So because toxic relationships are present in a lot of BLs we can't complain? Let's all close our eyes and ignore…
But is it set out to depict toxicity or is it just the writer who can't differentiate between toxic and healthy? I've no issue when the purpose of the story is to depict toxicity and show characters developpment (TharnType), but when the toxicity is presented as hot and normal (Cutie Pie) and the characters don't even acknowledge their problematic behaviours, then you can't be surprised people complain about it. Nobody like straight series where the ML is toxic to the FL and nobody think it's normal. but when it's about BL you have different standards and argue that it's fiction. That is the real problem in the fandom. Nobody forbid you to like controversial BLs but you shouldn't dismiss viewers who raised valid questions about romanticized toxic relationships.
Except that Rain told him to stop, not one but 3 times! And Phayu didn't stop by himself, Rain had to push him…
"I don't know why people watch BL's and expect morality lessons. The whole point is to manufacture drama by creating a bit of toxicity and sexual tension" -> Really?! And here I thought, after 20 years of reading/watching BL, that it was about romance between 2 guys... Of course writers can do what they want, some choose to depict healthy relationships while others prefer controversial ones. To each their own (and I'm saying this as a fan of TharnType). However, let's not give a false definition of what BL is supposed to be. ..Viewers who prefer toxic BLs can enjoy them, there's no shame but expecting healthy representation of gay relationships is legit too.
Right up my alley. Here's my opinion. Rain is clumsy and ditzy and felt an attraction to Payu instantly. In Payu's…
Except that Rain told him to stop, not one but 3 times! And Phayu didn't stop by himself, Rain had to push him and struck him with a pillow. Also, they don't know each other, so why would Phayu asssume Rain is playing hard to get? This is something you assume when you know the person, and you have established this kind of dynamics. You don't go around thinking a complete stranger is playing hard to get when they tell you to stop and are pushing you away, 3 times! This is a dangerous assumption. So while it's not rape, it's still harassment romanticized, as usual in Mame's works.
I came to check reviews because I didn't know about this series at all until it appeared on my Youtube's feed…
So because toxic relationships are present in a lot of BLs we can't complain? Let's all close our eyes and ignore the issues ? When watching non-bl shows you don't highlight the negative aspects of the storylines? Or only Bls get a free pass? Toxic relationship isn't the hallmark of Bls. Many series have healthy couples (BB, HiStory: CTL, SCOY, TMS1, Sotus 1, Old Fashion Cupcake, SaifahZon from WRU, Right or Wrong...). We don't have to accept problematic behaviours. Also, you can watch and appreciate a series and still comment on its issues.
If this drama is not for you then that's fine but don't comment things that might hinder others from watching…
You're on a free platform where people can comment what they want, what do you expect? This isn't a fanpage. Nobody is telling you what to do and what you should feel. Watch and enjoy the series and let people do their things.
Hum, that ain't it for me. Where's the fire? There are 13 episodes, why is it going so fast? What's wrong with taking time for exposition? Who are the characters and what's their background? I'm tired of the infodumping in some thai bls. I want to SEE who the MCs are instead of being told. I can't deal anymore with the characters being introduced by gossipy classmates and a montage of the guy walking in slowmo, leaving his mansion, riding a bike or driving an expensive car... I don't care! Introduce these details during actual scenes between the MCs, not with infodumping within the first minutes of the 1st episode. And of course, we got a harassment scene as usual in Mame's works. Rain told Phayu to stop 3 times! And even then Phayu didn't stop by himself, Rain had to push him and struck him with a pillow. This woman doesn't learn! I found the filming and editing basic : irrelevant and loud bgm, orange/yellow saturation, overdramatic shots... I wish thai bls would improve at least on the film making. We're in 2022, I don't understand why they're always giving the same "quality" of directing. I yearn for more series with simple direction like Love Mechanics, BB or japanese series like Love on the Line and Old Fashion Cupcake. I don't always expect high quality production like KP or ITSAY but I wish they'd refine their art.
So i just wanted to give my point of view for that scene at Phayu's, for me it might have nothing to do with rape…
Except that Rain had to tell him to stop, 3 times! And Phayu didn't stop by himself, Rain had to push him and struck him with a pillow. So while it's not rape, it's still harassment romanticized, as usual in Mame's works.
This is already over. Or are they gonna give us the same thing break up and get back together so they can milk…
Yeah, it doesn't suit Pavel at all. You can literally see him acting, whereas in 2 Moons 2 he was very natural. I feel bad for him. Let's hope his next project will be better.
Mixed feelings about this. I do like the direction the plot is taking (I'm always down for some social-commentary,…
Totally agree. Akk's characterization in ep1 suffers from this heavy-handed narrative. He came off as a guy that only recites and upholds the rules. He focused to hard on the new kid that doesn't fit the mold. I believe you can adhere to rules and order without acting like a mindless underling. What you said about Not Me is one of the reasons I didn't like the series. No matter how much I tried I found the constant moralization boring.
Characters need to tell each other what viewers already witnessed bc we are just viewers, not part of the plot.…
You can start the scene with the friend saying "I understand you're sad because X told you this but I think...". There are many ways to imply characters had a conversation, we don't need a play by play for everything. If it doesn't bring new information or progress the narrative we don't always need to watch the same set-up of friends telling each other what happened previously. The screen time should be used for something else. That's basic Writing 101.
There are too many scenes where the characters tell their friends what viewers has already witnessed; MekKim is a mess thanks to the cliché conflicts they added out of nowhere. 12 episodes is too long for this drama; 8 episodes would have been better.
Nobody like straight series where the ML is toxic to the FL and nobody think it's normal. but when it's about BL you have different standards and argue that it's fiction. That is the real problem in the fandom. Nobody forbid you to like controversial BLs but you shouldn't dismiss viewers who raised valid questions about romanticized toxic relationships.
Of course writers can do what they want, some choose to depict healthy relationships while others prefer controversial ones. To each their own (and I'm saying this as a fan of TharnType). However, let's not give a false definition of what BL is supposed to be. ..Viewers who prefer toxic BLs can enjoy them, there's no shame but expecting healthy representation of gay relationships is legit too.
So while it's not rape, it's still harassment romanticized, as usual in Mame's works.
Toxic relationship isn't the hallmark of Bls. Many series have healthy couples (BB, HiStory: CTL, SCOY, TMS1, Sotus 1, Old Fashion Cupcake, SaifahZon from WRU, Right or Wrong...). We don't have to accept problematic behaviours. Also, you can watch and appreciate a series and still comment on its issues.
I'm tired of the infodumping in some thai bls. I want to SEE who the MCs are instead of being told. I can't deal anymore with the characters being introduced by gossipy classmates and a montage of the guy walking in slowmo, leaving his mansion, riding a bike or driving an expensive car... I don't care! Introduce these details during actual scenes between the MCs, not with infodumping within the first minutes of the 1st episode.
And of course, we got a harassment scene as usual in Mame's works. Rain told Phayu to stop 3 times! And even then Phayu didn't stop by himself, Rain had to push him and struck him with a pillow. This woman doesn't learn!
I found the filming and editing basic : irrelevant and loud bgm, orange/yellow saturation, overdramatic shots... I wish thai bls would improve at least on the film making. We're in 2022, I don't understand why they're always giving the same "quality" of directing. I yearn for more series with simple direction like Love Mechanics, BB or japanese series like Love on the Line and Old Fashion Cupcake. I don't always expect high quality production like KP or ITSAY but I wish they'd refine their art.
What you said about Not Me is one of the reasons I didn't like the series. No matter how much I tried I found the constant moralization boring.
12 episodes is too long for this drama; 8 episodes would have been better.