Snowdrop is set in October 1987. That is after 4–5 months of all the things you've mentioned.
in the midst as we speak.
I kind of am finding the first episode kind of reminds me a lot of Harry Potter. And the whole sneaking back is being stretched out forever. I am tempted to fast forward a bit.
The college kids in general are kind of annoying. I am liking the power dynamic of the wives/husbands, and the ANSP officers arc so far.
I also have also pretty much read the similar things but "If, one of the side characters does die from torture,…
I think the crown is a bad example, as A LOT of people feel it is not fiction eventhough the writer has said mulitple times it is.
People have a VERY HARD time detaching The Crown and reality. Because of that show, many many people dislike Prince Charles. I don't think it may be the best example.
Nope, I haven't seen the show Catherine the Great.
Anyway, I found a way to watch the show, I will watch it first, before commenting more.
Back in 1980, Korea had a dictatorship and the government was Fifth Republic. Students mostly used to protest…
The one who won was sponsored by the previous dictator, but he still went though the proper channels, it just so happened that his competition was so weak and korea was kind of in turmoil, so he won majority.
I think people who have lost love ones during 1980-1987 genuinely feel triggered by the show, and they are not…
according to Wikepdia, the approximate the deaths to be in the 2,000 - 3,000. So if you assume each student has 10 friends and family who cared about them. That's approx 20,000 - 30,000 affected people.
That seems like a decent amount of people.
I think MDL is mostly international fans, correct me if I am wrong, so I don't expect many koreans to be here.
I do agree cancel culture in Korea has gotten bad, especially with celeb scandals, but this isn't the case here. This is an active part of Korea's history, it's a slightly different monster.
Oh yeah, the sensitivity of the west is on overdrive, Asian countries in general are not as easily triggered. But korea is one of the top countries when it's comes to rabid fanaticism for their idols.
one of the side characters was pretty obviously accused of being a spy and tortured, so I imagine we'll get to…
I am just trying to be informed. I do enjoy reading history, and I am just writing my thoughts here.
I know JTBC claims it's all fiction, but keep in mind, Snowdrop is adapted from the handwritten notes of a man who escaped from a political prison camp in North Korea (not quite clear, did this north korean write a fictional love story?)
So are these handwritten notes also based on a fictional Korea and not based on current events at the time? I would like to personally know?
One one hand you said it's fiction, but its adapted from something that is real? I am confused, which is it?
You most likely feel I am trying to drag the drama, because my views don't align with yours, and you enjoy the show, while I feel neutral about it, since I have not seen it yet.
Maybe our views will eventually align, maybe they won't. Either is ok.
So far the logic I am seeing from most comments is JTBC and Actors are not crazy enough to join a drama this controversial, Blue House green lighted it, and JTBC said it would not distort history.
Most countries with a dictatorship have been/are cruel to their people today, and in these 2 episodes I see nothing…
I think people who have lost love ones during 1980-1987 genuinely feel triggered by the show, and they are not out to get Jisoo or want to revel in her failing.
There is more to the world than Jisoo.
Now, why international fans are really taking it to heart? I am not sure, maybe they are just being sympathetic? Who knows...
I also have also pretty much read the similar things but "If, one of the side characters does die from torture,…
Apologies, I don't mind him dying per se, but if the side character's death culminates in a stronger democratic movement and rebellion, then this would serve a similar purpose as Park Jong Cheol's martyrdom.
Imagine I made a show about feud between Prince William and Prince Harry. The same events happens in my show, but I call them Prince Sammy, and Prince Bob.
Whether I claim they are fictional names is not as important if I am carbon copying the essence of the feud.
Well, I think South Korea must get rid of this Tribal mentality and someone must break this ''cancel'' trend.…
cancel culture in Americas exist too, what do you mean?
Western films are not immune to controversy as well. Although, I rarely see shows get cancelled, that doesn't stop people from signing petitions to cancel them.
Disney in particular has been guilty of whitewashing certain characters, and there are huge backlash on these things.
South Korea as a country has gone through so many stuff in the past century. People sometimes forget the split of NK and SK, only happened 67 years old... That is barely a generation. And although they have made tremendous progress to get where they are economically, there will be many things lacking in terms of societal norms.
Snowdrop is set in October 1987. That is after 4–5 months of all the things you've mentioned.
so the timeline is in between Park Jong Cheol and Lee Han Yeol dying and the elections? It seems Roh Tae Woo was in informal power after the June Democratic movement.
So during the timeline of Snowdrop, Roh Tae Woo would already be in informal power, as he promised reforms during June of 1987, and formally became president in december.
seems crazy that DNG thought this ad would be received well...
Just saying, sometimes you have a room full of the smartest people, and yet they can still make mistakes.
I think the issue lies in that, 1980-1987 was a very sensitive part of Korean History, up there with the Japanese invasion and the Korean war, that people did not want to be reminded about it.
Hope the pacing speeds up a little bit.
I kind of am finding the first episode kind of reminds me a lot of Harry Potter. And the whole sneaking back is being stretched out forever. I am tempted to fast forward a bit.
The college kids in general are kind of annoying. I am liking the power dynamic of the wives/husbands, and the ANSP officers arc so far.
People have a VERY HARD time detaching The Crown and reality. Because of that show, many many people dislike Prince Charles. I don't think it may be the best example.
Nope, I haven't seen the show Catherine the Great.
Anyway, I found a way to watch the show, I will watch it first, before commenting more.
At least that is my understanding.
That seems like a decent amount of people.
I think MDL is mostly international fans, correct me if I am wrong, so I don't expect many koreans to be here.
I do agree cancel culture in Korea has gotten bad, especially with celeb scandals, but this isn't the case here. This is an active part of Korea's history, it's a slightly different monster.
Oh yeah, the sensitivity of the west is on overdrive, Asian countries in general are not as easily triggered. But korea is one of the top countries when it's comes to rabid fanaticism for their idols.
If this is the case as JTBC says, then would the ML be working with the NSP then, since they are colluding with NK dictatorship?
I know JTBC claims it's all fiction, but keep in mind, Snowdrop is adapted from the handwritten notes of a man who escaped from a political prison camp in North Korea (not quite clear, did this north korean write a fictional love story?)
So are these handwritten notes also based on a fictional Korea and not based on current events at the time? I would like to personally know?
One one hand you said it's fiction, but its adapted from something that is real? I am confused, which is it?
You most likely feel I am trying to drag the drama, because my views don't align with yours, and you enjoy the show, while I feel neutral about it, since I have not seen it yet.
Maybe our views will eventually align, maybe they won't. Either is ok.
So far the logic I am seeing from most comments is JTBC and Actors are not crazy enough to join a drama this controversial, Blue House green lighted it, and JTBC said it would not distort history.
And these all may very well be true.
There is more to the world than Jisoo.
Now, why international fans are really taking it to heart? I am not sure, maybe they are just being sympathetic? Who knows...
Imagine I made a show about feud between Prince William and Prince Harry. The same events happens in my show, but I call them Prince Sammy, and Prince Bob.
Whether I claim they are fictional names is not as important if I am carbon copying the essence of the feud.
Western films are not immune to controversy as well. Although, I rarely see shows get cancelled, that doesn't stop people from signing petitions to cancel them.
Disney in particular has been guilty of whitewashing certain characters, and there are huge backlash on these things.
South Korea as a country has gone through so many stuff in the past century. People sometimes forget the split of NK and SK, only happened 67 years old... That is barely a generation. And although they have made tremendous progress to get where they are economically, there will be many things lacking in terms of societal norms.
So during the timeline of Snowdrop, Roh Tae Woo would already be in informal power, as he promised reforms during June of 1987, and formally became president in december.
https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2018/12/01/671891818/dolce-gabbana-ad-with-chopsticks-provokes-public-outrage-in-china
seems crazy that DNG thought this ad would be received well...
Just saying, sometimes you have a room full of the smartest people, and yet they can still make mistakes.
I think the issue lies in that, 1980-1987 was a very sensitive part of Korean History, up there with the Japanese invasion and the Korean war, that people did not want to be reminded about it.