Producers are experts at draining all the life out of BLs, one forced "straight" story at a time
Sorry but what do you mean forced "straight" story? You mean they should only have bl couples - or was there no straight couple in webtoon (just found out about it.) Started watching this and loving mood and series so far - but only on episode 2
u sure we watched the same first episode? 💔(i respect your opinion tho!! you're free to keep watching it or…
i enjoy the banter and teasing. I did love your comment actually. Its so boring when everyone likes show the and just repeats the same thing. Maybe we can convince you to think about becoming a hate watcher ........ and posting comments to bewilder, annoy, amuse, or upset.
But you are right to drop - there are many other good shows so no point in wasting your time away
u sure we watched the same first episode? 💔(i respect your opinion tho!! you're free to keep watching it or…
lol I fully expected to dislike the show as i had watched TNP (same company) and then when i started watching this i was thinking to myself how cute is Namping and then the story dragged me in and then I also saw Khem so here we are.
TOTALLY!!It doesn't make sense, especially when episode 1 has a 9. Where do they get that the series deserves…
My pleasure. I was also surprised that everyone could view lists in so much detail.
I have seen users give 90% of the shows they watch a 10. I vote subjectively (not as critic) - but limit the 10 to shows I really loved watching or made me feel or think something. Like I know that Between Us does not deserve a 10 but love the story and couple and how it made me feel.
I do give 1 but its very personal - like I really hated something about it. -It wasted my time promising a good story and ending a lakorn (i should hate myself for falling for it and i have), - stereotyped ethnicities/religions -if an actor supported genocide etc - i vote against actor.
Its strange when people vote 1 for shows they are viewing and have seen just 1 episode and still deciding. To me a 1 is very personal and strong dislike. Its not indifference.
TOTALLY!!It doesn't make sense, especially when episode 1 has a 9. Where do they get that the series deserves…
Click on my user name and it will take you to my profile page. On the left hand side there is a big picture - mine says "1 " (yours says R) and below it there is a bar saying : "Askas List". (There are three dots and lines) Click on that bar and you can see how others rate shows.
Its interesting to see how people vote and what they say. If you rated this show a 10 or a 1 then you are either a fan or antifan. A lot of people give shows 10 very generously - which is fine, But you can also see who the haters are. Its problematic when the account is new -that shows manipulation with 10s or 1s.
It took me a while to figure it out as others talked about it.
TOTALLY!!It doesn't make sense, especially when episode 1 has a 9. Where do they get that the series deserves…
I know I didnt like TNP but if you look at my ratings for Cutie Pie they are a 6 and a 7. I am biased against TNP (production, crazy fandom) but I dont hate ZNN - I just did not like them in TNP. Funny that I was expecting to not like Khemjira as well.
I watched the episodes in about 5 minutes - skipping through most and stopping to watch the supporting couples.
POINT1: "Not wanting to bring it openly here, but I need to bring a point: isn't it what some fans from Khemjira are doing with just 1 episode?"
Its fine to be open and to challenge - I agree 100% that a lot of fans are giving Khemjira a 10 and so are lots of the reviews after just 1 episode. It doesn't deserve a 10 - but its personal taste and bias. Some fans give everything they like a 10. I would give something a 10 if it hits the right spot for me even if its not brilliant (Between Us - loved it and couple). The thing is that for TNP - a lot of NEW ACCOUNTS with no history gave TNP a 10.
I am open enough to admit that i have rated Khemjira a 9 (because others rating it low) but will adjust it a bit lower in 8s I think if it maintains quality.
POINT2: " TNP barely started and haters were down rating the series non-stop. " I did not know that TNP was being hated . Why was there such a strong dislike and which fandoms hated TNP to downvote it? When TNP started most people were loving the show and the ratings were around 8.4 so thats whey I wasn't aware.
I didn't pay much attention to TNP because I find the topic of royalty cringe. I would have ignored TNP and not watched it BUT i started watching it because i become interested in the ratings and behaviour of fans. There was an article on reddit discussing how TNP fans were downrating RESTART. As a financial and data analyst I started counting ratings etc. And i started disliking the TNP fans so i was biased.
POINT3 I admit i came across angry or aggressive and will try tone it down.
I dont understand fandoms so well so initially I thought TNP fans would like Khemjira because they are on the same team so to speak. How wrong i was.
I watched the episodes in about 5 minutes - skipping through most and stopping to watch the supporting couples.
I agree that my analysis was only based on certain limited metrics.
Reasons for investing differ and there are so many other factors that I could not consider which would make it very viable project And it may be a very profitable project for the company. (I hope it is)
The ratings suck but I saw a post on reddit and about show - seems to be doing well. "... Khemjira a *smash hit* in soc media trends, it's a ratings hit with One31 network.."
u sure we watched the same first episode? 💔(i respect your opinion tho!! you're free to keep watching it or…
some people are ridiculous in what they find to complain about. Its like complaining to a chef that the food actually tastes good - like thats their job. It proves you cant please anyone.
I watched the episodes in about 5 minutes - skipping through most and stopping to watch the supporting couples.
I haven't really experienced fandom as such. I enjoy the banter but I think its unfair when they manipulate measures that affect investment performances of projects. Particularly if its a small company
Although I have been negative about TNP I had always wanted Domundi to do well. Industry needs good competition.
TOTALLY!!It doesn't make sense, especially when episode 1 has a 9. Where do they get that the series deserves…
Sorry - I am actually enjoying the points you raise and having a discussion with you. I was trying to understand your logic and not to come across as attacking you
I watched the episodes in about 5 minutes - skipping through most and stopping to watch the supporting couples.
Despite my disagreements with you I am enjoying the discussion.
PERSONAL BIAS People given reviews based on bias and subjectivity and perception. Despite my bias, I did not rate this show a 1. You rate anything ZNN a 10. And shows competing with them low.
INVESTMENT DECISIONS I am a financial analyst - so its in my capacity to give professional investment advice based on principles of returns, risk, costs. I don't have most the numbers, but nether do you to determine if it was a sound investment. One of the key things in investing is diversification. In this project they put a lot of eggs in one basket. Khemjira is expensive as well. I dont know if it will pay off. I can only speak about principles and these two production cost a lot.
TNP RATINGS MANIPULATION - I COUNTED THE REVIEWS ON A CERTAIN DATE. MOST WERE A 10. What I stated was FACT. But it was not 11 pages of reviews of a 10 after a single episode, If you read my comments on Khemjira I have also stated that fans on Khemjira gave it a 10 (Its very visible on IMDB)
REVIEWS FOR TNP If you look at the latest reviews for TNP you can see that they are extremely negative. The reviews from Pages 4- 17 are a 10 after 1 episode.
is it because people don't like the horror elements?
I dont think so. If that was the case they would not watch it. I hate war dramas or violence and avoid them so I would not vote. If I watched, I would vote on how much i enjoyed it (not much) but give it credit for what it did right.
TOTALLY!!It doesn't make sense, especially when episode 1 has a 9. Where do they get that the series deserves…
Each to their own, but most people wont rate it a 1 if they have a wait and see attitude. 1 is a rating I would expect to see from a hater (unless there was a good reason it deserves a 1). They may wait . Its your prerogative to hate the show and to rate it a 1.
TOTALLY!!It doesn't make sense, especially when episode 1 has a 9. Where do they get that the series deserves…
I understand you may not like the genre but to give this a 1 indicates a strong dislike, That it must have done something to really upset you,
If i give a show 1 its because it wasted my time promising a good story and ending a lakorn (i should hate myself for falling for it), or if it stereotyped ethnicities/religions or if an actor supported genocide etc So its personal for me.
I watched the episodes in about 5 minutes - skipping through most and stopping to watch the supporting couples.
You have a point about comparing and not starting fanwars.
The reason that I compared it was because its done by the same company - not once imagining that fans from TNP would feel that another by Domundi (same family) would be seen as being its rival. The same company that financed TNP and promotes ZNN.
Atleast acting is not awkward & unbearable like your sky or other Thai bl’s na. For me,the actors in this…
I agree that I never noticed the acting being awkward /unbearable . It didnt make me pay much attention to it and that is a good sign. It was competent.
You mean they should only have bl couples - or was there no straight couple in webtoon (just found out about it.)
Started watching this and loving mood and series so far - but only on episode 2
But you are right to drop - there are many other good shows so no point in wasting your time away
I have seen users give 90% of the shows they watch a 10. I vote subjectively (not as critic) - but limit the 10 to shows I really loved watching or made me feel or think something. Like I know that Between Us does not deserve a 10 but love the story and couple and how it made me feel.
I do give 1 but its very personal - like I really hated something about it.
-It wasted my time promising a good story and ending a lakorn (i should hate myself for falling for it and i have),
- stereotyped ethnicities/religions
-if an actor supported genocide etc - i vote against actor.
Its strange when people vote 1 for shows they are viewing and have seen just 1 episode and still deciding. To me a 1 is very personal and strong dislike. Its not indifference.
On the left hand side there is a big picture - mine says "1 " (yours says R) and below it there is a bar saying : "Askas List". (There are three dots and lines) Click on that bar and you can see how others rate shows.
Its interesting to see how people vote and what they say. If you rated this show a 10 or a 1 then you are either a fan or antifan. A lot of people give shows 10 very generously - which is fine, But you can also see who the haters are. Its problematic when the account is new -that shows manipulation with 10s or 1s.
It took me a while to figure it out as others talked about it.
I am biased against TNP (production, crazy fandom) but I dont hate ZNN - I just did not like them in TNP.
Funny that I was expecting to not like Khemjira as well.
Its fine to be open and to challenge - I agree 100% that a lot of fans are giving Khemjira a 10 and so are lots of the reviews after just 1 episode. It doesn't deserve a 10 - but its personal taste and bias. Some fans give everything they like a 10. I would give something a 10 if it hits the right spot for me even if its not brilliant (Between Us - loved it and couple).
The thing is that for TNP - a lot of NEW ACCOUNTS with no history gave TNP a 10.
I am open enough to admit that i have rated Khemjira a 9 (because others rating it low) but will adjust it a bit lower in 8s I think if it maintains quality.
POINT2: " TNP barely started and haters were down rating the series non-stop. "
I did not know that TNP was being hated . Why was there such a strong dislike and which fandoms hated TNP to downvote it?
When TNP started most people were loving the show and the ratings were around 8.4 so thats whey I wasn't aware.
I didn't pay much attention to TNP because I find the topic of royalty cringe. I would have ignored TNP and not watched it BUT i started watching it because i become interested in the ratings and behaviour of fans. There was an article on reddit discussing how TNP fans were downrating RESTART.
As a financial and data analyst I started counting ratings etc. And i started disliking the TNP fans so i was biased.
POINT3
I admit i came across angry or aggressive and will try tone it down.
I dont understand fandoms so well so initially I thought TNP fans would like Khemjira because they are on the same team so to speak. How wrong i was.
Reasons for investing differ and there are so many other factors that I could not consider which would make it very viable project And it may be a very profitable project for the company. (I hope it is)
"... Khemjira a *smash hit* in soc media trends, it's a ratings hit with One31 network.."
https://www.reddit.com/r/boyslove/comments/1mrh5gp/not_only_is_khemjira_a_smash_hit_in_soc_media/
Its like complaining to a chef that the food actually tastes good - like thats their job.
It proves you cant please anyone.
I enjoy the banter but I think its unfair when they manipulate measures that affect investment performances of projects. Particularly if its a small company
Although I have been negative about TNP I had always wanted Domundi to do well. Industry needs good competition.
Again sorry if i come across as rude in my posts
I was trying to understand your logic and not to come across as attacking you
PERSONAL BIAS
People given reviews based on bias and subjectivity and perception.
Despite my bias, I did not rate this show a 1. You rate anything ZNN a 10. And shows competing with them low.
INVESTMENT DECISIONS
I am a financial analyst - so its in my capacity to give professional investment advice based on principles of returns, risk, costs. I don't have most the numbers, but nether do you to determine if it was a sound investment.
One of the key things in investing is diversification. In this project they put a lot of eggs in one basket. Khemjira is expensive as well. I dont know if it will pay off.
I can only speak about principles and these two production cost a lot.
TNP RATINGS MANIPULATION - I COUNTED THE REVIEWS ON A CERTAIN DATE. MOST WERE A 10.
What I stated was FACT. But it was not 11 pages of reviews of a 10 after a single episode, If you read my comments on Khemjira I have also stated that fans on Khemjira gave it a 10 (Its very visible on IMDB)
REVIEWS FOR TNP
If you look at the latest reviews for TNP you can see that they are extremely negative. The reviews from Pages 4- 17 are a 10 after 1 episode.
Im not into the fandom and find Thai bl couples concept/shipping rather cringe.
There are couples I like more that others.
If that was the case they would not watch it. I hate war dramas or violence and avoid them so I would not vote. If I watched, I would vote on how much i enjoyed it (not much) but give it credit for what it did right.
1 is a rating I would expect to see from a hater (unless there was a good reason it deserves a 1). They may wait .
Its your prerogative to hate the show and to rate it a 1.
If i give a show 1 its because it wasted my time promising a good story and ending a lakorn (i should hate myself for falling for it), or if it stereotyped ethnicities/religions or if an actor supported genocide etc
So its personal for me.
The reason that I compared it was because its done by the same company - not once imagining that fans from TNP would feel that another by Domundi (same family) would be seen as being its rival.
The same company that financed TNP and promotes ZNN.
It was competent.