Same. I'm dropping this one after how bad Tossarra was. On top of that I'm a novel reader, and I hate Vee's character…
Ughh yeah I haven't read the book (only what others have summarized) but with how Gun's creepiness and quite frankly toxicity was portrayed as romantic in TOSSARA, I can already see how this one's going to go. Really interested in the third one too (that one was always my favorite story-line) so I'm hoping that it doesn't let me down!
I don’t know why it took me so long to watch the OST MV but I finally did and omg it’s so good. But of course it’s good! I’m not even surprised. GMM—what is this brilliant sorcery you have that allowed you to create this gem that is 2gether!! I could totally see Bright and Win doing more series together even just as bromance because their chemistry is so good.
Gosh Folk looks so much like Gun and Chimon to me that it throws me off every time hahaThe bookstore scene...ughhh…
Ok, I think I’ve figured it out. It’s definitely the acting and lack of chemistry between the leads that’s killing the romance for me. I’m watching My Engineer right now and it’s basically the same situation between the leads there, but the difference is in the better chemistry, portrayal of emotions, and less stalker/manipulative tendencies between the mains, and maybe overall tone, writing, and direction as well. Sorry to bring in another drama, but the comparison struck me and it seemed apt.
I love how Duen is taking his flower duty so seriously haha. And I loved how Bohn was looking (read: gazing lovingly) at him in the flower shop and becomes such a lovestruck puppy when picking a color. He’s so whipped. And their interactions in part 4 (starting with the apron) are really setting my expectations high for the inevitable kiss scene!
Really enjoyed the rest of the episode (big improvement from last week for me), especially getting introduced more to the side couples, both of which look so cute. And the humor and silliness continues to make me laugh.
Gosh Folk looks so much like Gun and Chimon to me that it throws me off every time haha
The bookstore scene...ughhh I don’t know man. If I was Bar, I’d just straight up and leave, deuces to Gun and Mark who are just having a pissing contest and just want to claim their “property” with no regard to what the object of their affection wants. He looked so over it anyway, and too robotic (I still don’t believe him when he says he likes Gun. He shows more positivity and affection towards his friends than his supposed lover. Like, he’s smiling while taking to his friends and immediately frowns and turns sour when Gun starts texting him. Yeah, true love right there. I need something more than the all-of-a-sudden, out-of-the-blue complete 180 flash that came too late—where was that before??).
Also not a fan of this mentality from Bar’s friends (and maybe Gun) that Gun is entitled to date Bar because he bought him so much stuff, ESPECIALLY when Bar did not ask for any of those things.
I’m sorry to be so negative. I know some are really enjoying this show and that’s great!! I’m not trying to take away your enjoyment of it. But for me it just highlights too many toxic things and lacks the.....something, I don’t know, finesse? Strong writing? Charismatic leads who have actual chemistry together? Some inclination of desire and interest other than mere recitation of script coming from the one being pursued?....to pull it off. We’ve definitely seen similar, questionable things on other BLs, but I feel like it’s really put to an extreme and magnified here and is not sending the right message.
Yeah...I certainly understand why they did what they did for eps 9 and 10 (even more so now that I know they paid…
Very good points. I like your way of looking at it!
I also do wonder how episodes 9 and 10 would have been received had the director and whoever else just said up front what the situation was. It may have softened the blow. Maybe they thought it would be more well-received so they didn’t think it was necessary. I do find it interesting and think it maybe says something about the direction of the series, though, that there was so much pre-filmed footage of FighTor that they could make two full episodes out of it, and the same can’t be said for SaiZon. Who knows, though. There could be many reasons for that, especially since filming wasn’t complete, but this is just me thinking out loud.
Before saying anything else, I'll just say that I dropped this series twice before coming back to it... because…
Yeah...I certainly understand why they did what they did for eps 9 and 10 (even more so now that I know they paid for the TV spots already and would lose money by not putting up something), but it still doesn’t change the first 8 episodes and the directing, scriptwriting, and other production choices, which I think is perfectly fair to comment on and critique. (Controversial argument warning: I also think it’s fair to comment and critique episodes 9 and 10 as well. After all, it was production’s decision to begin airing before they finished filming, so it’s fair game for commentary, but that they ran into such a huge, course-altering pandemic can definitely be considered as a mitigating factor as well!).
Anyhoo, just a long-winded way of saying I feel ya and I too think it would be nice if they could take a break and then come back with something that ties up everything nicely.
Basically the same thing, just slight additional info I think. One other thing to point out is that they already paid for the air time, so they couldn’t do a hiatus or something similar, hence the mashup of footage.
I think the reason this show is more like a 7 or 6 to me is because the writing is really weak. They're good at…
Just wanna say that I really like this part of your comment: “They're good at writing ‘scenes’ and moments but not a plot.” As a huge lover and proponent of a strong plot (and plot-driven works in general), I never really thought of looking at things from this aspect, but you’re totally right! It’s a very good critique, spot on, and can definitely be applied to other dramas as well!
I will say I wish they didn't use the I was drunk and don't remember part. I was able to read the first 14 chapters…
Ok, maybe a conspiracy theory, but food for thought! What if these boys are using the “I’m drunk, I don’t remember” line as an excuse because they’re still uncertain of where this is going and they’re testing the waters. I do think Wat was drunk at the beginning of the episode (leftover from mast week) because of the way he was acting. Maybe he didn’t remember. But maybe he did! Wat would use the excuse bc he doesn’t know how Tine feels about him just yet, so he says he doesn’t remember in order to smooth things over as if it didn’t happen. Same for Win, who is confused about his feelings as well as Wat’s behavior and what Wat is thinking, so he feels insecure about what he did and plays it off too like it didn’t happen. The way both look right before they say they were drunk makes it seem like they do remember, but their trying to gauge the situation and/or chicken out about owning up to what they did.
I don’t know if that makes sense and it could completely be my own interpretation—I doubt GMM will address this anymore than they have in the series (ie, they’ll leave it as is), but it makes for a fun alternative haha.
I love how Tine always mouths the words/sings along to the Scrubb songs that Wat sings, and the way he looks at Wat when he’s doing it....so cute and pure! Also love when Wat says something maybe vague or neutral but then he clarifies for Tine (and of course it’s always something flirty), so smooth and debonair-like.
From the recap at the beginning, Bright does such a good job emoting. I could feel his pain, jealousy, desperation (I mean he always does a good job so what I am even saying lol).
Still in love with the amazing friends and how they support Tine and Wat, respectively. Two noteworthy moments from this week: “Gross but cheap, so we gotta eat” LMAO and Man and Boss during the bar scene haha
Love the humor, love the pacing, and just agree with every other praise that’s already been sung!
The ending though!! Damn you GMM with your cliffhangers!
I know it’s only four episodes, but I don’t think it’s an excuse for the lack of plot ._. In ep.2 they’re…
Yes, I think that with it being only 4 episodes, then the writing and character portrayal is even more important! It should be strong, succinct, not a minute wasted.
Ahhh unfortunately that doesn't really surprise me at all. I'm of the opinion too that we should be able to separate the actor from their craft, and it's sad that so many BL actors feel the need to overcompensate by insisting that they're straight (as if we don't know haha, but I guess that's due in part to the intense shipping culture maybe?). Also, good point about using the BL for fame and then being so against it--the contrast is a bit strange.
I remember reading about that quote from Singto and liked his attitude about it! It also reminds me of a recent quote from another Thai actor who played Sam in Friend Zone (Nat). He echoed the same sentiment, and Lazy Subber posted it here (if you haven't see) (multiple pics so scroll through): https://www.facebook.com/LazySubber/photos/pcb.1054623531571764/1054616151572502/?type=3&theater
I haven't watched other series with Krist but why does him being awkward in those too not surprise me either XD I guess that's just his acting style haha
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Really enjoyed the rest of the episode (big improvement from last week for me), especially getting introduced more to the side couples, both of which look so cute. And the humor and silliness continues to make me laugh.
The bookstore scene...ughhh I don’t know man. If I was Bar, I’d just straight up and leave, deuces to Gun and Mark who are just having a pissing contest and just want to claim their “property” with no regard to what the object of their affection wants. He looked so over it anyway, and too robotic (I still don’t believe him when he says he likes Gun. He shows more positivity and affection towards his friends than his supposed lover. Like, he’s smiling while taking to his friends and immediately frowns and turns sour when Gun starts texting him. Yeah, true love right there. I need something more than the all-of-a-sudden, out-of-the-blue complete 180 flash that came too late—where was that before??).
Also not a fan of this mentality from Bar’s friends (and maybe Gun) that Gun is entitled to date Bar because he bought him so much stuff, ESPECIALLY when Bar did not ask for any of those things.
I’m sorry to be so negative. I know some are really enjoying this show and that’s great!! I’m not trying to take away your enjoyment of it. But for me it just highlights too many toxic things and lacks the.....something, I don’t know, finesse? Strong writing? Charismatic leads who have actual chemistry together? Some inclination of desire and interest other than mere recitation of script coming from the one being pursued?....to pull it off. We’ve definitely seen similar, questionable things on other BLs, but I feel like it’s really put to an extreme and magnified here and is not sending the right message.
I also do wonder how episodes 9 and 10 would have been received had the director and whoever else just said up front what the situation was. It may have softened the blow. Maybe they thought it would be more well-received so they didn’t think it was necessary. I do find it interesting and think it maybe says something about the direction of the series, though, that there was so much pre-filmed footage of FighTor that they could make two full episodes out of it, and the same can’t be said for SaiZon. Who knows, though. There could be many reasons for that, especially since filming wasn’t complete, but this is just me thinking out loud.
Anyhoo, just a long-winded way of saying I feel ya and I too think it would be nice if they could take a break and then come back with something that ties up everything nicely.
https://www.facebook.com/480446308989492/posts/1072528223114628/?d=n
Basically the same thing, just slight additional info I think. One other thing to point out is that they already paid for the air time, so they couldn’t do a hiatus or something similar, hence the mashup of footage.
I don’t know if that makes sense and it could completely be my own interpretation—I doubt GMM will address this anymore than they have in the series (ie, they’ll leave it as is), but it makes for a fun alternative haha.
From the recap at the beginning, Bright does such a good job emoting. I could feel his pain, jealousy, desperation (I mean he always does a good job so what I am even saying lol).
Still in love with the amazing friends and how they support Tine and Wat, respectively. Two noteworthy moments from this week: “Gross but cheap, so we gotta eat” LMAO and Man and Boss during the bar scene haha
Love the humor, love the pacing, and just agree with every other praise that’s already been sung!
The ending though!! Damn you GMM with your cliffhangers!
Edit: well damn, looks like everything except episode 1 got deleted. :(
I remember reading about that quote from Singto and liked his attitude about it! It also reminds me of a recent quote from another Thai actor who played Sam in Friend Zone (Nat). He echoed the same sentiment, and Lazy Subber posted it here (if you haven't see) (multiple pics so scroll through): https://www.facebook.com/LazySubber/photos/pcb.1054623531571764/1054616151572502/?type=3&theater
I haven't watched other series with Krist but why does him being awkward in those too not surprise me either XD I guess that's just his acting style haha