MianhaKdrama

Preserving your mental health and refusing to be a doormat isn't pride. It's called self-love, self-esteem and common sense.
Your whole argument has been "nobody is perfect, you have to take people with their flaws, if you love someone you have to accept everything...". Yeah, go tell that to these people living with manipulators, malignant narcissistics, sociopaths, rapists, drug users... You can love someone but you don't have to accept their flaws, you don't have to let their actions hurt you.
You've said in another comment that nowadays everyone overuse the word toxic. That might be true in our daily life on internet but in real life, when talking about people's relationship, the word toxic is carefully used, and even barely used by those involved because they often don't see the red flags or refuse to acknowledge them.
Loving this series is fine, everyone is entitled to their feelings, but I find it sad that you can't separate fiction from reality and constantly reframe problematic stuff as being normal and tolerable in real life. It gives gaslighting vibes...The restless energy you use to press viewers to love this series says a lot about you...
Don't bother replying cause I'm not going to continue this game.

I'm sorry but do you know him personally? You're sitting at home and talking about this actor like he's your friend. Seriously! I'm so fed up of fans like you who protect their favorite celebrity at all costs. The double standard is unbelievable: when it's a random person on internet or within your social circle, you don't hesitate to cancel them but when it comes to your favorite "idol" you show your hypocrisy and lack of common sense. You don't even understand the seriousness of the situation: the guy is playing a queer character in a BL, with some queer actors in the cast and we find out he said homophobic and racist stuff and condone rape years ago. That's huge and embarassing for the production house and his co-stars. That could cause issues for the production (loss of advertising contracts and sponsors for exemple). But you're all here crying because you're selfishly thinking about your need (how you want to keep seeing your fave on screen).
We shouldn't bully him for his beliefs but we certainly aren't going to excuse his past behavior and treat him like a child. Let's him take full responsability for his actions.

You're not the only one, many people said the same.

Where is she?! I miss her!

Because your opinion is the universal truth? Lol, fans like you are a nuisance.

After rewatching the series to see why I didn't like it unlike so many people, it dawned on me that if SJ had been a woman and JW had been nice and considerate of his ex-girlfriend from high school but cold to SJ and spew hurtful words for 8 episodes, let her sleep outside in a Van, slept with her and then said they could be sex buddies… we wouldn’t be praising the series.
Nowadays, with all the discussions about mental health, how to create and maintain healthy relationships and how to recognize red flags, we are more aware of what's not acceptable in a relationship (manipulation, shaming, disrespect, verbal and physical abuse). Today, as soon as a guy screams at his girlfriend/wife or disregards her feelings we're all in her business saying "Girl, that ain't it! Red flags! Drop him, he doesn't deserve you!" So if a guy had done a JW, we would be asking our girl what's so great about this jerk, why is she taking him back. We would advise her to see a therapist in order to understand why she allows someone to treat her badly.
There are many dramas and movies where the ML is awful to the FL and viewers point out his toxic behaviour. However, we witness the character developing gradually from a jerk to a considerate and tender lover. When the series ends, we got a satisfying development arc and we understand why the couple ends up together. We didn’t see that in TMS 2. So why are we finding excuses for JW ? Why should we rejoice after their reconciliation? Is there somehow a double standard when it comes to gay stories ? Do we silence our critical thinking when watching BL ? Looking at it from all angles, I can’t say the romance portrayed is beautiful.

There’s this notion that the series depicts the realistic struggles of a relationship. Well, I do agree it’s a realistic depiction of a toxic relationship. What it fails to give is a realistic ending consistent with the previous 8 episodes. I wonder if the writers took a step back to review their work. Had they done that they would have noticed the first part of the story is too contradictory to the last 2 episodes. Had they been honest they wouldn’t have ended the series like this.
Realism is calling out your characters for their flaws, it is giving them awareness and allowing them to organically develop toward a well-thought finale. And most of all it is letting your characters face the consequences of their actions (and the consequences should fit the actions). As it is, there were only 2 realistic and cohesive ending matching with the storyline presented to us :
A – SJ gives up and goes back to Seoul. JW follows him and apologizes. They discuss their mental health issues, they agree they need professionnel help to heal and only then, they will be fit for a relationship. They officially break up but we know they still love each other and they might meet again years later.
B- SJ gives up, JW apologizes and begs SJ to take him back. They discuss for more than 5min their mental health issues, their unbalanced relationship dynamics. SJ tells JW he’s in probation, they will go to therapy (individual and couple sessions if needed). We see them reconnect, we see JW makes amends through actions for more than 1 episode.

This season reminds me of Vampire Diaries. Elena’s character was a miss for many fans because they wrote her as a Saint and Hero, loved and desired by everyone. But her decisions and actions were contradictory to what the show wanted us to believe : she was often selfish, holier-than-thou and applying double standard when it suited her. In the same fashion, TMS 2 wanted us to root for JW, wanted us to see his behaviour as an understandable reaction to his mental struggle. However, they went too far and didn’t counterbalance his awful behaviour with some expressions of his undeniable love for SJ. They remembered too late they wanted to give an happy ending.
TMS 2 lacks sincerity and self awareness. I’d even say they didn’t respect our intelligence by giving us this overly optimistic ending. As if viewers couldn’t deal with a sad ending. They dressed up the ending like a fairy tale. I would have liked a bittersweet ending better, because it would have indicated the writer has an understanding of their work and the time we’re living in. I would have loved a break-up. It surely would have given something to write for season 3 : how these two healed and reconnected a few years later.

I think this season will please viewers who are very forgiving or those that have accepted problematic things in the name of love. But it might disappoint viewers who don’t take bs and believe that love isn’t enough to allow oneself to be in a toxic relationship.

I've heard many good things about this drama and since I love Lee Je Hoon I had to watch it. Unfortunately, I think the series is overrated. It's no bad, it's just ok. I don't appreciate the directing and narrative choices (overuse of flashbacks and "what happened 5 minutes ago" explanations). Lee Je Hoon is great as usual but I'm dropping it (ep4).

Exactly and that's why KP is still a good series even though the plot is weak. It was satisfying to see the characters development because we cared for them. I wish the script had been better but in the end it wasn't a disaster and KP is now a standard in thai entertainment.

I thought the writing got worse after ep7 but I still had hope for the finale. Unfortunately it was underwhelming. Too much happened and nothing made sense. Porsche being the head of the minor family is laughable and out of character. Him trusting Korn, again, is unbelievable. And what was the point of Korn faking his death? Why no one questioned his move? That's such a huge part of the storyline, we shouldn't have to speculate about his motivation. As it is, it just seems like a convenient plot to move the series to a bloody action packed finale.
The reappearance of Porsche's mother was bad and unecessary. Very soap opera... Does it happen in the novel? I didn't like how they introduced this twist, how it was acted out. I don't know, it wasn't convincing.
In the end, only VegasPete's storyline was consistent and their ending satisfying lol.

Are you really watching the series? Toh isn't a stalker: as a member of the photography club, he takes photos of Nuea during school events. The only questionable thing he does is collecting items Nuea has touched. He never talked to him or followed him. That's Nuea who initiated every encounter.

Girl, tell them! They ask for new stories and healthy relationships but when you give it to them they hate it because...it's different. Make it make sense!
Let's be honest: they don't like SCOY because of Toh. They would have loved it if Toh had been a handsome and "normal" guy. But since he has mushroom hair and wears glasses and bermuda shorts, he's not worthy of being the main character. Some people are really shallow, they just don't want to admit it.

That escalated so quickly! I screamed at MekKim's love scene. I wasn't even expecting that kind of kiss. It was good, looked natural. Earth seems to be a good kisser, he catched Fluk's lips with gusto lol.

This pairing doesn't work because of Mark. Mek is an ok actor but he always has relatively good chemistry with his co-stars, and he knows how to play relax and fun characters. But here, it doesn't mesh because Mark give nothing, he barely emotes so Mek hasn't much to go with.
GMMtv new guys are a miss : Dunk, Mark and Book should have trained more before securing lead roles.

I can't help gushing over him when he's on screen: "Oh my, why he's so pretty? Look at his eyes! Look at his smile! Oh, his baby teeth are adorable!" :-)

I wasn't expecting 3 kisses! They were weak but I'm still glad we got them.

Ep3 was good! Finally, Kaneda is letting his hair down. The elevator scene was cute, we can see Yanase does have a crush on Kaneda. The tension during last scene was delicious! I love Naito Shuichiro's acting (Yanase), he conveys a lot through his beautiful eyes.

I've watched ep3. I'm dropping this. I could deal with bad acting and bad directing but a stupid and problematic storyline? I can't! I've no interest watching a series where a guy thinks it's ok to harass his one night stand. Kamol stalks Kim, invades his privacy and his workplace, talks about love and living together as if Kim is his property. That's awful.

TBH in ep4 you don't really see his mouth because of the angle.

Yeah, at this point this is getting ridiculous.

WooHyun carried the show, his back must be hurting. I love him!