MY's attraction to JBZ began even before their fake relationship. However, JBZ was the first to trust MY. During…
Ah, yes, I do agree that her interest was piqued by realising he had more depth. She kinda admits that to 27 when he chews her out on believing that JBZ didn't poison her.
Around what episode is that? I keep relegating the faking it to fairly early on, since they both are aware they're playing a game with the other.
i agree that he fell first but i think that they both had already fallen for each other before xunmings illusion.…
Yeah, I didn't explain the paradox with JBZ's feelings well as I focused on other things. My bad. I agree with you. My contention was that he has two contrasting "experiences" that make him both naive and self-wise at the same time. One is his lack of romantic love experience, and thus the loneliness (due to aforementioned horrible upbringing) which the granny and Buxiu can't fill, so when MY alternately love bombs him and shows genuine affection/care, he interprets it from the perspective of "haven't had this before, it's nice". Which is coupled with that postive experience with BYL: to a point MY does mirror that after all, it's the romance angle that she presents that is the difference. Hence why he is open to trust, trusting MY, and falling first. He's thus wise enough to recognise his feelings, but a bit naive about how it could backfire given he can't successfully read MY.
As for MY, I also agree. I wrote a few days ago in her defence about how her feelings are mixed up because her trauma is centred on usefulness and how that is very literally tied to her identity: even her initial relationship with JBZ relies on how useful she is to him and his plans. Hence why she is very hesitant to feel anything for him, then express that when she does, let alone trust the guy regardless. Given she's also dying (at a faster rate than he is anyway), it's not hard to see why one of them is more open than the other.
MY's attraction to JBZ began even before their fake relationship. However, JBZ was the first to trust MY. During…
I'm not convinced by your first statement since she firmly believed JBZ was a womaniser who fatally poisoned her. But yes, he does start trusting her since he has less facts on her than she has on him. And he does fall first too since she's presenting a level of honesty in helping him which infers the love she says she has. But he's not fully into it until after the fox boy incident. He planned to use her to lure Xun Ming out, so his love wasn't total. Experiencing those fake memories seems to have been the final hit, coupled with her breaking that illusion and stopping herself from stabbing him, that gets him into the "I legit want to marry her" territory.
MY's situation is different, and I agree, she's suppressing whatever feelings she has, but how aware of them she is seems debatable. JBZ said in ep 26 (i think) that he believes her to have been genuine in saving him out of love from Xun Ming. Probably true. But how much she recognised it... She is surprised by the bridge and rock thing, and she promptly goes into his spirit well for her cure when she has a chance. Her death clock blinds her a bit more, I think, than conscious suppression. She does quickly wise up, though, due to recognising he is more genuine than she thought.
1. Will the leads get power boosts to Perfect Stage or whatever, of cultivation after being cured? The bad guys implied that the double dose lets you level up a lot. It would be interesting to see it happen in the tournament.
2. I think JBZ falls first partly because of his experience of loneliness and lack of any meaningful love, which ends up coupled with what happens in Xun Ming's illusion. JBZ gets hit with XM's intense love and then the grief of losing it when he re-enacts it. In turn MY actually only gets hit with fake love and MXL's resentment, so she's less aware of her own feelings and hence why she falls slower.
It's highly likely that SL/CY tells Ming Xin prior to the ceremony since they're teaming up. There isn't another…
In the trailer, they meet in the forest, or so it really looks like. It's entirely possible they're both playing/using each other, since Ming Xin is allied with his dad too. In either case, not sure I see Ming Xin getting out of either alliance options with intact power after whatever deadly upgrade he got.
✋Can I join? Do we have jackets and a meeting place?I am interested if he will be the actual big bad, or if…
Get me a boat and some wine, lol
Hmm. I am curious if anyone else is aware that the ingredients need to be melded together with cultivation. They make no mention of this when the book is decoded, though that first guy JBZ got revenge on clearly knew since it piqued JBZ's interest. Whether MQB passed that tidbit onto bad emperor guy... I dunno that he would. Seemed like he would have wanted to keep that as an ace. SL/CY never mentions it either. Shifu might know given who he likely is, but I expect he's keeping that close as well.
Oh dang i just realised that situ ling has the key ingredient of GMD. I think I know why min yi is forced to marry…
Given that she doesn't need it though, maybe she plans to run with it once she gets it, or realises that JBZ will be lured in anyway and that's how she gets it to him? Or it's a scheme beforehand and they're playing SL in reverse?
Hopefully that is the case.. JBZ doesn't seem to be the kind of person who wud readily go back to Yaoguang mountain…
That's my thinking too. If he'd been raised there, he would have had the same hard time as SL/CY did without veins, so it's not like finding his family is going to really make him happy. Mother gave him up for power, a half-brother who would have made his life hell, and a dad who apparently noticed absolutely NOTHING. [side-eying the hell out of this cameo emperor btw at this point]
On top of this, the Empress/his real mum abused his replacement, MY, her whole life into the perfect prince, a treatment JBZ would have gotten too if he'd had a vein. Not to mention that he will likely learn what the Empress did to the person he now loves most. He isn't going to like mummy one bit, and he already doesn't like Ming Xin.
If anything does a number on him, and will make him madder, is that he and MY have been connected by fate since literal birth, and they both were going to end up suffering regardless of which position they were in. JBZ was always going to be abused in some way. MY was always going to have nobody, since if she'd stayed with her birth parents/aunt, her clan would have gotten wiped out around her, and she'd be on the run from SL/CY's father and Mu Qibai. This may get both of them to mope a bit, and be distant, but it also seems like they'd suck it up given the realisation that fate was never going to be nice and yet they have each other.
MY and JBZ, guys please, just get the same room already, for everyone's sanity, including ours but especially Buxiu's. Also, perhaps, get some curiosity for the other mysteries you got handed the other day.
SL/CY... Prince Friendzone, there is a perfectly... as-crazy-as-you fox lady there who'll love you as psychotically as you like MY. Take the hint. I will however give you half a point for being smart enough to destroy that book before your dad got it. [Though the fact the fox lady got it so easily seems... deflating for the story a bit at this point].
Ming Xian has a stupid face that I wish to punch, repeatedly, that smug [insert Australian local term for 'friend' here that the rest of the world thinks is extremely rude]. I hope someone in the show fulfills this wish of mine. Oh, I don't think that mirror came from Ming Xin though; too easy, whatever the trailer suggests.
27, you're so cute, even when not currently in any form. And helpful. Have some dry fish, you perfect kitty for helping the plot along before anyone even needed it thanks to your kleptomania (which I expect of magpies rather than cats, but hey). Come back quick.
Tianji, you make a good empress. Also, good girl-buddy. I take back my thoughts.
**Extra spoilery based on bits of trailer vids** I wonder how she'll take it when she loses Ji Bozai to Yaoguang Mountain, but gains Ming Yi instead. A female veteran who has won the tourney 7 times and the war god she once wanted to beat so badly. Given the feminism Ming Yi's bolstered in her, it might go rather well.
That said, maybe it's a conspiracy they all hatch for the tourney? They all want to bring down the poison conspirators, maybe they'll use the eventual switch to flush it all out into the public?
OK, it looks like in the preview of tomorrow’s episode that she ends up confronting her brother now we see her…
It's highly likely that SL/CY tells Ming Xin prior to the ceremony since they're teaming up. There isn't another way that it could come out unless the Empress is in on it and she told him. If that's the case then Empress is apparently playing 4D chess.
Dear lord I want Ming Xin to be smacked down a peg already; he barely comes on screen and yet I hate his smug, stupid, grinning face. He clearly isn't bright and thinks so highly of himself; so gods please let MY/MX actually beat his arse at some point soon, I don't want her to be saved from this smug (insert friendly Australian term here that every thinks is rude).
JBZ said he will find the truth himself, so wait we will probably have a flashback scene for the missing part…
I think JBZ might be a bit sus on shifu there honestly, but SL/CY is his bigger issue at this point.
MX needs to wonder how much shifu knows about widdle dragon girl, honestly. I would.
Then again, in this marrage: JBZ: *has many trust issues and multiple glaring clues that wife is in fact MX* "Eh, it's fine, it adds up. Well, it doesn't but damn if she isn’t cute, clever and helpful. I'm in love". MX: *gets abused by mother, eventually gets told really specific info that should raise questions about her and hubby* "Eh, this is normal. Everyone has abusive parents. Well, that specific info wasn't sus at all. Well, it was, but all the curiosity I have is being relegated to my oddly cute husband over here..."
Ok, definitely teared up when Buxiu learned what happened to his buddy (boyfriend).
Oh come on, I wanted SL/CY to kill off his dad before he went completely nuts in his obsession. I get that a shred or kindness does wonders to a hugely abused person, but direct the psycho to the person responsible.
Meanwhile, dad has the whole rule the world plot with some array that sounds a bit... antithetical to his desire. Seriously, that array sounded like a doomsday weapon, not a takeover manual.
Definitely loved JBZ continuing to poke MX relentlessly because he seems to find it utterly attractive that his wife not only could kick his arse, but wanted to murder him at one point. That's true love 😍.
(There's something distinctly Potter-McGonagall about the pancake scene. MX's dealing with something serious in her mind, like being stuck in the barrier, and JBZ comes out of left field with "Have a pancake." Reminded me of the OoTP where McGonagall randomly tells an overthinking Harry to have a biscuit.)
JBZ said he will find the truth himself, so wait we will probably have a flashback scene for the missing part…
I guess they assume they're protecting her still. They're spirits, they can't know everything going on outside and perhaps the necessity of that info at this point. They also clearly couldn't tell she'd been healed already, so they didn't really need to give her the recipe at all beyond them believing maybe it should get out due to the Heavenly Grief everywhere.
What gets me is that they say this to MY, and MY is as obtuse as JBZ about the obvious significance of this glaring clue. (At least they're a match in overlooking the obvious, so well done there writers, lol)
Around what episode is that? I keep relegating the faking it to fairly early on, since they both are aware they're playing a game with the other.
As for MY, I also agree. I wrote a few days ago in her defence about how her feelings are mixed up because her trauma is centred on usefulness and how that is very literally tied to her identity: even her initial relationship with JBZ relies on how useful she is to him and his plans. Hence why she is very hesitant to feel anything for him, then express that when she does, let alone trust the guy regardless. Given she's also dying (at a faster rate than he is anyway), it's not hard to see why one of them is more open than the other.
But yes, he does start trusting her since he has less facts on her than she has on him. And he does fall first too since she's presenting a level of honesty in helping him which infers the love she says she has. But he's not fully into it until after the fox boy incident. He planned to use her to lure Xun Ming out, so his love wasn't total. Experiencing those fake memories seems to have been the final hit, coupled with her breaking that illusion and stopping herself from stabbing him, that gets him into the "I legit want to marry her" territory.
MY's situation is different, and I agree, she's suppressing whatever feelings she has, but how aware of them she is seems debatable. JBZ said in ep 26 (i think) that he believes her to have been genuine in saving him out of love from Xun Ming. Probably true. But how much she recognised it... She is surprised by the bridge and rock thing, and she promptly goes into his spirit well for her cure when she has a chance. Her death clock blinds her a bit more, I think, than conscious suppression. She does quickly wise up, though, due to recognising he is more genuine than she thought.
1. Will the leads get power boosts to Perfect Stage or whatever, of cultivation after being cured? The bad guys implied that the double dose lets you level up a lot. It would be interesting to see it happen in the tournament.
2. I think JBZ falls first partly because of his experience of loneliness and lack of any meaningful love, which ends up coupled with what happens in Xun Ming's illusion. JBZ gets hit with XM's intense love and then the grief of losing it when he re-enacts it. In turn MY actually only gets hit with fake love and MXL's resentment, so she's less aware of her own feelings and hence why she falls slower.
In either case, not sure I see Ming Xin getting out of either alliance options with intact power after whatever deadly upgrade he got.
Hmm.
I am curious if anyone else is aware that the ingredients need to be melded together with cultivation. They make no mention of this when the book is decoded, though that first guy JBZ got revenge on clearly knew since it piqued JBZ's interest. Whether MQB passed that tidbit onto bad emperor guy... I dunno that he would. Seemed like he would have wanted to keep that as an ace. SL/CY never mentions it either.
Shifu might know given who he likely is, but I expect he's keeping that close as well.
I am interested if he will be the actual big bad, or if it will be his dad, or just a bad-guy pile-up.
On top of this, the Empress/his real mum abused his replacement, MY, her whole life into the perfect prince, a treatment JBZ would have gotten too if he'd had a vein. Not to mention that he will likely learn what the Empress did to the person he now loves most. He isn't going to like mummy one bit, and he already doesn't like Ming Xin.
If anything does a number on him, and will make him madder, is that he and MY have been connected by fate since literal birth, and they both were going to end up suffering regardless of which position they were in. JBZ was always going to be abused in some way. MY was always going to have nobody, since if she'd stayed with her birth parents/aunt, her clan would have gotten wiped out around her, and she'd be on the run from SL/CY's father and Mu Qibai. This may get both of them to mope a bit, and be distant, but it also seems like they'd suck it up given the realisation that fate was never going to be nice and yet they have each other.
SL/CY... Prince Friendzone, there is a perfectly... as-crazy-as-you fox lady there who'll love you as psychotically as you like MY. Take the hint. I will however give you half a point for being smart enough to destroy that book before your dad got it. [Though the fact the fox lady got it so easily seems... deflating for the story a bit at this point].
Ming Xian has a stupid face that I wish to punch, repeatedly, that smug [insert Australian local term for 'friend' here that the rest of the world thinks is extremely rude]. I hope someone in the show fulfills this wish of mine. Oh, I don't think that mirror came from Ming Xin though; too easy, whatever the trailer suggests.
27, you're so cute, even when not currently in any form. And helpful. Have some dry fish, you perfect kitty for helping the plot along before anyone even needed it thanks to your kleptomania (which I expect of magpies rather than cats, but hey). Come back quick.
Tianji, you make a good empress. Also, good girl-buddy. I take back my thoughts.
**Extra spoilery based on bits of trailer vids**
I wonder how she'll take it when she loses Ji Bozai to Yaoguang Mountain, but gains Ming Yi instead. A female veteran who has won the tourney 7 times and the war god she once wanted to beat so badly. Given the feminism Ming Yi's bolstered in her, it might go rather well.
That said, maybe it's a conspiracy they all hatch for the tourney? They all want to bring down the poison conspirators, maybe they'll use the eventual switch to flush it all out into the public?
Dear lord I want Ming Xin to be smacked down a peg already; he barely comes on screen and yet I hate his smug, stupid, grinning face. He clearly isn't bright and thinks so highly of himself; so gods please let MY/MX actually beat his arse at some point soon, I don't want her to be saved from this smug (insert friendly Australian term here that every thinks is rude).
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MX needs to wonder how much shifu knows about widdle dragon girl, honestly. I would.
Then again, in this marrage:
JBZ: *has many trust issues and multiple glaring clues that wife is in fact MX* "Eh, it's fine, it adds up. Well, it doesn't but damn if she isn’t cute, clever and helpful. I'm in love".
MX: *gets abused by mother, eventually gets told really specific info that should raise questions about her and hubby* "Eh, this is normal. Everyone has abusive parents. Well, that specific info wasn't sus at all. Well, it was, but all the curiosity I have is being relegated to my oddly cute husband over here..."
Oh come on, I wanted SL/CY to kill off his dad before he went completely nuts in his obsession. I get that a shred or kindness does wonders to a hugely abused person, but direct the psycho to the person responsible.
Meanwhile, dad has the whole rule the world plot with some array that sounds a bit... antithetical to his desire. Seriously, that array sounded like a doomsday weapon, not a takeover manual.
Definitely loved JBZ continuing to poke MX relentlessly because he seems to find it utterly attractive that his wife not only could kick his arse, but wanted to murder him at one point. That's true love 😍.
(There's something distinctly Potter-McGonagall about the pancake scene. MX's dealing with something serious in her mind, like being stuck in the barrier, and JBZ comes out of left field with "Have a pancake." Reminded me of the OoTP where McGonagall randomly tells an overthinking Harry to have a biscuit.)
What gets me is that they say this to MY, and MY is as obtuse as JBZ about the obvious significance of this glaring clue. (At least they're a match in overlooking the obvious, so well done there writers, lol)