TexanTitan

Loved it! The two leads are so sweet and cute! I like that they got straight to the romance, without any unnecessary drama!

Yes, he got into a graduate program at Columbia, which is in New York City! It's the 3rd best ranked university in the United States. I agree, I don't know how he would find time to act in Thailand and go to grad school in NYC. Maybe in the summers?

Well, the definition of the word "judgmental" is having an overly critical point of view or forming opinions about others without much information (from google). You don't know that person and you don't know if they are adventurous or not. There are lots of reasons why a person might choose to watch a show or not, so for you to make the assumption that they are not adventurous because they didn't watch the show is judgmental.

For example, an LGBT person could have watched a show in the past that was supposed to be about LGBT people because they wanted to feel connected to their community (maybe their family is not supportive) and they wanted to see a positive representation of LGBT love on TV, but in the end the show was actually about straight people even though the show tried to appear like it was focused on LGBT people. There is a name for this; it's called "queerbaiting". So now, they are cautious about getting too invested in a show because they are worried it might turn out the same, where, even though the show was marketed as having a positive LGBT relationship, it is really focused on straight people. That has nothing to do with being "adventurous". This is only one example of why a person might choose not to watch a show.

A lot of times in the BL world (or even just fandom), fans get so hyper-protective of shows that they like that they refuse to allow other people to feel differently. If you like the show, great! Other people don't have to like the show. People who make judgmental comments about others because they don't like the same shows are being toxic fans.

Well, that's judgmental. "If you don't feel adventurous enough..." Yes, deciding not to watch a "BL" after a bait-and-switch means you are not adventurous. Here's what you should have said instead:

"I understand that you are losing interest in the show because it was promoted as a BL and it is looking like there may not be an actual BL relationship in the show. I'm still enjoying it so I am going to keep watching. I hope you find a show that you enjoy. If this one turns out to have a BL relationship, we will let you know in the comments so you can come back and enjoy. Good luck and have fun watching dramas!"

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This is really cute and well done. I'm impressed that they are able to make all the pieces fit together so well, considering the constraints. The two leads have good chemistry and I'm really enjoying it!

Sure, good luck and enjoy.

I didn't tell you that you couldn't watch it. I just said that I'm not going to watch it. I'm not sure why that's causing you so much stress and triggering you. It's definitely boring for me.

Those shows sound boring too, and I definitely wouldn't watch them. And yes, I get to decide what I will and won't watch.

I know that relationships have kissing. Every romantic relationship I have ever been in has had kissing. My parents kiss. My brother and his wife kiss. Straight people kiss, gay people kiss, bi people kiss. It is so incredibly weird to show a romantic relationship and purposefully avoid ever showing the couple kiss. It's not an accident. They are making a decision to not show the couples kissing (an actual, real kiss, not a drunken confession that we pretend didn't happen). Why are the producers/directors choosing not to show guys having a normal, healthy, romantic kiss? Homophobia and money. They are afraid it will cost them views and advertising, and that it will offend conservatives. Eff that. As a queer person, I am used to risking discrimination. I'm not watching a show where they are so cowardly they won't risk having "boyfriends" share a normal kiss.

Nope. Relationships have kissing. That is the most basic requirement for a romantic relationship. 99.99999% of romantic relationships have kissing so unless there is some compelling reason explained in the plot for why they can't kiss (other than homophobia), it's a bromance or a fake relationship. Anybody who says you don't have to have kissing for a romantic relationship is very, very far away from the norm and probably has a (homophobic) agenda.

After the deeply mediocre ending to 2gether, I am boycotting this and all GMMTV BLs until something interesting happens. If two dudes kiss, I will watch the show. Otherwise. I'm going to GagaOOLala to watch actual LGBTQ+ content.

Nobody is hating. You don't get to tell other people how to feel. People have legitimate criticisms and want to talk about them, which is the purpose of a comments section.

It is not my opinion that in the overwhelming majority of romantic relationships, both queer and not, people kiss and have sex. It is an obvious fact and common knowledge. Also, as I said, they were "on track" to have a romantic relationship but ended up roommates. It's called a "bait and switch", which is where the term queerbaiting comes from. In a bait-and-switch, first someone holds up some bait which in this case was the promise of a romantic relationship between Sarawat and Tine and then when the've got people hooked, they switch it for something else, in this case, roommates and bromance. This is absolutely literally queerbaiting it's nothing else, and when you say, "save" the term, this is exactly what it's meant for it doesn't need to be saved. And finally, again, just because they said out loud that they were in a relationship, does not mean they were actually in a relationship, if what they are calling a relationship bears no resemblance to a queer relationship. If you want to argue that there are queer relationships no sex and no kissing, I agree, there are, those exist. but that would be something that would be explicitly acknowledged and talked about, because again, the overwhelming majority of people expect that there will be kissing and sex in a romantic relationship.

I have, thanks!

Don't act like a martyr. No one is mistreating you and no one hates you. People disagree with your opinion and said so. Put on your big kid pants and deal with it. People disagreeing with you is not people being mean to you. No one said you are stupid and if they did and I missed it, that's bad on them. People have legitimate criticism. If you like it, that's good for you. Other people don't have to.

That is not what the overwhelming majority of gay relationships look like. Just because they called it that does not mean it really was a gay relationship. Other than a asexual folks, I don't know any gay couples that don't kiss, have physical intimacy, have sex, etc... That's exactly what queerbaiting is. Saying it will have queer representation while the reality does not show that. They were on track to be in a relationship for the first half but ended up roommates.

You sound like a self-hating gay. Expecting gay people to kiss, hug, hold hands, and, yes, have sex, like normal couples do all over the world, is not oversexualized. It's normal, regular, typical. People who say it's like porn or oversexualized are dealing with homophobia (either internal or external) or are sex-negative in general. I'm gay too. 99.9999999% of gay couples kiss. It is completely unrealistic to not show that.

Honestly, for a show supposedly about a gay romance, there was zero romance in this show. Honestly, I'm just going to call it: it's pure homophobia and queerbaiting. Anybody who says that "true romance doesn't require kissing", or "bed scene" or whatever, is probably asexual and/or has never been in a sexual relationship. And being asexual is totally cool, but most people aren't. Seriously. The whole thing is a bad joke. I've been watching BL dramas for about a year, and honestly, I'm over a lot of them. This was a good example. This show could have been great. In the beginning, it was funny, a comedy of errors, a farce. The show was ridiculous and it was meant to be that way, we were all in on the joke. But as the show went on, it became clear that the joke was on us. There was never going to be a realistic relationship between Sarawat and Tine. This is capitalism. They want our money. They want to get advertising dollars, and to sell T-shirts and tickets to fan meetings. But they don't want the stain of "the gay". Well, I won't support shows anymore that do this. There is other content for me to support that shows queer couples as actual human beings with sex drives, and kisses, and cuddling, and all the *normal* things couples do. I am done with this bromance bullshit.

Damn, that last episode was hot af! As a queer person who has actually had sex with men, these were some of the most realistic sex scenes I've ever seen in a BL. As a previous commenter said, it actually seemed like they were into each other. Usually in BL, they look bored or uncomfortable. There was one scene in particular where Saint looked breathless. That is what an actual sex scene where the people involved actually like each other should look like!

Hopefully Saifah and Zon get some scenes that are just as hot! And then they can all officially come out and be boyfriends and live happily for now (cause they are in college, so they'll all probably break up once they graduate and get jobs, that's life!).

The pacing is great so far (not so slow it's boring, no weird skips or plot holes). The characters have decent acting ability and the story is a little silly but fun. Overall, in terms of production, this is one of the best BLs I have seen (and I have watched just about all of them)! I also love how Sarawat is clearly super into Tine, but Tine is completely oblivious, but still a little bit attracted to Sarawat.