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I agree. I think the problem was that it was repeated too many time. And JW's acting was too harsh. I think they should have tone down the jerk attitude and start progressing the story around ep 6.

Hum but it's really not. I don't know if you're talking about me, but TTTS is one my fav series because the characters are indeed flawed but we see them progress from immature morons to less stupid lovers who have each other back and apologize for their toxic behaviors. Moreover Tharn & Type communicate throughout the series, not always properly but they talk and try to understand each other pov. So while I'm completely aware TTTS is problematic, I still appreciate the characters development.
TMS 2 doesn't have the points I cited above : JW's behavior is repeated during 8 episodes, he doesn't self-reflect, there's no progression in JW & SJ's relationship until ep. 9 but suddenly we have a HEA.
The issue isn't JW's toxic behavior but the fact there's no "learning curve" for him, he was kept static the entire series just for the sake of drama.
So I believe you can like TTTS and still call out problematic characters in other series.

I agree with you but I don't get the comparison with OhmNanon or the guys from Semantic Error. The storylines, the circumstances the characters are going through and the relationships dynamics are so different in these 3 series. Obviously you'll not see the same chemistry. It's like comparing MewGulf or MaxTul chemistry to KangMin & WooHyun.

- He was feeling lonely because he made his life about SJ
- He became resentful that SJ was always busy and surrounded with co-workers and friends while himself was alone. Never mind that he was SJ's center of universe and SJ always put him first...
- JW has self-esteem issues, he believes SJ would stop loving him soon

So instead of talking about it with SJ or seeing a therapist, he left abruptly and ghosted SJ for a year. But then the story tells us he was in fact waiting for SJ to come get him, because apparently SJ is a mind reader.
But then when SJ did find him, instead of being happy and relieved his lover was fighting for their love, he acted contradictory and rejected SJ several times.

I've read some of your comments and it seems you're deliberately missing the point... Nobody saying JW's struggle isn't real. We're saying that, objectively, the script is flawed. If you choose to portray a character with mental illness or insecurities so deep it disrupt their life,
you should tread carefully and strive for a realistic character's exploration and convincing ending.
We didn't get it though. There's no character's development (JW reading SJ's text messages and getting an epiphany in ep8 isn't a development), no progression between JW & SJ (it's 8 episodes of JW deliberatly being a jerk to him, it's 8 episodes of JW saying hurtful things to SJ while hoping SJ would read his mind and would keep trying to win him back). There's no self-reflection, no talk about therapy (for both of them), and worse of all, no apologizes.
We're not upset they got back together. We're saying the ending isn't earned. You'all saying the series is a realistic depiction of a relationship but you're accepting an unrealistic ending where the big issues are swept under the rug and the conflit is resolved in 2 minutes.
Reading comments like "Why are people being mean to JW? Why people don't get JW is hurting too? This story is so realistic, why are people not seeing it?" is annoying. It's wild that those who appreciated this season try to disregard valid constructive criticism made by those displeased with the series. At the end of the day, everyone can like what they want. In real life, some people would forgive JW after all he's done, and others, while understanding his actions, wouldn't take him back or would make him work for it.

Already did. I love it. It's one of my favorite now, with Life: Love On The Line.

Two things I got from this season :
- Some viewers equate angst with quality. Give them 8 episodes of inconsistent, repetitive and messy doom and gloom and they'll eat it up gladly because "it's angsty and realistic"... Even though
the outcome is far from realistic and provides no relevant lesson. I mean, I believe a character should go to therapy when their insecurities affect their love life and leave them depressed; same expectation for a character who's being clingy to their verbally abusive ex-lover because of their abandonment issues. They both should seek professional help in order to heal from their past traumas so this fuc*ed up situation would never happen again. In real life, a romance with two individuals like SJ and JW wouldn't work for long. There's a real unbalance power dynamic in their relationship that I wanted to see discussed and worked out properly. But well, we shouldn't complained since they kissed and resolved a year and a half painful mess in 2 minutes. Everything is good and the series is a masterpiece! *sarcasm*

- Some viewers love making excuses for their beloved fictional character when they wouldn't even tolerate their shitty behaviour in real life (at least I hope so). But we shouldn't point out the problematic things JW said repeatedly to SJ and never apologized for since he was hurting too...

South Korea dramas really have a chokehold on people minds. Even their below-average productions get praises. I can bet the reception would have been different had it been a western, thai or chinese drama: people would have called out JW toxic behaviour, would have criticized the choppy editing and the messy plot.

Well, at least the comments section was more entertaining than the series itself.

Lol please, no. Let's not assume disappointed fans just wanted fluff and are incapable of intelligent and unbiased thinking. That's ridiculous to say since we got 40min of fluff at the end but still didn't care for it. We don't like this season because the script is weak and frustrating. It tried to be smart and artsy but lack coherence. But apparently for some people, angst = quality... The actors deserved better.

MekKim isn't a real thing so Tim trying to be paired with Kim isn't a crime. It's not like he's trying to break up a real couple. You don't deserve to die because you're a jerk.
Mek didn't know Tim was allergic to fish sauce but that's not an excuse: because you don't know what allergies people can have you should never play with their food. That's basic knowledge. Mek could have done any prank but this one.

I screamed when I saw that! Such a disrespect to us lol

You're a gem! Your analysis are always beautiful. I appreciate you don't compare series VP to the novel and just focus on interpreting what you see. I love reading you.

Who hates Build?! How is this possible?

I didn't read the novel but I understand perfectly their story in KP because it stands on its own. VP actions are logical because they gave us enough background and you have to be able to read between the lines. Not everything has to be spelled out.

Mek has the brain of a 12 years old, unable to understang his pranks hurt people. I hope they'll show the fall out from his action because this time it's serious, he endangered someone's life! I wouldn't forgive him so quickly if I were Kimhan.
The series is watchable but it could have been so much better with good actors (Earth is the only one with tolerable acting). I can't get into the cute scene because they don't have chemistry, I can't get into the serious scenes because they don't act well, they just read out their lines. It's a shame.
I believe you can do a fluffy and silly story and still aim for quality acting. Take Secret Crush On You for example. It's an over the top crazy and funny series that doesn't take itself seriously but it's great because the guys can act! Seng (Toh) and Billy (Nuea) acting is great and their chemistry is amazing; the entire cast has done good with their respective character. They're put into ridiculous situations but you're still into it because they can sell it.
The problem with My Secret Love isn't the stupid plot but the subpar acting.

He genuinely thought he was right lol. He acts like he's smarter and proper than anyone, not fun at all. I don't even know why Fah likes him.

Boring episode. I skipped 50%. Prince's attitude was frustrating, there was no need for conflict. Fah gave an explanation, Prince should have said "I believe you but I'm feeling insecure because I don't know where we stand." It would have saved us from 45min of nonsense. Fah's declaration was cute though.
What I don't care is KluenDao's random scenes. They had their series to show them romantic and cute but they didn't, so now isn't the time to compensate.

Thanks! He's so pretty, he reminds me of Monsta X's Minhyuk :-)

What's his insta? I can't find him.

You have to be a moron or a 3rd grade kid if you answer people's comments with "write your own story". Also, you think calling someone a moron is the same as throwing racial slurs ? That tells a lot about your level of intelligence...

Yeah, I've learned my lesson.