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Replying to Kimsamsoom Dec 21, 2021
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This is flawed reasoning actually. There is a petition to stop China Concentration Camp. 1.5M people globally…
the OP's point is that 200k signed a petition, 51m in Korea, so it means 99.6% doesn't care about the controversy. And my point is that is not how these petition websites work. Just because half the population of a certain country doesn't sign a certain petition doesn't mean half the country doesn't care.

He is using percentages to defend his POV, which I feel is flawed. I merely used the concentration camp petition to make a parallels, and I am not paralleling the brevity of it.

My mistake I chose the concentration petition, but it was the first to come to my mind, I was just making a point on how petition websites are basically sampling of the hivemind, and not necessarily an exact approximation of the hivemind's thoughts.

And I get you are passionate about the historical distortion and etc... But me, personally, I just don't want to politicize any Kdrama, because they are just works of fiction and are not real. Plus, I can't pretend to understand Korean history, since I am not Korean. So I don't want to comment on it.

My main issue it the use of controversy to get clicks.
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Replying to Kimsamsoom Dec 21, 2021
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JTBC are fishermen.They laid the "Bait" in form of controversy.They then lured all the people who are offended,…
I personally don't care too much about the distorting history part. I don't intend to politicize or take a side on the spectrum here.

My stance has always been the toxic way JTBC has used the controversy to get clicks, nothing more, nothing less.

I am not a fan of this particular marketing strategy, and that is my main issue. I have no problem personally with the actors and staff that work hard on the drama, just the way JTBC has used this controversial plot to sell it's drama. It's poor form.
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Replying to prince Dec 21, 2021
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You do realize that the show started getting hate even before the show was even properly announced based on rumors.…
It's my opinion, and of course it is based on my assumptions, that is what forms an opinion.

I never claimed my opinion as fact.

It being starred by Jisoo is positive Buzz, which I am ok with, and promote. Just like if two popular actors were to star in a Drama, that is positive Buzz.

Using controversy to create negative buzz to literally get clicks is just not good form.

It is like those articles online that uses the most click baity titles to get people to click on them, or Reddit post using controversial headlines to get clicks and create toxic discussion. This is what is happening to Snowdrop.
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Replying to belleuna Dec 21, 2021
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Actually applying controversy strategy is not really working as ppl nowadays mostly are educated and can tell…
Yup, Disney+ has publicly stated that they are spending major $ in creating it's own Asian content and etc... But they are years away from where Netflix are now.

Disney+ subscriptions have actually been dropping and they are steadily losing market shares to other streaming competitors like Amazon, Youtube, Apple TV.

I have Disney+ myself, and they are seriously lacking in content, not just Asian content, but content in general.

Disney+ can do it, but they really need to get TVN on their side.
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Replying to Kaku Moku Dec 21, 2021
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This is written 12 years ago n controversy started as soon as jisoo was cast....go n watch the two episodes n…
I read that the controversy started when Rumors of what the plot would be surfaced noh?
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Replying to Kimsamsoom Dec 21, 2021
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JTBC knew what they are doing, using controversy to sell their drama. They knew that using this particular timeline…
I mean for me, it's not a major controversy. It's not like they inserted a sexual assault scene, or something like that.

It's a heavily debated controversy that literally stirs the pot and is meant to create huge online buzz. Otherwise, why add it to the story?
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Replying to Kimsamsoom Dec 21, 2021
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JTBC knew what they are doing, using controversy to sell their drama. They knew that using this particular timeline…
Like I said, I highly doubt one bad drama, controversial or not will destroy so many careers. It's literally a blip in their career nothing more than that.

Just because a writer has written many hit dramas or has a lot of fans, doesn't mean they can't suddenly employ this type of controversial marketing strategy. Even the best have their weak points.

Plus a majority of these actors, especially Jisoo are way too popular to have one black mark ruin their careers.

Just my opinion, they could have written the story without it being this particular timeline, or historical backdrop, but chose to delve deep into it instead. Shows me that they wanted the controversy to be part of the discussion at the very least, or create a discussion about it.

This is no different that propaganda films from China making you question the blackness or whiteness of certain characters.
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Replying to Snowdrop Dec 21, 2021
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Yes, you are right, it's possible, it being flooded by Blackpink haters and etc...

But also entirely possible that a good chunk of it are actual koreans who feel affronted, eventhough the numbers have been manipulated.
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Replying to belleuna Dec 21, 2021
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Actually applying controversy strategy is not really working as ppl nowadays mostly are educated and can tell…
Snowdrop isn't on Netflix nor is it on Disney+ US/Canada.

And Disney+ isn't exactly the number one choice for Kdramas as they have a very tiny collection in comparison to Netflix.

I'm not saying JTBC doesn't have streaming power, just that this particular drama isn't funded by Netflix nor is it on Netflix. Which I thought was weird considering Netflix just did the Black Pink documentary.

So most people will not be able to see Snowdrop, unless they want go to streaming sites, which most people feel is a barrier to watch. But not with the controversy being as hot as it is, some people may just do that.
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Replying to prince Dec 21, 2021
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You do realize that the show started getting hate even before the show was even properly announced based on rumors.…
It's like writing about Tiananmen Square, or the Massacre of Nanjing, or any other bloody kudetas in history. They are very sensitive topics, and it's near impossible to write about those without it being controversial.

Even documentaries, which are written to be "factual" become controversial in how they edit it, how sympathetic they made the villain to be and etc...

It's near impossible that this writer wrote about this, or made the plot without knowing it won't be controversial. Unless of course the writer does not know anything about history. But the show is based on 1987, the writer was already alive and aware of what is happening, no way she doesn't know that this will not be controversial.

I think ruining her career over one badly written drama is a bit extreme. If you are a fan of her writing, you will continue to be even if she wrote one controversial drama. But to me at least, it leaves a sour taste in my mouth, that they would employ this strategy.

In this particular marketing strategy, nobody ever admits to wanting it, they always pretend they don't want it. But it's free press, it's online buzz, of course JTBC is secretly loving it.
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Replying to Snowdrop Dec 21, 2021
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That's the danger of Twitter or any social forums. People read one opinion piece, and form their opinions based on that, and they they retweet and it spreads.
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Replying to belleuna Dec 21, 2021
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Actually applying controversy strategy is not really working as ppl nowadays mostly are educated and can tell…
That's the point, you can create good dramas, with historical timeline as merely a backdrop. And with a well written plot, it can be successful on it's own merit.

I disagree, I find in western/eastern shows, controversy and drama really sells well. Look no further than "Reality Shows" on Netflix. They know what sells.

I think the only bad publicity I have found that doesn't do well is sexual assault controversies. With the rise of the #metoo movement, this has just become too much of a sensitive topic.

But for a controversial topic like a pro-democratic movement against an authotarian regime? Yes please!

They are aiming to gain as much popularity as possible since they lack the international exposure due to lack of proper streaming rights, and it's frankly sad they had to resort to this.
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Replying to Snowdrop Dec 21, 2021
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does it matter?
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Replying to Snowdrop Dec 21, 2021
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People from all over the world are allowed to stand up to what they feel is injustice.

So are we not to say anything about racism is some countries, because we are not from that country? Doesn't make sense. Globalization has allowed us to be involved in the wrongs happenings in any part of the world. Why do we need to be citizens of said country, to stand and be united with protestors from that country?

I wasn't aware that citizenship was a requirement to stand up for the unjust.
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Replying to RAMking Dec 21, 2021
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I can only say one thing, if they air new episodes i will watchif they cancel it, it's okay i'm gonna wait for…
JHI I doubt will be affected by this one.

And Jisoo is just way too popular to be brought down by one controversial drama that was not in her control.

Jisoo frankly doesn't need Kdrama or Movies to cement her popularity, whether or not she stars in highly rated dramas won't matter much IMO.
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Replying to belleuna Dec 21, 2021
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They will open real-time chat and discussion so that everyone will see what this drama js is actually about. They…
I think because a lot of international are from Asia, they are responding as if it was their own cultural history being distorted.

AFAIK, most Asian countries has had bloody Kudeta's in one way or another where democracy was squashed by some sort of militaristic regime. So it could be a put yourself in their shoes type of situation.

Similar to people who react aggressively to human rights infractions in other countries. Or discrimination in another. You don't need to be from that country to be offended by what is happening there. The globalization of the world has made backyards much smaller, and noses much longer.
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Replying to prince Dec 21, 2021
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You do realize that the show started getting hate even before the show was even properly announced based on rumors.…
It's amazing! Never understood the controversy surrounding it, the fantasy element it had made it very fictional.
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Replying to prince Dec 21, 2021
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You do realize that the show started getting hate even before the show was even properly announced based on rumors.…
This reminds me of Mel Gibson's show, The Passion of Christ. When rumors circulated that this was being made, you can just imagine the backlash. The backlash of that movie, makes Snowdrop backlash tiny in comparison.

They tried everything to stop it, it showed up in many news articles and discussion group. It created A LOT of buzz and controversy, and it made people, who have never heard of it, or planned to watch it, suddenly want to watch it.

Using positive hype to promote a drama is ok in my book. Using controversy and negative hype to promote a drama is just poor form.

The writers knew ahead of time, this would cause controversy, and still went ahead. They knew what they were doing, and knew the controversy would create a lot of buzz for their dramas, that in this era creates into more views.

Sickening marketing strategy IMO.
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Replying to IndianChief69 Dec 21, 2021
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200K koreans petitioned. So that means another 51 Million koreans didnt feel the need to petition. So democracy…
This is flawed reasoning actually.

There is a petition to stop China Concentration Camp. 1.5M people globally has signed. Does this mean the remaining 7 Billion of people globally just don't care?
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Replying to coconut7 Dec 21, 2021
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JTBC's statement is on point. Hope it'll put some sense into atleast a few haters.
JTBC are fishermen.

They laid the "Bait" in form of controversy.

They then lured all the people who are offended, that will surely watch.

Then, they tease, if you really want to see if we are controversial, or distorted history, you will just have to watch.

Pretty sad, and made me lose respect here.

Like I know, JTBC isn't as big as TVN, and don't have Netflix Contract, but this is not the way to get it.
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