Renata MJ

Ty all :) I was confused in ep 1

I am confused some time back I saw a trailer for this series but it was a completely different setting and story... they were in school. Did they change something? I am at ep 1 but it looks different than the trailer I saw...

Yes, you are right, the majority BL actors prefer an on-screen couple pack for BL because in other projects they have multiple partners.
For TharnType Gulf was a "first timer" to acting, he only went to the auditions because his friend begged him :)) we saw his best friend Fiat in other BL's after :)) As for Mew he was a first in "What the Duck" both season he was a couple with Art but that entire production was a disaster and the series came out the same. There was a huge misunderstanding that turned out into a huge scandal... but before that MewArt were a loved couple, the problem was that both were new to the crazy pressures of the BL industry and they were pushed too much and Art is bipolar.
The other couples you mentioned could be they did not want to stick to the industry, or they were usually supporting roles, or after corona they did not find projects they liked well enough, and so on, because I saw some are active in different projects.

They did it to all of them, not only to Barcode. There were videos of Mile saying to them to stop because it's considered as harasment. The reason why no on could stop them was because of the laws in Thailand that protect writers and their high positions in the production.
Basicly, if I understood right, even if the sold the rights of KP to FilmMania or Be on Cloud, in Thai land the writers always remain the owners, they just give the right to the production company to use the material but they don't owne it. So for the project to be made they had to be there all the way.
That is why the first version was canceled and Mille had to resolve the diferences of vision, find new production company and he was also the main source of money for the second version. But the good thing was that the 2 writers left the project on their own after some time.

he was doing his mandatory military :) until this year... so could be he will make a come back :)

It happens at huge concerts as well, when there are too many people tightly packed in smaller places and even worse if they panicked... they could not breath and get out of there and they suffered cardiac arrest, no oxygen to the organs... So scary that this can happen like this.

You are right too because nothing is perfect and there are dark sides to the industry as well (and the issues are not light at all), but from the projects, I watched the majority were ok and only a few were bad, still just like in Hollywood there are rumors of pervs and ass*ole writers or directors and scary stories behind the scene. People in power do abuse their roles sometimes.

This is insane so many died and were injured and as well as 4,024 missing?!

I was saying that if the original source is a rape fantasy erotica this series can't be different, obviously you don't have to like it but you also can't take it seriously. The fans of the genre usually know it's fantasy, there are some obsessed people but they are not the majority.
As for the fans you mentioned you are right in a way, I will explain :) the BL genre in Asia is not the same as gay genre movies from the west or even the gay genre in general. It is relatively a new genre from around 2009 with the first gay couple being side stories, or comedic relief, having sad endings or involving abuse, dark themes, or tragedy... it was kind of a stereotype. Also, I have to mention that the majority of the stories are based on erotica for women.
From around 2014 they started making proper BL's with bl main couples but the intimate scenes like kissing were fake or censured or unnatural... the episodes were short and mainly on the internet, and the budget was extremely low; a lot of times from fan donations (this happens today as well in rare situations, or actors sometimes put their own money in as it was the case for KinnPorsche). But fans were supportive of the genre and asked for changes in the themes, wanting positive stories. The next thing that happened was an explosion of campus couples... starting from Lovesick and continuing with Sotus and so on. There is also something else specific to the BL industry, it became a stepping stone for many actors as it is always searching for new faces and they accept non-actors in the auditions (a lot of BL actors were first timers), compared to the general acting circles that rarely take new people over well-estabilished names.
With all this, the BL industry created a system/ training camp to make the newcomers comfortable with each other, the camera, and romantic scenes, which is why couples in BL series seem close on-screen and off-screen. They also have a "marriage contract" in the Thai BL scene that some screen couples decide to make when they decide to be mainly exclusive with each other, make BL's as a couple, and not change partners (that is why they exchange rings because it's a symbol they will mainly play in BL's together and they come as a package, this is a choice that each actor decides on its own).
Krist and Singto (Sotus 2016) are like that; Krist said he will only play in BL's with Stingo, while Stinto took on multiple roles.
Peak and Boom (Make It Right 2016),
Tul and Max (Bad Romance 2016) accept roles together more than with other partners. The legendary couple OffGun (Senior Secret Love: Puppy Honey 2016) that are together as a screen couple for 7 years now. Pete and Kao were similar...
Some of the actors are actually childhood friends and live together, and some are actual couples in real life, so yes some fans exaggerate and obsess and push their fantasies over the actors, and because of this, some actors live the BL genre.
In some cases, the on-screen couples become best friends in real life, even more, when one of them is experienced in acting and becomes a guide for the new actor like it happened with Saint and Zee, Mew and Gulf, Zee and NuNew, and so on.
Anyway, the main idea is that the BL genre is exaggerated with storylines that are often crazy, unrealistic, and sexual and you should not expect normal, I skip some too, for example, this project seems like too much for me too
. I love stories that have other subjects, not the ones that make rape the main theme :) but I don't mind others liking it or the actors accepting the roles.

Yes, they are universal but the definition is different. I saw there was a huge backlash against the sexual scenes involving alcohol, whili I remember going out when young; girls would purposely get drunk or tipsy to have the courage to approach their crush.
Under-age drinking and sex are not illegal in my country... so teens can drink with parental consent.
So my cousin was 15 and dating a guy 2 years older... one year later the situation would be considered strange in other countries., right? 16 and 18. In my country it's not, so now they are married and have children.
Sex between underage people and over 18 is also legal following some rules (because pedo still exist-but it's defined differently here).
So only because I am used to watching projects from around the world that I am used to seeing the difference between what it's allowed here and what is in other countries, so I don't tend to push my country's style/views over others.
A lot of people from the west would be outraged to hear about what I wrote before, even if I would tell them that nothing bad tends to happen compared to other countries...

I generally don't get offended I even read the novels if I have the opportunity but in all the series you mentioned there was another main story and rape and violence were not the main thing... but here everything seems to be centered on manipulation and rape (like it's the main factor the pushes the plot on :)) )
I am not offended but the synopsis of the series made me scratch my head... and trust me I saw some crazy dark and a bit too sexual BLs that shocked me and this synopsis made me think of that.
Big Dragon is new I have yet to know a lot of info, so I can't speak. KinnPorsche was censured once as they had to make a second version that was not completely shallow and had balanced characters, it was exclusively made +18 (on a foreign platform) and the TV version did not have the crazy stuff. The rape theme and the violence made sense in this show because of the mafia theme, realistically the mafia is not romantic and tame, it involves murder and survival, and characters that are psychotic, so being involved in manipulation, violence, and rape fits the world; makes it more realistically depicted.
TharnType I had no objection as I read the book and I was following the process of creation and all the interviews, I understood the characters and the development but I remember there were tons of non-Thai fans, mostly from the west that wanted to cancel the show and it was crazy because they misunderstood some of the actions (and that in some of the other cultures consent means something else or better said if defined differently).
Also, there are still people that attack the BL actors calling some homophobic based on wrong info... the same with some BL projects.

Lol you are funny :)) you know what erotica is right? and you know rape fantasy is a genre... so why go crazy over something that is made in another country following different rules ... Get offended by something you have a reason for not erotica :)) Are you a cancel culture fan?

what is that project you saw?

It was worae before, bl now is not that bad... but this one seems to have a bit of a stupid premiss, sounds like it was writen purly like a porn rape genre... Like there are 4 people here and some are manipulative, some are rapists full of revenge , abusers and full of violence... what background do they have to make them so f-ed up? and make their actions so wide spread?

F me... Forget it... I am at ep 10 :(( I think they were together and the husband was afraid of being judged so he married a girl... wtf they are sad :((

I am at episode 8 and from the start, I thought something is going on with the 2 guys... the husband seems to ignore his wife most of the time, but cares for the kid. the chef is also acting strange...

I love The Untamed a lot it's one of the best xianxia ever. It was one of those projects in which all elements came together perfectly. I watched both drama versions, the movie from the same universe and the spin-off, I got the novel, I read the manhua, and watched the animation, still, I would not say that a Kdrama with swords is too much inspired by c drama as they made similar work before and sword fighting was all around the world.

:))))

I watched this because the manga got me, it had a good vibe plus I loved Beck manga (one of my favorite). But when projects like this are made as live action, after manga and anime, I can't help but think it's mainly for the fans.

OMG, they did not solve his case yet from 2021 everything is on TBA... I hope every asshole that sabotaged him will pay, they need a taste of their own medicine.