I agree. The way he worded it made it sound like it seemed like he couldn't lover her because he was gay.Also,…
Yes, i agree, initially i hated it when they entangled Yoon Seul in their lives, I thought it was another attempt to make a woman the 'enemy ' in a BL series. But the more I see her the more she grows on me., now it feels like in the end, she will be the one to bring the 2 leads together again.
I think theres something between the lines - when Ji Woo told Yoon Seun that he is sorry for what he couldnt do back then, i think he means 'make love' - i think Yoon Seul knew at that time that Ji Woo is perhaps gay - and maybe the feelings that they harbour foe each other is not about love and the ghosting break up - its about her finally acknowledging that she isnt meant for him.
I feel like Ji Woo needed to close this chapter so he could really be with Seo Joon.
However that feeling of being lonely when he was with Seo joon is saying a lot.
U Are so mean this show is way better described than what u put, did u have no connection with the characters?…
Hi, sorry if you find my review mean, i didnt intend to be mean. I like Ji Hoo in School and shes part of the reason why i watched this show. Also, i was rooting and excited for this show and really liked the first episodes, there's just quite a few things that really fell short. You wouldnt believe it but I have seen the whole show at least 2 times and some episodes even more, still i wouldnt change my review. I hope they could explain all questionable things when they return for season 2. Still thanks for sending me your feedback.
for you to rate this story 6/10 despite calling it crap, I dunno what would be 5/10 or less
Hi kretuzerwilhrlmxiii, thanks for writing. Im not sure if i ever called it crap, maybe i did, but i think i just mentioned a lot of plotholes and maybe some things that could have been improved but i still think it has good points. I would have given it a 6(or maybe higher) just for Gwi Nam alone.
i'll present an alternative: some parents truly do not care but are still not good parents.there's an abundance…
Problem with some other BLs is that they are too in your face in discussing gay issues, which is the very opposite end of what this show is. To be honest, initially, i liked the fact that they kind of just treated the relationship as normal, but then i thought is this becoming a trend? Some other shows are doing the same thing and ignoring the discussion of sexual preference and orientation, Im just thinking out loud if that is the better road to take or if it helps the budding gay community in general.
Oh, and i love the director's other BL series. I totally fell inlove with Kang Mina.
I hope everyone gives your Review a read before watching this... Crap. There's no other way to put this.I seriously…
Thanks for writing Sahiti!
Well, i seldom rate a show lower than 5, i may have done it just 1 or 2 times. Most of the times, when i really really hate a show, i just dont write about it.
This show in particular, no matter how many things we wish they change, still has good production value (i think) and certainly is still a lot better than some other things ive seen, specially those produced unfortunately in my home country. To be honest, and i would deny this if asked in person, i've actually seen the whole series twice, so yes, i think this is still re-watcheable.
i'll present an alternative: some parents truly do not care but are still not good parents.there's an abundance…
Hi, thanks for taking the time to comment, i love hearing other people's point of view.
Yes, you are right and i may have neglected that part, that the mother could have been that selfish to only think about her image and not about whats going on with her son.
Hmm you mentioned that Kim Min Chae and current Hee Do was not needed in this drama but I can tell you, their…
Hi Johnnypeh41, thanks for writing back!
My problem with the old HeeDo is that it makes her marriage somewhat unimportant. Even if they mentioned the name Kim MInChae from the onset, we are still led to believe throughout the episodes that Yi Jin MIGHT still be the father. And not showing the father deminished the childs importance too. Yes, i did like the MinChae's arc and her gaining back the interest in pursuing ballet after reading the diaries(i especially liked the transitions when the young HeeDo and MinChae are in the same scenes), however, if you remove MinChae's arc, the love story between Yi Jin and HeeDo will not change.
Regarding old HeeDo, the last scene in the tunnel just confused me more, since it kind of showed that she is a woman who hasnt yet moved on from a past love even though she is OR was a married woman. If that scene is the nail in the coffin, then was her whole marriage a lie? Wouldnt that make it unfair, at least for her child?
!!! Yes! I kept seeing Kim Minjae in Kang Eunbin too!! Also they're actually the same age, I believe (1996 liners).Really…
Hi thanks for writing back! I am in love with KMJ thats why its a good thing when i watched this that i kept seeing him in EunBin, makes me think that KMJ is in a BL. I only meant EunBin has a much younger vibe than KMJ ;)
.....but this experiment didnt just fall flat on its face, it broke the floor and went through so deep i cant…
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I think i went a little overboard with that description, lol. To be honest i would still watch it (and probably enjoy it) even with just KangJoon doing silly things.
Q1. A woman from the future created the grid to protect the earth from extremesolar radiation. What did they do?…
Hi thanks for writing and helping me understand the series. I really appreciate it cause theres literally no one in my group who bothered to see this and a post-series discussion is much needed to go over what happened.
Sorry in advance but this will be a little too long.
Q1. I disagree that AB doesnt know that Founder and Ghost are the same, at least the higher ups know. Even SaeHa knows she is the same, thats why his obsession to catch her and make her pay. Episode 3 when SaeHa was showing the videos to SaeByeok he clearly said she setup the grid. Even choi son wool knew this, isnt that why they dont want her exposed, to prevent people knowing that the grid was a tech from the future? If ever, i think only the regular agents didnt know she was the same. Yes, i do agree that they wanted her Time Travel tech, but is capturing and torturing her the right way to do it, after all she is the Savior of mankind, despite her tactics, she still saved a lot of people, is that the right way to repay her. Did they even think about approaching her diplomatically, at least see if she will be amenable to sharing the tech, or maybe let her explain why it shouldnt and cannot pass to them at that time? Why is violence the answer?
Q3. Yes, i saw the the explanation of DNA percentage, but that is still confusing - no1, if Ma Nok was not direct descendant to the Ghost, then it would make it a lot more confusing since saving MaNok doesnt serve any purpose at all. She could have let the police catch Manok and just protected Sae Byeok and the ghost will still be born. If they needed SaeHa to die just to make Sae Byeok get it on with Eo Jin, the ghost can simply dispose him later without anyone knowing.
If in case the purpose of MaNok is to kill Sae Ha, then why is he alive in the end?
Which brings me back to Q2. "time does not flow" - even if you add Einstein and Block universe theory, that still make the time travel aspect of the show confusing, on so many levels. I get that time travel story is a tricky business, but this one is extra tricky. Let me put it this way, if they ended the series with a cliffhanger at episode 8, it may be a little more acceptable and would have rated the show at least a 9. Then they could introduce all the other things they added at episode 9 and 10 in the next season's first few episodes, at least there will be enough time to explain to us 'normal' beings what actually happened. Here's some points that confused me in connection to the time travel bit: 1. As i mentioned in q3, why is saving Manok important if he is not a direct ancestor of the Ghost. Why does SaeHa needed to die, only to be alive in the end and who turned back time to save him. 2. When the Ghost said time.doesnt flow to EoJin, his light lit up like it explains everything. Are we supposed to get it as viewers? Yes, im hypothesizing that the Ghost told him that he was her ancestor or grandfather thats why he decided to save the ghost. But the moment when the explosion happened, shouldnt the ghost vanish too? If you are saying time is linear, then why is she diappearing at some other instance? 3. Doesnt SaeHa's time travelling broke the time doesnt flow concept itself? When he created a future without the grid, doesnt that make time travel null because the future where time travel exists will not happen. Also in that timeline, we didnt see the present SaeHa so we are assuming that he took that timeline's Sae Ha's being. So why when he went back in time again, he saw his other younger self, meaning there were 2 SaeHa? Also, when he went back from the timeline with no grid, following the linewr time rule, isnt the ghost not supposed to be there because he already erased her in his timeline. 4. Why the need to add the second time traveller at the very last episode? They had an unnecessary and unexplained fight, that didnt amount to anything. If he was there to correct the ghosts mistakes, then why didnt he show up when SaeHa was time travelling? Does that mean Sae Ha is suppossd to time travel and change the past? If the intention is to excite fans for a possible next season, well it didnt. At least not for me.
Again sorry about the rant. Id appreciate if i could hear from you again. Thanks.
I feel like Ji Woo needed to close this chapter so he could really be with Seo Joon.
However that feeling of being lonely when he was with Seo joon is saying a lot.
Oh, and i love the director's other BL series. I totally fell inlove with Kang Mina.
Well, i seldom rate a show lower than 5, i may have done it just 1 or 2 times. Most of the times, when i really really hate a show, i just dont write about it.
This show in particular, no matter how many things we wish they change, still has good production value (i think) and certainly is still a lot better than some other things ive seen, specially those produced unfortunately in my home country. To be honest, and i would deny this if asked in person, i've actually seen the whole series twice, so yes, i think this is still re-watcheable.
Yes, you are right and i may have neglected that part, that the mother could have been that selfish to only think about her image and not about whats going on with her son.
My problem with the old HeeDo is that it makes her marriage somewhat unimportant. Even if they mentioned the name Kim MInChae from the onset, we are still led to believe throughout the episodes that Yi Jin MIGHT still be the father. And not showing the father deminished the childs importance too. Yes, i did like the MinChae's arc and her gaining back the interest in pursuing ballet after reading the diaries(i especially liked the transitions when the young HeeDo and MinChae are in the same scenes), however, if you remove MinChae's arc, the love story between Yi Jin and HeeDo will not change.
Regarding old HeeDo, the last scene in the tunnel just confused me more, since it kind of showed that she is a woman who hasnt yet moved on from a past love even though she is OR was a married woman. If that scene is the nail in the coffin, then was her whole marriage a lie? Wouldnt that make it unfair, at least for her child?
I think i went a little overboard with that description, lol. To be honest i would still watch it (and probably enjoy it) even with just KangJoon doing silly things.
Sorry in advance but this will be a little too long.
Q1. I disagree that AB doesnt know that Founder and Ghost are the same, at least the higher ups know. Even SaeHa knows she is the same, thats why his obsession to catch her and make her pay. Episode 3 when SaeHa was showing the videos to SaeByeok he clearly said she setup the grid. Even choi son wool knew this, isnt that why they dont want her exposed, to prevent people knowing that the grid was a tech from the future? If ever, i think only the regular agents didnt know she was the same.
Yes, i do agree that they wanted her Time Travel tech, but is capturing and torturing her the right way to do it, after all she is the Savior of mankind, despite her tactics, she still saved a lot of people, is that the right way to repay her. Did they even think about approaching her diplomatically, at least see if she will be amenable to sharing the tech, or maybe let her explain why it shouldnt and cannot pass to them at that time? Why is violence the answer?
Q3. Yes, i saw the the explanation of DNA percentage, but that is still confusing - no1, if Ma Nok was not direct descendant to the Ghost, then it would make it a lot more confusing since saving MaNok doesnt serve any purpose at all. She could have let the police catch Manok and just protected Sae Byeok and the ghost will still be born. If they needed SaeHa to die just to make Sae Byeok get it on with Eo Jin, the ghost can simply dispose him later without anyone knowing.
If in case the purpose of MaNok is to kill Sae Ha, then why is he alive in the end?
Which brings me back to Q2. "time does not flow" - even if you add Einstein and Block universe theory, that still make the time travel aspect of the show confusing, on so many levels. I get that time travel story is a tricky business, but this one is extra tricky.
Let me put it this way, if they ended the series with a cliffhanger at episode 8, it may be a little more acceptable and would have rated the show at least a 9. Then they could introduce all the other things they added at episode 9 and 10 in the next season's first few episodes, at least there will be enough time to explain to us 'normal' beings what actually happened.
Here's some points that confused me in connection to the time travel bit:
1. As i mentioned in q3, why is saving Manok important if he is not a direct ancestor of the Ghost. Why does SaeHa needed to die, only to be alive in the end and who turned back time to save him.
2. When the Ghost said time.doesnt flow to EoJin, his light lit up like it explains everything. Are we supposed to get it as viewers? Yes, im hypothesizing that the Ghost told him that he was her ancestor or grandfather thats why he decided to save the ghost. But the moment when the explosion happened, shouldnt the ghost vanish too? If you are saying time is linear, then why is she diappearing at some other instance?
3. Doesnt SaeHa's time travelling broke the time doesnt flow concept itself? When he created a future without the grid, doesnt that make time travel null because the future where time travel exists will not happen. Also in that timeline, we didnt see the present SaeHa so we are assuming that he took that timeline's Sae Ha's being. So why when he went back in time again, he saw his other younger self, meaning there were 2 SaeHa? Also, when he went back from the timeline with no grid, following the linewr time rule, isnt the ghost not supposed to be there because he already erased her in his timeline.
4. Why the need to add the second time traveller at the very last episode? They had an unnecessary and unexplained fight, that didnt amount to anything. If he was there to correct the ghosts mistakes, then why didnt he show up when SaeHa was time travelling? Does that mean Sae Ha is suppossd to time travel and change the past? If the intention is to excite fans for a possible next season, well it didnt. At least not for me.
Again sorry about the rant. Id appreciate if i could hear from you again. Thanks.