesn't worry about them tracking her. But I think they don't monitor her all the time in real time, they only reacted when she broke the curfew or stepped out of her allowed zone (I'm not sure if this is neglect of duty or that's how it works in real life too..?) I think they would only check her daily routes if a crime occured True, her backstory wasn't really explored. We know she was orphaned at a young age but they say nothing more of it. Depends how young she was, she could've been 6 but she could've also been like 17? It remains unclear, they obviously didn't mean for it to play a big role in the story. Anyway I agree with you, her choice of actions annoyed me a lot as well π I just thought they intended it to be that way rather than plot holes. I also think the actors made it better for me. Not sure how it would turn out with different people
I have mixed opinions on this show. The show starts out with a dark deal being made between the 2 leads, showing…
Honestly from the synopsis I expecte Mo Eun to be a part of some grand mercenary scheme π I also thought she would already be in prison when Yun Su arrived there. I liked the show but it definitely turned out more "tame" than I expected
So true! Also, for the murder mission, why not wear the mask the whole time? Or at least when she's making her…
hm.. I actually think her behaviour is line with her character. She's too trusting and transparent and didn't spend enough time in prison to gain some serious deception/survival skills. She actually managed to follow that boy around and pull off that whole broken monitor thing - which I didn't expect AT ALL because up to that point she didn't seem to worry about her movements being recorded π That said, the two of them only managed to go through with their plan because Mo Eun's lawyer WANTED them to (he seemed so trusting, didn't check her incoming letters, nothing) and actually that was the biggest hint of all π Someone in the comments highlighted that the police didn't check her dead husband's call history and to me it was the biggest plot hole. I guess they would justify it with the investigator's egoism and determination to lock her up without any hard evidence. Actually if they'd checked that call log the show would be over in three episodes π
So true! Also, for the murder mission, why not wear the mask the whole time? Or at least when she's making her…
she went to murder the teen with her hair down, her DNA was about to be everywhere π I think it emphasized how unfit she was to be a murderer. She was just an eccentric art teacher after all (who was simply a fan of CSI but to be fair their cases have plot holes as well π)
This season is so much better than season 2 yet it has 8.1 as ratings........
I honestly don't think rating should be allowed before all episodes come out. Also sometimes you experience drama differently depending on whether you binge it or watch weekly
yes. In the webtoon she is only dating the rich CEO and gets pregnant with Junseo's baby to get him to marry her…
I think it was barely possible due to the character changes they made when it comes to main trio. Webtoon AhJin is depicted as plain evil and I haven't emphatised with her since her father's death. I forgot to mention the way she got Junseo to sleep with her - they were in little to no contact situation so she sent him the DNA test which confirmed who his real father was (he didn't know until then) and that was on his adoptive father's death anniversary. He was broken and went to her for consolation and she used his state to sleep with him. That was the most ruthless thing she's done up to that point. I think the director said they wanted to make drama AhJin more empathetic and human so maybe this stuff didn't fit their intentions? Also the huge plot point was Mun Do Hyuk's infertility which wasn't ever mentioned in the drama. I also understand the webtoon readers' dismay, dramas are always compared to their original content anyway π both are good in their own way and neither are without flaws. We got two versions to enjoy π π» I recommend you to read the webtoon sometimes in your free time, it's only 60 chapters
The first part was quite faithfully adapted so it doesn't spark much debate. When it comes to Longstar entertainment…
so the drama was a solid 8.5-9 for me. I loved the acting, music and production. The colour palette was fitting as well. There were flaws in writing and pacing for the last 2-3 episodes. although they certainly made Jun Seo's character more unlikable, they made me change my attitude towards AhJin quite often, which wasn't the case in the webtoon
can someone spoile the ending of the webtoon please. I guess from the comment section that in this drama they…
yes. In the webtoon she is only dating the rich CEO and gets pregnant with Junseo's baby to get him to marry her and plans to abort the baby as soon as they're married. The CEO finds out but likes how cunning she is so he agrees to get married so she could run some of his companies and also abort the baby. But Junseo also finds out about all of this and it makes the revelation documentary that airs at the same time as the awards ceremony just like in the drama, except in webtoon he also admits to his faults and JaeOh never dies. The CEO then breaks off the engagement and AhJin tries to jump off the bridge to ruin JunSeo but JaeOh stops her and they fly to Hong Kong where she gives birth to a daughter and they live together. After a while she marries some rich guy and leaves her baby to jaeoh. But the guy's daughter hates her and one day pushes her down the stairs and her face is permanently ruined so she gets surgery. Fast forward few years later JunSeo is having a fan meeting signing his new book when a little girl approaches him and asks for an autograph for her mum, Baek Ah Jin. Junseo then realises it's his daughter and runs outside only to see AhJin leaving with the girl, which is her final revenge on her last X, JunSeo. His daughter will never know of his existence while he would always be haunted by the two of them
just finished reading the webtoon so here are my two cents
The first part was quite faithfully adapted so it doesn't spark much debate. When it comes to Longstar entertainment storyline I honestly prefer the way drama handled it. From CEO's involvement in covering up her actors' crimes to Rena's expanded role and "redemption arc" and finally AhJin's relationships with InGang's family - everything was more detailed and (in my opinion) had more depth than its webtoon version. Especially depicting InGang's mental health struggles and AhJin's relationships with his grandma - the part that humanised her the most. Mind you, this was deemed the slowest part of the series but I think it would feel even slower if they'd followed it more closely. I'm quite torn when it comes to the last part of the story. I liked that they expanded CEO Moon's role and made it darker. Then again, in the webtoon this is AhJin at her highest, smartest and most ruthless. In the drama this becomes her lowest point as she falls victim to Moon's schemes. I guess this was another attempt at humanising her by giving her a psychotic manipulative equal. Baek Ah Jin was extremely smart and knew what kind of man he was (since he had all the information on her and made all those slander articles disappear) so she deducted marrying him was the best option for her survival (and also rise). But I think it was a bit out of character for her to actually drink anything she was given in that house (knowing what a psycho he was). When it comes to Junseo and JaeOh's characters, I thought that their romantic feelings towards AhJin were way more obvious in the drama. The webtoon downplayed them until the certain point. I also didn't find JunSeo that possessive or obsessed with AhJin in the webtoon. Sure, she was guilt tripping him all the time so he felt the constant urge to "save her" but I think he wasn't as narcissistic as he was depicted in the drama. He was her enabler and punching bag until the moment she decided to kill their baby AND he admitted to his faults publicly as well. That said, I think his character changes caused the ending changes at some extent. I kinda wish they'd kept the pregnancy storyline because it mirrored JunSeo's birth perfectly - a child of affair born to secure wealth. It also reflects AhJin's father trying to extort her to gain money. ALSO her step daughter pushing her down the stairs partially reflects her mother's death in the beginning!
The revenge arc got short in general, everything happens within 5 minutes. I don't mind all the backstories, in fact I enjoy them, but revenge execution time is being cut short
True, her backstory wasn't really explored. We know she was orphaned at a young age but they say nothing more of it. Depends how young she was, she could've been 6 but she could've also been like 17? It remains unclear, they obviously didn't mean for it to play a big role in the story. Anyway I agree with you, her choice of actions annoyed me a lot as well π I just thought they intended it to be that way rather than plot holes. I also think the actors made it better for me. Not sure how it would turn out with different people
Someone in the comments highlighted that the police didn't check her dead husband's call history and to me it was the biggest plot hole. I guess they would justify it with the investigator's egoism and determination to lock her up without any hard evidence. Actually if they'd checked that call log the show would be over in three episodes π
I kinda wish they'd kept the pregnancy storyline because it mirrored JunSeo's birth perfectly - a child of affair born to secure wealth. It also reflects AhJin's father trying to extort her to gain money. ALSO her step daughter pushing her down the stairs partially reflects her mother's death in the beginning!