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Nah. I will still be doing it, i am fooling myself when i said that. It was the frustrated side of me who was talking. But i will not try to convince people to like the drama anymore and just limit the discussions to people who has similar opinions with mine.

So we will get Kiyoi POV. This is crucial info , thank you for mentioning this.
I don`t need anything more, i am getting much more happier.
At least people will come to understand Kiyoi better, because it can be really tiring seeing people misunderstanding him all the time.
Well, is his fault too, he want to keep his made up cool imagine while also expecting Hira to see the real him and stop his idolization on him. He is "digging his own hole"

Yes. But unfortunately things are as they are. We can`t convince people to see the drama in the same way as us. And honestly, i am spending a lot of my time in this page, because i want to make as many people as i can, to understand the characters and the story, but i am getting tired already, so i will not going to do it anymore. In the end who will appreciate and like this kind of story will love the drama, and people who don`t enjoy this kind of story will not like the drama, not matter how much we try to convince them. I also have some dramas that i can`t like as much as i like Utsukushii kare.

I will search for it, and send it to you immediately when i find it. Hopefully with even more good quality than the other one, since it could have been better. Thank you again for doing this for us. We can't thank you enough.

Another hilarious thing is Kiyoi POV , i hope we will get it.
One of the biggest thing i was able to really understand well from listening to the audio drama is how funny and hilarious Kiyoi POV is. And when you find out from listening to his POV, that all the stupid things he has done/said and he is doing is because he feels really embarassed and is not willing to concede and initiate things when it comes to Hira if he don`t have another choice. This is really funny. Poor baby, it was very obvious for me that he has to really love Hira for him to be willing to concede that much in the end to make Hira his boyfriend and in general when it comes to his relationship with Hira. Hira gets really lucky in the end by managing to get Kiyoi

I agree, i didn't read the novel, you know better. Thank you for clarifying this. I wrote it like this because i read about this from someone, but don't remember from who, so since you read the novel, you know better. But basically based on what you wrote, is still a coincidence. If Koyama brother was not Kiyoi coworker, he would not have meet Hira, even if he intervined a bit. But this detail makes it better, because Kiyoi is actively making the meeting happening. I am so curious about the next ep.

She tought that he is based on the preview for ep 4, but i clarified that based on the novel Hira is not and will not be Koyama boyfriend. Read my answer to Pirado.

I will reveal something about the novel if you want to know. Don't read if you don't want to know anything.



It's a coincidence Kiyoi appeared in Hira life again actually. Is happening because Koyama brother and Kiyoi has some friends in common and they attend the same show.
Koyama is not and will not become Hira boyfriend. All is a misunderstanding from the part of Koyama brother. Nobody will be cheating. Koyama will be trying quite actively to pursuit Hira, but Hira has not given him an answer before he will meet Kiyoi again, after which will end all Koyama hope to get Hira.
Koyama brother heard from Koyama that he likes Hira and he assumed that they are together, but they are not. But i think the misunderstanding from everyone will be cleared next ep too, because it don't last long in the novel. Even Kiyoi thinks Hira is dating Koyama, but Hira will clear this personally. Hira does consider if he should accept Koyama before Kiyoi comes back in his life, but he won't become his boyfriend before he will meet Kiyoi again.

EDIT:
Momomotaromo has clarified that while is still a coincidence that Koyama brother is Kiyoi coworker, Kiyoi did actively intervened in him meeting with Hira by suggesting Koyama brother to invite his brother and his "boyfriend" to the show.

Yes. Between ep 3 and next ep ( basically after graduation from high school and university life period), it will be a time skip which it was discussed previously to be around 2 years, maybe 3 at most ( based on the novel this is the most likely interval of time) after which the characters will meet again. After graduation, Hira and Kiyoi will not keep in touch, so the time skip involves the time until they meet again.

Yes. I noticed that too, and i tought wow that was cute.

Yes. In my opinion, stwsry translation is the most accurate. They are a lot of scenes in the ep where stwsry subs are more accurate than the subs in GagaOOLala
I don`t know if you watched the ep 3 from GaGaOOLala also , but there is one scene where the translation is really wrong.
I`m referring to the part that takes place between Hira talking to the teacher and him going to find Kiyoi in that empty classroom ( after Shirota throw the soda on Kiyoi). That translation in GagaOOLala where we are told Hira toughts don`t fit the personality of Hira in the novel and even the development of Hira in the drama.
This incident with the soda, don`t have that big of a change in Hira, not to the point that he felt that he become more powerful or confident in himself.
I was frustrated by it, even without stwsry subs i felt something was off about that part.
The part below is a minimal spoiler from the novel, so if you don`t want to know don`t read.

Hira low self-esteem will unfortunately continue for a long time, it won`t get better because of an incident like this, ( it takes a lot of time for this to get better for Hira).
Hira thinks that meeting Kiyoi and falling in love with him, and wanting to be good to him has saved him. Hira was a really sad and lonely person at the moment when he meet Kiyoi ( based on the novel). I don`t want to reveal more but Hira couldn`t find a reason to continue living before meeting Kiyoi, so he felt Kiyoi has given him purpose to continue leaving, this is why Hira like is mixed with huge admiration and worship in a way. So especially for this part, the translation of stwsry is the most accurate.

After watching the ep you subbed, i have to say that they are a lot of scenes in the ep where your subs are more accurate than the subs in GagaOOLala, and i am serious about it.
I observed this in the part that takes place between Hira talking to the teacher and him going to find Kiyoi in the empty classroom ( after Shirota throw the soda on Kiyoi). That translation in GagaOOLaLa where we are told Hira toughts don`t fit the personality of Hira in the novel and even the development of Hira in the drama. Your translation even though is not perfect is the most accurate.
This incident with the soda, don`t have that big of a change in Hira, not to the point that he felt that he become more powerful or confident in himself.
I was frustrated by it, even without your subs i felt something was off about that part.
The part below is a minimal spoiler from the novel, so if you don`t want to know don`t read.


Hira low self-esteem will unfortunately continue for a long time, it won`t get better because of an incident like this, ( it takes a lot of time for this to get better for Hira).
Hira thinks that meeting Kiyoi and falling in love with him, and wanting to be good to him has saved him. Hira was a really sad and lonely person at the moment when he meet Kiyoi ( based on the novel). I don`t want to reveal more but Hira couldn`t find a reason to continue living before meeting Kiyoi, so he felt Kiyoi has given him purpose to continue leaving, this is why Hira like is mixed with huge admiration and worship in a way. So because of this, your translation is the most accurate.

Yes. This is so true. This drama has a story that feels really new from a lot of aspects , with characters that are rarely encountered in other BL dramas in my opinion, and we have to thank this to the source material ( novel) and the production team of the drama who tried to adapt everything as close as they could, while also keeping things realistic.
We are given access to Hira toughts, the characters are really flawed and feel real, they make mistakes a lot of times, and i think we will most likely get Kiyoi pov at the end of next ep, or from ep 5 which is more funny than Hira. I want people to know Kiyoi POV, his toughts are so funny and and i can relate so much to what he is feeling. I would have the same toughts if i was in his place.
This kind of story is usually adapted and adressed so well in movies, where people don`t engage that much in discussions, but is rarely adapted in dramas. The discussions can get really interesting because of this.
It was more than half a year since i was so invested in a drama.
These kind of discussions are in a way a proof that the story and the characters means a lot for many people, otherwise they will not be so many people sharing their opinions and engaging in discussions.

Yep, I also have more of a hard time waiting for the next ep compared with the first 3 eps. In my case, is because i know the next eps will be much better than the first 3 eps, based on the novel and BLCD.

Yep. This is why i have a hard time understanding some comments people has writed about what happens in this drama. Is obvious that Kiyoi makes use of every opportunity to spend time with Hira. Maybe is because i am used to the subtlety of japanese dramas and movies cinematography, since i watch them from years, but this is very obvious to me, like why people are unable to see it and interpret the things that happen totally different than what i see? Anyway, thank you for adding this.

You are amazing, i will watch this too.

Yes. Exactly. And like you said, all the characters interactions as colleagues ring really true to how colleagues are behaving in school. The drama has almost every interaction possible of how people behave when they are in school, which i didn't see this depicted so raw and real in a long time in a BL drama. In japanese BG dramas yes, they are almost in every japanese school dramas, but not BL dramas, especially not for other countries beside Japan. Maybe this is what is bothering people, the raw and realistic approach this drama has? I don't know, but glad to talk to you.

Yes for psychological, the novel is also psychological, beside romance and other genres.
This aspect was well adapted.

🤷‍♀️ I guess we will see. Honestly i spoiled myself so much, but i am surprised at what it happens in every ep, the drama is filmed very well. I am looking forward to be surprised, even if they are little things like this.

Definitely. When you know what happens in the novel is a totally different experience and understanding of what happens, than people who didn't read it.