Enjoying this soooo much. Love how DX is just running circles around the politicians and screwing over his dad! Dad wanted to have an apoplexy right there as DX made that vow 😆 🤣 😂 Wonder if HSM realises who her dad's killer is... is it a long game or does she genuinely not know? Is she so strong because she's technically half human? If her father could reproduce as a spirit, can she?
I soooo love this about her. A FL who can back it up as she stands her ground is so rare!
I like that her power isn't being compromised either. Sure, she's using a lot, but it's proving how insanely strong she is. No matter how much DX worries, he's not quite grasping it. He is well-written too btw, the contrast between them and how they act in their own and each other's worlds, as well as towards each other... I do enjoy good writing
Exactly. Trauma is trauma, and her life of being abused and brainwashed, effectively, into being the perfect warrior…
😊 thanks. Notably, she doesn't actually trust him until she gets full confirmation in ep 11 that he didn't poison her. Hence her questioning a final time. It’s coincidentally at the same time he declares he trusts her (which he doesn't live up to, understandably, within a few days).
Unfortunately, we get blinded by God View as the audience. The things to remember are that: - he wasn't completely honest until the day before her attempt. More honest overall, but not complete - he has his own issues and traumas that make his trust conditional, whatever his feelings - apparently, despite knowing that the Heavenly Grief was mass produced, it never seemed to occur to Ji Bozai that someone other than himself might seek the GMD for the very legitimate reason of fulfilling its function as the cure. Even if Ming Yi and Ming Xian were separate people, he know Ming Xian got sabotaged by Mu Qibai and suddenly lost power... what could cause that I wonder? - Ji Bozai seems intent on both believing that all nobles suck and being deliberately ignorant of obvious truths that don't fit with what he wants to see. This is part of Ming Yi's POV of the situation up to her attempt. It informs her actions, however much love there is.
As much Ji Bozai has his own very valid and understandable reasons for acting his way, Ming Yi has hers. It's just easier to side with him because his past is more obviously tragic (and he's an adorably gorgeous green flag for the most part), whilst her secret is so big it gets in the way of their relationship when we all want them together.
My thoughts on MingYi never being able to tell the truth to Ji Bozai is...MingYi has lived a in a lie her whole…
Exactly. Trauma is trauma, and her life of being abused and brainwashed, effectively, into being the perfect warrior and prince, has left her with a constant need to please, and fear of what happens when she can't. Her experience has taught her love is transactional and conditional. Even if she finds it different with Ji Bozai, unfortunately, it started as transactional and conditional. Every time he finds out a lie, he lashes out momentarily, even if he does forgive her. (He has every right to be hurt and upset, btw, not saying he's wrong) She's already been abandoned by her mother, and her father, simply for losing and being unable to be what they want. Now, she can't be the person Ji Bozai wants. Even if he gave her the GMD, she's still Ming Xian, and still has to go home.
On top of this, Ji Bozai innocently, but unfortunately, ends up setting conditions and saying kind of the wrong thing even when he's also saying a right thing. The big condition is of course, the GMD - he trusts her so much because she never went after it. She tries to actually tell him the truth but backs off because he's already upset, or he's not listening properly and assumes he knows what she's trying to say. Ji Bozai also, unfortunately, because of his own trauma, tends to gaslight himself, or be selectively oblivious when he should probe/wonder on her identity. It was a bit obvious after a while, but he kinda wanted things to be true instead of getting the actual truth. She says a couple of things rather seriously to his face, but he prefers to put his own truth on it instead of listening to what she's said even though he's trying to be nice and assuring at the time. Further, as much he says he trusts her and doesn't care, he ultimately doesn't live by this statement when push comes to shove. Perfectly understandable and human, but it's enough of an explanation as to why Ming Yi hesitates.
Coupled with everything you've said, she's a tightly wound ball of trauma, fear, and guilt. Not the best decision making mindset, and one more liable to be the fall guy than not. After all this, the lie is easier because it's something she has control over. The truth isn't.
There are a few on their feed. All script form. They did film some, but you'd only get snippets from bts or paparazzi/fans who filmed from distance during production
1)is there love triangle? if there how much deep it is ?2)when do leads will be together3)is there any breakup?…
Don't know how much to spoil on some of these, so I'll be careful and yet offer info.
1. Not really. There is another interested party for FL, but it's clear he's hopeless though. 2. Depends. They feel something by ep 10, when they "marry", but it's reaaallly complicated. There's another marriage... ceremony of sorts where it's not happy, then they fall some more, making it more real. 3. There are two break-ups. Ep 23 and then ep 32. 4. Yes.
From which episode am I supposed to hate Situ Ling exactly? I'm at episode 27 and the only thing I've felt so…
I found him the pitifully irritating kind, or irritatingly pitiful. It alternated. Yeah, his history sucks, but he uses it to justify his feelings or hold up his delusions. You feel sorry for him for being abused, and even that the person he admires doesn't reciprocate. But, he's not respecting her autonomy. He's helping her and expecting something in return - his altruism has a price. When he doesn't get it, he refuses to accept. Yes, he needs a hug and therapist, but he also needs a slap.
1st - dead during torture 2nd & 3rd - died in Sunken Abyss when they’re trying to get the Bo clan recipe4th…
4th one got killed when he tried to take the Diwu tree and Chao Yuan tricked him.
But, I failed to notice the first time watching, and on the second I was like: number 3 clearly referred to the Emperor as "father" whilst with number 2. And I checked the cast list and there was another "Chao". It's just weird how they did not give him an intro blurb like other ones. But apparently, since he was in like 2 episodes, and gets vapourised by JBZ and ST/CY, he doesn't warrant it.
I guess it speaks to how they're the ultimate joke of the upper realms. Like, they're big bullies and racist as hell, yet three of them literally die underground in Jixing Abyss, taken out mainly by a "weakling" and nobody cares. Not even enough to acknowledge there was four of them
Did anyone else pick up on the fact that ST/CY had *FOUR* older brothers, not three, and one didn't even get intro writing? I mean, they were all basically cannon fodder, but still, imagine being that insignificant... ouch.
I dont understand why Ji hid the portrait that replaced the burned up master Bo portrait. This part I didn't understand.…
It was still Bo Yulan's portrait, it basically came back, this time with a new memory. Ji Bozai didn't want Ming Yi knowing it came back or what that memory is - she saw it burn through their bond, which he then severs. This leads her to believe he's mad about it all, and sells his lie to break up with her.
How the heck did Situ Ling become so sure that Ming Xian was Ming Yi? Just coz of her archery stance? Like he…
Because, that bow is Ming Xian's. It's not simply a signature move, that bow and it's appearance are distinctive. Ming Xian has other "crystal-like" constructs such as the spear and the dagger seen in episode one when she fights Ji Bozai. Only Ming Xian does this; no other person is shown doing it. Not to mention, the arrows are often created from "borrowed" power, like the energy from an object she gets from someone else. With Situ Ling, it was his armguard that she borrowed back in the past; in the instance he witnessed with Ming Yi, she uses Ruo Shui's hairpin the same way. Yaoguang power is also distinctively golden and fiery.
If only Ming Xian does it, then Ming Yi has to be Ming Xian.
It’s understandable that most people think he turned evil because he couldn't stop loving her, but I see it…
Best explanation of SL/CY I've seen. A lot of the main cast are victims of the system of Hexu, just in different ways, or their outcomes are different. JBZ, ST and YX are foils of each other, but their histories and traits make them take different choices. Unlike JBZ, ST fails to become more than his suffering because when the choice comes to them, JBZ is motivated by love (for Bo Yulan), whilst ST is motivated by ambition to finally succeed. YX is motivated by both and actually manages to meld them.
MY has been literally raised IN a lie her whole life, and her life actually rides on keeping that lie. Not simply…
Exactly, they're both traumatised kids who don't know what they're doing.
I honestly don't blame either of them. She has her experiences which inform her choices, however much they start hurting. And he has his which explain why he's on guard even whilst trying to be open. They're not unjustified in how they react, their hypocrisies have solid reasoning, it's just sad that it's such a mess.
MY has been literally raised IN a lie her whole life, and her life actually rides on keeping that lie. Not simply…
You're welcome.
I do agree it's a factor about not making him choose, but I still feel that with her fears that she doesn't hold 100% faith in him giving it over either. How can she? He has lashed out before, even if he's forgiven her in a way. In her mind, it has to feel similar to the whole being lambasted and rejected for losing once - her people adored her until they didn't because she did one thing that really upset them. Her mother pushed her away. The GMD is JBZ's line in the sand, which he basically tells her in 22, so crossing that line in anyway is, in her mind, not going end well. She's already pushed him a lot with her lies after all.
Meanwhile, JBZ claims trust and yet doesn't actually fully live up to it. He's justified, don't get me wrong, but he wakes up cause he feels her emotional agony but doesn't probe much upon catching her. Or actually consider her opposing actions and words and figure out something is really off for several days at least. (This I feel is a fault of missing scenes honestly because there are a few that give context for why he might feel the way he does. The fact he finds her being carried by SL shortly afterwards makes him feel a bit doormatty to me, but again, he doesn't seem to think on it. The deleted scenes would fix some of this honestly)
I agree she is afraid too, but she was trying to summon courage and he seemed aware she wanted to say something big, but what he says in response isn’t as helpful as he might believe. Making the GMD a condition really hit her fear button, even if she kne she'd have to make a choice.
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I honestly would like to know what Ming Yi thought would happen if she married JBZ by Marriage Stone to get the heart imprint. Because, everyone and their cat seems to know that the Pond and the Stone have rules; very specific rules. Couples from all Six Realms can go there to do this. Ming Yi is clever, and it's not like she hadn't heard of the place before when 27 brings it up.
Yet, she acts like it's just a matter of tricking JBZ into loving her enough to marry her, and never considers that she has to actually love him back for it to work. You have to actually have love between you to form the stone bridge to cross the pond, and your love literally has to be pure/sincere for your names to be carved on that Stone, otherwise zappy time. (And neither were sincere; they both clearly do have love for each other at that point [hence, bridge] but she's lying about her identity and reasons for being there [understandable considering], and he's still keeping secrets, and not as willing to trust as he says [not without reason, but still]).
I've rewatched a few times and honestly can't fathom why she believed her plan would work without actual love on both their parts. It can't simply be that she doesn't understand love.
(Speaking of, JBZ himself wasn't wholly sincere either; he was still lying at the time too, just not as much, and not about his identity (as far as he knew; he admits to holding back a while later). I always find rewatching it a bit hypocritical on his part for being mad enough to lock her up. Yes, he can be angry, it's okay, but... Sir, you literally knew she was lying the moment you met her, and you've not been sincere that whole time; only since the fake marriage. Before that, you played her for a fool as much as she has you [and frankly, she hasn't accidentally gotten you endangered by your enemy's Netherbeast now has she?)]. You're also acting like she forced you to do this, when she was just as blindsided that day as you were. Climb down from the high horse a bit please. Not all the way, but some.)
Wonder if HSM realises who her dad's killer is... is it a long game or does she genuinely not know?
Is she so strong because she's technically half human? If her father could reproduce as a spirit, can she?
Notably, she doesn't actually trust him until she gets full confirmation in ep 11 that he didn't poison her. Hence her questioning a final time. It’s coincidentally at the same time he declares he trusts her (which he doesn't live up to, understandably, within a few days).
Unfortunately, we get blinded by God View as the audience. The things to remember are that:
- he wasn't completely honest until the day before her attempt. More honest overall, but not complete
- he has his own issues and traumas that make his trust conditional, whatever his feelings
- apparently, despite knowing that the Heavenly Grief was mass produced, it never seemed to occur to Ji Bozai that someone other than himself might seek the GMD for the very legitimate reason of fulfilling its function as the cure. Even if Ming Yi and Ming Xian were separate people, he know Ming Xian got sabotaged by Mu Qibai and suddenly lost power... what could cause that I wonder?
- Ji Bozai seems intent on both believing that all nobles suck and being deliberately ignorant of obvious truths that don't fit with what he wants to see.
This is part of Ming Yi's POV of the situation up to her attempt. It informs her actions, however much love there is.
As much Ji Bozai has his own very valid and understandable reasons for acting his way, Ming Yi has hers. It's just easier to side with him because his past is more obviously tragic (and he's an adorably gorgeous green flag for the most part), whilst her secret is so big it gets in the way of their relationship when we all want them together.
On top of this, Ji Bozai innocently, but unfortunately, ends up setting conditions and saying kind of the wrong thing even when he's also saying a right thing. The big condition is of course, the GMD - he trusts her so much because she never went after it. She tries to actually tell him the truth but backs off because he's already upset, or he's not listening properly and assumes he knows what she's trying to say. Ji Bozai also, unfortunately, because of his own trauma, tends to gaslight himself, or be selectively oblivious when he should probe/wonder on her identity. It was a bit obvious after a while, but he kinda wanted things to be true instead of getting the actual truth. She says a couple of things rather seriously to his face, but he prefers to put his own truth on it instead of listening to what she's said even though he's trying to be nice and assuring at the time. Further, as much he says he trusts her and doesn't care, he ultimately doesn't live by this statement when push comes to shove. Perfectly understandable and human, but it's enough of an explanation as to why Ming Yi hesitates.
Coupled with everything you've said, she's a tightly wound ball of trauma, fear, and guilt. Not the best decision making mindset, and one more liable to be the fall guy than not. After all this, the lie is easier because it's something she has control over. The truth isn't.
There are a few on their feed. All script form. They did film some, but you'd only get snippets from bts or paparazzi/fans who filmed from distance during production
Here's one from ep 19. The poster also has a few others, if you look through their feed.
1. Not really. There is another interested party for FL, but it's clear he's hopeless though.
2. Depends. They feel something by ep 10, when they "marry", but it's reaaallly complicated. There's another marriage... ceremony of sorts where it's not happy, then they fall some more, making it more real.
3. There are two break-ups. Ep 23 and then ep 32.
4. Yes.
But, I failed to notice the first time watching, and on the second I was like: number 3 clearly referred to the Emperor as "father" whilst with number 2. And I checked the cast list and there was another "Chao". It's just weird how they did not give him an intro blurb like other ones. But apparently, since he was in like 2 episodes, and gets vapourised by JBZ and ST/CY, he doesn't warrant it.
I guess it speaks to how they're the ultimate joke of the upper realms. Like, they're big bullies and racist as hell, yet three of them literally die underground in Jixing Abyss, taken out mainly by a "weakling" and nobody cares. Not even enough to acknowledge there was four of them
If only Ming Xian does it, then Ming Yi has to be Ming Xian.
I honestly don't blame either of them. She has her experiences which inform her choices, however much they start hurting. And he has his which explain why he's on guard even whilst trying to be open. They're not unjustified in how they react, their hypocrisies have solid reasoning, it's just sad that it's such a mess.
Enjoy 26, btw, and beyond.
I do agree it's a factor about not making him choose, but I still feel that with her fears that she doesn't hold 100% faith in him giving it over either. How can she? He has lashed out before, even if he's forgiven her in a way. In her mind, it has to feel similar to the whole being lambasted and rejected for losing once - her people adored her until they didn't because she did one thing that really upset them. Her mother pushed her away. The GMD is JBZ's line in the sand, which he basically tells her in 22, so crossing that line in anyway is, in her mind, not going end well.
She's already pushed him a lot with her lies after all.
Meanwhile, JBZ claims trust and yet doesn't actually fully live up to it. He's justified, don't get me wrong, but he wakes up cause he feels her emotional agony but doesn't probe much upon catching her. Or actually consider her opposing actions and words and figure out something is really off for several days at least.
(This I feel is a fault of missing scenes honestly because there are a few that give context for why he might feel the way he does. The fact he finds her being carried by SL shortly afterwards makes him feel a bit doormatty to me, but again, he doesn't seem to think on it. The deleted scenes would fix some of this honestly)
I agree she is afraid too, but she was trying to summon courage and he seemed aware she wanted to say something big, but what he says in response isn’t as helpful as he might believe. Making the GMD a condition really hit her fear button, even if she kne she'd have to make a choice.
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And yes, I have seen how hot he is, so I don't blame her 😂
Yet, she acts like it's just a matter of tricking JBZ into loving her enough to marry her, and never considers that she has to actually love him back for it to work. You have to actually have love between you to form the stone bridge to cross the pond, and your love literally has to be pure/sincere for your names to be carved on that Stone, otherwise zappy time. (And neither were sincere; they both clearly do have love for each other at that point [hence, bridge] but she's lying about her identity and reasons for being there [understandable considering], and he's still keeping secrets, and not as willing to trust as he says [not without reason, but still]).
I've rewatched a few times and honestly can't fathom why she believed her plan would work without actual love on both their parts. It can't simply be that she doesn't understand love.
(Speaking of, JBZ himself wasn't wholly sincere either; he was still lying at the time too, just not as much, and not about his identity (as far as he knew; he admits to holding back a while later). I always find rewatching it a bit hypocritical on his part for being mad enough to lock her up. Yes, he can be angry, it's okay, but... Sir, you literally knew she was lying the moment you met her, and you've not been sincere that whole time; only since the fake marriage. Before that, you played her for a fool as much as she has you [and frankly, she hasn't accidentally gotten you endangered by your enemy's Netherbeast now has she?)]. You're also acting like she forced you to do this, when she was just as blindsided that day as you were. Climb down from the high horse a bit please. Not all the way, but some.)