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I saw the announcement, so The Justice will come, and not this. . And it make me think that because things were mixed up, is possible they mistakenly changed the network to be Mango tv, like if they tought that this drama page was that of the drama The JUSTICE, they changed it to be Mango tv for this drama as well and the number of eps too ( but i saw the nr of eps was changed back) but in fact is still YOUKU.
It was a big mistake, they basically more likely make changes to this page as is another drama, i hope they will change all they did, to how it was before. I don`t mean to criticise people, mistakes can happen to anyone, but i wrote it to point this out.

They are multiple translators for this novel, but the best and the only completely translated version is the one from E.DANGLARS website.
Here-http://edanglarstranslations.com/modu

Actually, you might not know if you haven't visited the page before, but The Abyss was originally planned to be aired by YOUKU.I haven't checked the last weeks, but other people who lurked this page for a long time, know that it should have been a YOUKU production, YOUKU was added in mdl before for this drama not Mango tv. Wonder what happened, maybe they sold their airing rights to Mango tv. That's why, being that initially Mango wasn't involved in the production, the drama maybe will be good, but the subs is the bummer yes, but from what i observed they do add subs, but with a certain delay, like they add the subs later, after some time pass from the time the eps are released. .But, to be honest, i believe the fact that it will air in a few days is very unlikely. I know for sure it has not passed even three months from when the drama has wrapped up filming, since i keep tab on what phase danmei cdramas are. Even modern dramas has to take at least six months in post-production.And i haven't heard anything that the drama has gotten the broadcast license. But i will update on the page if i find anything new.

Yes, i want to reaffirm what i said before, IN NO WAY THE ABYSS will be released now, i knew they wrapped up filming very recently and i just checked to be sure, it has wrapped up filming i think in the beginning to middle August. Is not even two full months, is imposible really, i don`t know where the rumour has come.
I will let this google doc so people can see for themselves, but they are posts made in twitter that has pointed out exactly when the drama has finished filming, for people who want to look more into it.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1y-O8dL8SyuzAsuetC9zrNnu_cSFOlEPw505ljg2WPts/edit#gid=710792163
All credit for the google doc goes to @NanaBeingNana from twitter- https://twitter.com/NanaBeingNana

I want it to be released as well, as we really need a new ray of sunshine after all this time, but with at most two months of post-production, it will surely be rushed, and the drama and us deserve better.

Yes. Just a rumour at this point, and it might remain as just a rumour, as long as new rules about danmei dramas are not officially released. We will most likely see concretily what will happen in time. But like i said, taking in consideration what happens in cent right now, that in essence, they want things to return to how the dramas were released and promoted before all this fan culture has become how it is and how Liuliangs had become popular so quickly, i believe they also want danmei adaptations to regress back to how they were made before ( Untamed being the best exemple). I just hope they can at least allow the making of danmei adaptations to be like how Untamed was made, and to not be even more strict than this.

Yes, i don`t believe they will make them endgame, but i think is possible they can add some more scenes with Shi Mei that they wouldn`t have added originaly, like not necessarily romantic, but having her interact more with the male leads, so the relationship between the male leads will not seems like is the focus, so as not to attract attention. Like to make it seem that something more happens between them if you want to see it, but at the same time, is not there for people who don`t look at it as a danmei adaptation, like how Untamed did it.

I don`t entirely believe this post, but i do believe Tencent is taking precautions and things will change. Entert industry in China has a lot of new rules being implemented, and things will change, and those changes will only make BG and BL dramas actually going back in time to the way they were filmed and promoted in the past, and in the past danmei dramas that were considered acceptable was the way Untamed did it. Actually Guardian was taken down at some point when it was airing i think, because the relationship between the male leads was not considered to be just brotherhood ( it attracted too much attention). Then only after it was heavily edited, it was released again. That`s why the drama has so many hard to understand and messy edited scenes.
That`s why maybe they don`t want the drama to be taken down, or they made new rules so they will have to resubmitte, i don`t know really, but i do believe any of the upcoming danmei dramas will not be aired the way it was intended to air before those new rules were implemented.
And by saying that Chen Yao will get more scenes, they don`t necessarily have to be romantic, but to have her interact to the leads, and make the male leads romantic relationship to say it like that- more lowkey and to not attract attention. Even if they add more scenes to her they can still preserve the relationship between the MR and CWN, at least i think they can if thay want to.

It may not necessarily targeting HYX. HYX is one of the few upcoming danmei dramas, if not the only one, that have in the cast an important supporting female lead, with who a main character is actually entangled. Adding some more scenes to her so the relationship between the male leads is more lowkey ( as it will not drawn attention, and make it seem like is not there) is not unusual. Maybe the production team has decided that making the dramas as having bromance, will no be enough, as too many scenes have to be cut, than to add more scenes of Shi Mei. This is just speculation, who knows, but anything is possible. This was done in the danmei drama that was totally transformed in bromance named The Sleuth of ming dinasty, they have added a lot of scenes to a female supporting character, but i disliked this drama not because of this, but because of the changes made to the personality of the male leads.
I mean i am not defending this channel, as it does says to take everything with a grain of salt, and not everything it says is in the end proved to be true, i just think from what i observed- it usually reports thing as they come across them, and don`t insist on them, as they just make one post and move on with another.
I don`t entirely believe this post, but i do believe Tencent is taking precautions and things will change. Entert industry in China has a lot of new rules being implemented, and things will change, and those changes will only make BG and BL dramas actually going back in time to the way they were filmed and promoted in the past, and in the past danmei dramas that were considered acceptable was the way Untamed did it. Actually Guardian was taken down at some point when it was airing i think, because the relationship between the male leads was not considered to be just brotherhood ( it attracted too much attention). Then only after it was heavily edited, it was released again. That`s why the drama has so many hard to understand and messy edited scenes.

I just come across some rumours from this twitter channel i follow, who is not really as reliable as dramapotatoe and cdrama rumours channe;, but i found this channel posts more trustful than others.
https://twitter.com/takewithsalt/status/1433956141625716738
All credit goes to @takewithsalt
So it seems changes to Winner is king and Immortality too will be made by TENCENT, so they would at least be able to air them.
To be honest, i dont blame them, this year has been a tough year for Tencent and danmei dramas in general. To be honest i am really bitter about a lot of things that hapenned this year and i just hope China would at least allow the release of the danmei dramas that were filmed and are currently produced, and they would manage to slip some danmei dramas in the future that can at least portray the relationship between the male leads as well as how Untamed managed too.
For Immortality it seems it will changed to resemble to a BG drama, as they want to add more scenes for Chen Yao who plays Shi Mei ( this is really unfortunate sigh, i hope they wouldn`t at least suggest they end up together). Ant in this situation, complains for the fans will only make things worse.
I also read a lot of posts saying WIK and Immortality will have to be resubmitted for censorship, and that`s why the changes will made, so they will pass smoothly.
At this point, i hope at least the story will not butchered, since i think for the majority of us, to be able to see the characters come to live and tell their story in a coherent way is more important than anything.
Let`s be honest to ourselves, deep down we did know danmei dramas will be not be able to be released as before, at least for this period of time.
And deep down i did know this will happen, but in a way this is a good thing, as maybe the upcoming danmei dramas that will be released will focus in showing a good story, the story that is actually closer with what actually happens in the novels they are adapted from, and we will get more good quality danmei dramas like Untamed.

I just come across some rumours from this twitter channel i follow, who is not really as reliable as dramapotatoe and cdrama rumours channe;, but i found this channel posts more trustful than others.
https://twitter.com/takewithsalt/status/1433956141625716738
All credit goes to @takewithsalt
So it seems changes to Winner is king and Immortality too will be made by TENCENT, so they would at least be able to air them.
To be honest, i dont blame them, this year has been a tough year for Tencent and danmei dramas in general. To be honest i am really bitter about a lot of things that hapenned this year and i just hope China would at least allow the release of the danmei dramas that were filmed and are currently produced, and they would manage to slip some danmei dramas in the future that can at least portray the relationship between the male leads as well as how Untamed managed too.
For Winner is king it seems the relationship will be purely show as brotherhood, so edits will made. I also read a lot of posts saying WIK and Immortality will have to be resubmitted for censorship, and that`s why the changes will made, so they will pass smoothly.
At this point, i hope at least the story will not butchered, since i think for the majority of us, to be able to see the characters come to live and tell their story in a coherent way is more important than anything.
Let`s be honest to ourselves, deep down we did know danmei dramas will be not be able to be released as before, at least for this period of time.
And deep down i did know this will happen, but in a way this is a good thing, as maybe the upcoming danmei dramas that will be released will focus in showing a good story, the story that is actually closer with what actually happens in the novels they are adapted from, and we will get more good quality danmei dramas like Untamed and even as good as some impressive BG cdramas.

I don't know that much details, probably it didn't passed the previously phase that take place before the broadcast license phase. But one thing is sure is that this drama didn't get his broadcast license, since cdramas that gets their broadcast license are published in NRTA website, and for this drama it was not announced yet.

It will take some time, from what i read (dramapotatoe source in twitter) the drama hasn`t gotten the broadcast license yet. It has to get this first and only then find an airing spot.

HAHHA. But i agree that China should leak some rumours, even if they are false, only to keep us flowing at least.

Yes. The movie basically ends with Kyouchi making his mind to wait for Imagase return, and if this ending was the production team decision, probably to be more impactful, in the manga the movie was adapted from they do end up together, and in a way the movie has decided to delay their reunion. The ending of the movie has some slight changes made and a sort of ending earlier than it should, so the reunion takes longer, as it was just a few hours in the manga until they are reunited.

I think you watch it already, but i will reply you just in case.
It has nude scenes related to the sex scenes usually, but the private parts are not showed (by this i mean- no frontal nudity shot)
Is just a normal movie that targets adults and has a few sex scenes, like actually well filmed sex scenes.
The two sex scenes are filmed in a way that you know what they are doing, there is nothing ambiguous about them.

It happened before Kyoichi has his break up scene with Tamaki.
The beach scene wat cut in two and one was showed much more later, but is obviously the continuation of the first part. If you remember, the beach scene happened right after the break up scene between Kyouchi and Imagase ( i mean after the scene where Imagase slaps Kyouchi and after he starts crying and scrolls down). Basically, after the break up scene, they go to the beach, and the remaining part of the beach scene is shown later.
This kind of montage of not showing all that it happens and revealing late or showing much later a continuation of what is tought is finished happen quite often in Japan dramas and movies, i guess i got used to it, and i was not confused by it.

I will share the news i know about this drama adaptation.
This danmei drama adaptation is based on the sequel novel of Breaking through the clouds named Swallowing the seas/Poyun 2/Tunhai from Huai Shang and the rights to make the live adaptation were bought by Huanrui/H&R Centuty pictures entertainment company, who has acquired the rights for another four bl novels, who includes Thousand autumns and Tianbao Fuyao Lu.
Huanrui is an agency that doubles as a productions company, as they are involved in the making of the dramas that they bought the rights to adapt. It has made quite a lot of dramas, but i think Love and redemption is their biggest success.
Anyway Huanrui has a tendency to cast their signed actors to play in their "in house productions", so the last rumour is that they casted Ren Jiulan and Cheng Yi as the main roles. My guess it will be Ren Jiulan as Bu Chonghua and Cheng Yi as Wu Yu. I don`t know if i like the cast, i am still having a bit of mixed feelings about it, as i think Ren Jialun looks old ( he is not old , but he does look more old than other actors his age and has a different vibe than the character Bu Chonghua that he will most likely play as and Cheng Yi is just not someone i imagined playing Wu Yu. This is still a rumour in the early stages, so it might not turn out to be true, especially since Ren Jiulan has said that he will avoid staring in a danmei adaptation, since he is married and has a child, seen through i don`t know if is a completely personal decision or it was made in consideration to his fans, who also aren`t that supportive in his playing in a danmei adaptation, from what i observed.
This rumour is not reliable at this point, it was not made by a reliable twitter account, but it might turn out to be reliable in the future, so i will edit the post if i come across something more.

For anyone who don`t know, the novel this drama is adapted from has a donghua too, released recently, made by bilibili and it can be found in youtube bilibili channel.
Here is the playlist where it can be watched
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=04KGfaAxIEk&list=PLBakWosU0sfg0VdxDYx8lb1ZlNQBalEo1&index=5

This photo do brings back memories.
I was taken a bit aback when i saw the changes made to the character design of YWS, but then it come to me that this is how YWS should look in the novel before he is put in that situation where he has to relay in SQ ( i wrote like this so i don`t give spoilers to people) minus that hairstyle who is a bit too pretty, carefully arranged and maybe i was too used to YWS having his hair free, untamed in the first season of donghua ( from what i remember, the novel hasn`t given details on how the hairstyle of YWS should look like, but i always imagine it for his hair to be tied carelessly but extravagant, but not that pretty like how is it in the new concept trailer for ss2).
I actually always wished the donghua (ss1) has not made YWS show his chest that much, but to actually look from the start as how it will most probably look in season 2, because it just was not how i imagined YWS to be, but i didn`t mind this, and get used to the look of YWS In the first season.
Anyway, letting aside the clothes of YWS in season 2 who i really approve of, i thInk the hairstyle was made like this to match the changes that the personality of YWS will experience in the events that take place in the season two of the donghua (people who read the novel know what i am refering to).
In season two, YWS change clothes a few times, his overall appearance too, and this new appearance of his will make it more easily for people to be able to distinguish betwen the original personality of YWS, and the changes in his personality that happens in season 2.
This is a really good thing, since even in the novel if people don`t read carefully it can be hard to understand who is the person that is described at different points in time, so this change in appearance will make it easy for viewers to understand what it happens. Because of those changes, i have really good hopes that season 2 may surpass season 1 not only in how the story is presented, but in popularity too.
I writed more that i planned, this is a habit of mine, and is hard to change. Things that i want to say just keep popping out in my head as i write, hahaha.

I come across a reliable twitter channel ( the dramapotatoe) that has said that the rumours that A league of nobleman airing in august 9 were totaly fake. The rumours originated from a few weibo accounts who had the intention from the start to spread fake rumours. They are some rumours that are definitely fake, and we should this in mind all the time, sigh, some people just want to add salt to people wounds.
Nothing reliable is known yet and not official announcement was made yet regarding the airing date, so nothing points out that it will released this year. Don`t put much hope on the fact that becasuse they were rumours that the drama should have been released in august 9, is an indication that it will be released this year, because is not.
The drama was wrapped up filming in dec 2020, so it can be considered that is at the middle of the time that the cdramas take to be released ( who from what i observed has an average of one year- one year and half, sometime even two years for period costume dramas, and half year to one year for modern dramas.

Yes. The drama will be a danmei/ bl adaptation since the source material/novel is a bl novel.
Well as long as the production company or/and the agency who has bought the rights from the author of the novel to make the drama adaptation try to adapt the drama as being true to the source material and not changing the relationship to be purely bromance. I believe is not known yet who has got the rights to the drama adaptation, hopefuly is a good one.