I find it kind of absurd that to justify that Chief An can keep 300M USD in his safe, is by having a box full of passbooks to make up for the remaining money.
The money $300M based on earlier conversation is enough to bankrupt the party, and yet they are ok with it, because they would rather win poor, then lose and go to jail.
Same here, I watch 90 minutes in a span of roughly 55-58 minutes, if at that even.
The list of things I skip:
-Any scene with the wives.
-Any scene with Hye Roung, Lee Kwang Tae and any hostage that isn't main cast.
-Any scene with Nam Tae il, the president, Eun Chang Su, and even Chief An
- Any other filler stuff. If it feels like filler, I will just FFWD.
- Not to be mean, but I've been skipping Young Ro's crying scenes. I've kind of gotten tired of them...
What I didn't understand was I thought they were wiring money, I didn't know the money was in physical assets. How were they planning on sending that money?
Lots of logic leaping in this one.
If you've spent any time watching ACTUAL political thrillers, Snowdrop's political plot is watery thin.
Everytime soo hoo thinks about how his dad want him dead. He tears up and is really sad.
Everytime he thinks of what he has done to young ro, neutral face.
If they really wanted to sell the romance. Having teary or puffy eyes whenever soo ho or young ro thinks about the hopelessness of their romance would do leaps and wonders in making the romance stronger.
To establish this, they need to show young ro not have so many tragedies and not be on constant cry mode. This really weakens the tragedy of the doomed romance of young ro and soo ho.
Seems like a minor change that would help the romance of the show.
Jung hae in is trying his best with his eyes, but the over abundance of tragedies has kind of made their romanctic feelings feel duller.
Absolutely love Jung hae in but in two minds whether to watch this one or not. Can someone please drop an unbiased…
Acting is mismatched, some are good, some are not. There are a lot of exaggerated acting from the other characters to punctuate the satire they are trying to create.
If you like scenes to have continuity and logic, you may be annoyed with a lot of the actions you will be seeing.
There is a really big cast, and you will tend to find some characters pretty useless. I know I do.
The plot is so-so. Since the run times are quite long, you will find the first half of each episode will be slow and draggy, then the last 30 minutes or so will get exciting.
There isn't much romance, and there is an overarching political plot that isn't well written. I personally skip a lot of scenes.
Some parts will drag, and will feel repetitive after a awhile.
to be honest i don't hate boon ok. no evil characters, and gray characters that i hate... but what frustrates…
I've been here from the beginning of the comment section. From what I observed, the minute Boon Ok was trying to find Soo Ho the spy, people already found her annoying and didn't like her. And then each episode, she is given less and less good acts, and as early as Episode 6, people had already full on hated her.
It didn't have much to do with her later acts, people had already decided they wanted to dislike her, so they never gave her a chance. And then it devolved into mob rule, where it was popular to thrash her.
None of the hostages, seem to feel the fear of dying. Like prior to Ep. 13, most of them were worrying about law exams, trips to Europe, it was really only Boon Ok who really understood that she could die that day. None of the other hostages seem to take the situation seriously. And when they showed the concerned parents, Boon Ok's parent's of course were not there. So most of the hostages were comforted knowing that their loving parents are waiting for them outside.
That's the thing, people ASSUME, that boon ok will kill people to survive, or she will sacrifice people for her to gain power. But that isn't shown anywhere, it's mostly conjecture and assumptions. Just like, do we know if Soo Ho had ever planned on pressing the detonator? we can never know since it never happened, or the situation never escalated there. We base her actions on our perceived negative bias of Boon Ok.
it's like imagine 30 people in a room with a bag of money. When the hostage takers come back, he immediately blames Boon Ok without evidence, because she seemed the most likely to do it. It's not a fair rationale and is heavily steeped in bias.
I saw the scene differently, and I explain it in detail in my discussion topic "The Tragedy of Boon Ok"
I won't stop you from hating her, that's your choice. For me, she's plenty redeemable.
It's not about what they did that makes people hate them, it's why they do it The doctor is doing all the "bad"…
So if Boon Ok's mission was to kill innocent people, that is ok, since that's her mission, if not her family may die? So we can rationalize if she has to sacrifice a few people so she won't die. We understand and sympathize with Cheong Ya.
Boon Ok's mission is to keep herself alive, because if she dies, her father will have no one to take care of him and he will die also. So she has to do everything needed to make sure she is alive, which may include sacrificing a few people. But we don't understand and sympathize with her?
How is Cheong Ya's reasons more valid than Boon Ok's? They are both doing it for their families. Cheong Ya is just more mature at 36, vs Boon Ok who is 24 years old. People seem to be able to give Young Ro an excuse for being 20 years old, but Boon OK who is only a little bit older is expected to be super mature?
When she had power, she used it to get revenge on Hye Roung and Seoul Hee, the two people who torment her. But if you rewatch the scene, she actually shares the food with all of them, except for her two tormentors. Did she enjoy the power? Yes she did, but didn't really abuse it as much as you think. She enforced it, she made it clear that she was in charge, but she wasn't abusing it, she was just enjoying it. Which is understandable given her background.
Cheong Ya is not her "Boss", what she is instead is to be one of the few people in Boon ok's life to believe in her, to respect her. Why do you think it crushed her so much when she realizes that Cheong Ya is no better than her tormenters? She was actually being loyal to her new "family". Something that wasn't reciprocated by Cheong Ya when she gave Boon Ok an empty gun.
Not that it's an excuse, but Ms. Pi was clearly pushing Boon Ok's button, which felt stupid on Ms. Pi's part. She was provoking a person who isn't very mentally stable.
How Snowdrop will End. My idea on the plot direction for last 3 episodes.Read below.
Ok let me flesh out my ending prediction to include more characters. What I expect to see in the next few episodes.
After finding out that Young Ro is the ANSP directors daughter, the dorm hostages will start turning on her, led by Hye Roung and Seoul Hee. This act will make Boon Ok see Young Ro in a new light, and realize that they are not that different from each other, and Boon Ok will start softening towards Young Ro. This will be the beginning of Boon Ok's redemption arc. Kang moo and Soo Ho on the other hand will have a little bit of trust issues as they deal with the fallout of Kang Moo's apparent betrayal.
In the mean time, Cheong Ya will be wheeling and dealing, and eventually fool Chief An's wife to give her the money necessary for the scheme. They may try to show some sort of cliffhanger, where it "Seems" Cheong Ya has betrayed them. But in reality, Cheong Ya's love for Soo Ho will persevere. She continues with the rest of the plan and contacts Lim Ji Rok to tell him, she has the money. Lim Ji Rok not satisfied with merely the money, is angered that Soo Ho has become an insolent puppy, will give Cheong Ya the instruction to kill Soo Ho. Cheong Ya is aware that Hanna is surveilling her and will confront her, they may have a fight scene of some sort, but eventually Cheong Ya will convince Hanna that she wants to help Soo Ho and Kang Moo. They hatch a plan of how to re-enter the dorm. Two things may happen, either Hanna and Cheong Ya sneak back in, or Hanna will take Cheong Ya "Hostage" and this will stop Nam Tae il from blowing up the dorm. But before they do this, they will free that reporter Gil.
In the mean time, with Cheong Ya outside, nothing will stop Nam Tae il from surging forward to attack the dorm. But since Eun Chang Su's recovery is being hidden. Being shot has made Eun Chang Su a new man, he finally realizes the sins of his party, and starts constructing a political power play showing the corruption of the ruling party. He starts gathering evidence, which he will later give to reporter Gil.
With the attack towards the dorm being inevitable, everyone puts their difference aside and prepare for the attack on the dorm. The ANSP attacks the dorm, and gunfight ensues. During the gunfight in the dorm, some people will get killed, a total of 13 of the girl hostage will be killed. Gyeok Chan finally seeing the error of his way ask Soo Ho for a gun, and covers the exit in rambo style as the rest of the hostage escape outside through the shrine. Gyeok Chan and Eun Cheol, finally putting aside their difference will die together while defending the hostages. Boon Ok, also dies during this time, but not before Ms. Pi protects her, who also end up dying. We find out the true relationship between Boon Ok and Ms. Pi.
While escaping somehow Soo Ho will "Die", and Young Ro, Kang Moo will witness this. As Young Ro is tearfully wanting to approach Soo Ho's lifeless body, she is dragged away by Kang Moo. The screen will turn to black and we will have a small time skip.
Gil, having been released earlier, will report all the wrong doings of the ANSP. The reason he has so much evidence, because Eun Chang Su finally does the right thing and snitches on all the wrongs of the ruling party. This will eventually end up being the final nail in the coffin, and the ruling party is defeated. Nam Tae il is sent to jail and scapegoated as being the main man that is trying to kill the hostages. The public turns on the ruling party, and on election day the opposition wins. Chief An, ever the opportunist, will attempt to spin things in his innocence, but Kang Moo and Hanna will bring him up on charges, and he will also go to jail, with Gil actually being living proof of Chief An's corruption.
Gil also reports that all the NK spies have been killed. Cheong Ya returns back to NK and keeping her promise to Soo Ho, she confirms the kill and brings back Soo Ho's locket as proof, and Soo Ho's sister remains safe because of this. Disillusioned by her party, she eventually moves to a country like her discussion with Soo Ho in Ep. 13, bringing Soo Ho's sister with her.
Another time skip, and we see Seoul Hee and Lee Gwang Tae getting married. We see that in truth Seoul Hee's family has no money and Lee Gwang Tae doesn't know about it. During the wedding we see a somber Young Ro. After the wedding, an unknown stranger gives her a recording, which she then listens to. It is the recording of the voice of Soo Ho telling her how much he loves her and etc... In the tape, he mentions a special place that he loved when he was studying in Germany, and he wishes that she will one day visit there, no matter what happens to him. After listing to his recording, she cries, and vows to one day honor Soo Ho's wishes. The scene turns to black.
5 years has passed and somehow Eun Chang Su actually gets elected to presidency. Most of it is because people considered him a bit of a hero who had a lot of tragedy happen to him, and was the person who was ultimately responsible for the downfall of the ruling party. Young Ro graduates from university, and bids her father farewell. Young Ro goes to Germany to visit this place that Soo Ho mentions, and is surprised to see it is a record store, similar to the one where they first meet. Young Ro cries a bit as she reminisces how she and Soo Ho had met and bonded. The person manning the store is the same foreigner as the one in Ep. 13.
The final scene goes like this...
Young Ro: Do you have one way ticket by Eruption?
Foreigner: One second, let me ask my manager.
The foreigner goes behind the curtains and some conversation can be heard.
The ambient music in the store suddenly stops. And we hear the song One-Way ticket start playing in the background.
Out of the curtain comes out Soo Ho, sporting a thick mustache. In his hand, he is holding some Magic Coffee.
The screen cuts to black.
The End
P.S.
I don't think the identity of the mole will ever be found out. But it could possibly be the old man, who is later captured and sent to a political prison. And his useless son, will end up visiting his father to take care of him, and that will be the end of their arc.
This is starting to sound like a Marvel movie.
Well played Disney... well played....
The money $300M based on earlier conversation is enough to bankrupt the party, and yet they are ok with it, because they would rather win poor, then lose and go to jail.
Same here, I watch 90 minutes in a span of roughly 55-58 minutes, if at that even.
The list of things I skip:
-Any scene with the wives.
-Any scene with Hye Roung, Lee Kwang Tae and any hostage that isn't main cast.
-Any scene with Nam Tae il, the president, Eun Chang Su, and even Chief An
- Any other filler stuff. If it feels like filler, I will just FFWD.
- Not to be mean, but I've been skipping Young Ro's crying scenes. I've kind of gotten tired of them...
Lots of logic leaping in this one.
If you've spent any time watching ACTUAL political thrillers, Snowdrop's political plot is watery thin.
I've had more "Huh?" moments, than "Aha" moments.
Unfortunately there is also a lot of bad ones.
The bad ones distract from the good ones.
I've said since day 1, snowdorp needs a smaller cast.
The political angle specifically annoys me so much.
I just make leaps of logic to get past certain parts.
Everytime soo hoo thinks about how his dad want him dead. He tears up and is really sad.
Everytime he thinks of what he has done to young ro, neutral face.
If they really wanted to sell the romance. Having teary or puffy eyes whenever soo ho or young ro thinks about the hopelessness of their romance would do leaps and wonders in making the romance stronger.
To establish this, they need to show young ro not have so many tragedies and not be on constant cry mode. This really weakens the tragedy of the doomed romance of young ro and soo ho.
Seems like a minor change that would help the romance of the show.
Jung hae in is trying his best with his eyes, but the over abundance of tragedies has kind of made their romanctic feelings feel duller.
If you like scenes to have continuity and logic, you may be annoyed with a lot of the actions you will be seeing.
There is a really big cast, and you will tend to find some characters pretty useless. I know I do.
The plot is so-so. Since the run times are quite long, you will find the first half of each episode will be slow and draggy, then the last 30 minutes or so will get exciting.
There isn't much romance, and there is an overarching political plot that isn't well written. I personally skip a lot of scenes.
Some parts will drag, and will feel repetitive after a awhile.
Overall, a so-so drama that isn't boring.
It didn't have much to do with her later acts, people had already decided they wanted to dislike her, so they never gave her a chance. And then it devolved into mob rule, where it was popular to thrash her.
None of the hostages, seem to feel the fear of dying. Like prior to Ep. 13, most of them were worrying about law exams, trips to Europe, it was really only Boon Ok who really understood that she could die that day. None of the other hostages seem to take the situation seriously. And when they showed the concerned parents, Boon Ok's parent's of course were not there. So most of the hostages were comforted knowing that their loving parents are waiting for them outside.
That's the thing, people ASSUME, that boon ok will kill people to survive, or she will sacrifice people for her to gain power. But that isn't shown anywhere, it's mostly conjecture and assumptions. Just like, do we know if Soo Ho had ever planned on pressing the detonator? we can never know since it never happened, or the situation never escalated there. We base her actions on our perceived negative bias of Boon Ok.
it's like imagine 30 people in a room with a bag of money. When the hostage takers come back, he immediately blames Boon Ok without evidence, because she seemed the most likely to do it. It's not a fair rationale and is heavily steeped in bias.
I saw the scene differently, and I explain it in detail in my discussion topic "The Tragedy of Boon Ok"
I won't stop you from hating her, that's your choice. For me, she's plenty redeemable.
She has made some poor decisions, but that doesn't make her a bad person.
Boon Ok's mission is to keep herself alive, because if she dies, her father will have no one to take care of him and he will die also. So she has to do everything needed to make sure she is alive, which may include sacrificing a few people. But we don't understand and sympathize with her?
How is Cheong Ya's reasons more valid than Boon Ok's? They are both doing it for their families. Cheong Ya is just more mature at 36, vs Boon Ok who is 24 years old. People seem to be able to give Young Ro an excuse for being 20 years old, but Boon OK who is only a little bit older is expected to be super mature?
When she had power, she used it to get revenge on Hye Roung and Seoul Hee, the two people who torment her. But if you rewatch the scene, she actually shares the food with all of them, except for her two tormentors. Did she enjoy the power? Yes she did, but didn't really abuse it as much as you think. She enforced it, she made it clear that she was in charge, but she wasn't abusing it, she was just enjoying it. Which is understandable given her background.
Cheong Ya is not her "Boss", what she is instead is to be one of the few people in Boon ok's life to believe in her, to respect her. Why do you think it crushed her so much when she realizes that Cheong Ya is no better than her tormenters? She was actually being loyal to her new "family". Something that wasn't reciprocated by Cheong Ya when she gave Boon Ok an empty gun.
Not that it's an excuse, but Ms. Pi was clearly pushing Boon Ok's button, which felt stupid on Ms. Pi's part. She was provoking a person who isn't very mentally stable.
After finding out that Young Ro is the ANSP directors daughter, the dorm hostages will start turning on her, led by Hye Roung and Seoul Hee. This act will make Boon Ok see Young Ro in a new light, and realize that they are not that different from each other, and Boon Ok will start softening towards Young Ro. This will be the beginning of Boon Ok's redemption arc. Kang moo and Soo Ho on the other hand will have a little bit of trust issues as they deal with the fallout of Kang Moo's apparent betrayal.
In the mean time, Cheong Ya will be wheeling and dealing, and eventually fool Chief An's wife to give her the money necessary for the scheme. They may try to show some sort of cliffhanger, where it "Seems" Cheong Ya has betrayed them. But in reality, Cheong Ya's love for Soo Ho will persevere. She continues with the rest of the plan and contacts Lim Ji Rok to tell him, she has the money. Lim Ji Rok not satisfied with merely the money, is angered that Soo Ho has become an insolent puppy, will give Cheong Ya the instruction to kill Soo Ho. Cheong Ya is aware that Hanna is surveilling her and will confront her, they may have a fight scene of some sort, but eventually Cheong Ya will convince Hanna that she wants to help Soo Ho and Kang Moo. They hatch a plan of how to re-enter the dorm. Two things may happen, either Hanna and Cheong Ya sneak back in, or Hanna will take Cheong Ya "Hostage" and this will stop Nam Tae il from blowing up the dorm. But before they do this, they will free that reporter Gil.
In the mean time, with Cheong Ya outside, nothing will stop Nam Tae il from surging forward to attack the dorm. But since Eun Chang Su's recovery is being hidden. Being shot has made Eun Chang Su a new man, he finally realizes the sins of his party, and starts constructing a political power play showing the corruption of the ruling party. He starts gathering evidence, which he will later give to reporter Gil.
With the attack towards the dorm being inevitable, everyone puts their difference aside and prepare for the attack on the dorm. The ANSP attacks the dorm, and gunfight ensues. During the gunfight in the dorm, some people will get killed, a total of 13 of the girl hostage will be killed. Gyeok Chan finally seeing the error of his way ask Soo Ho for a gun, and covers the exit in rambo style as the rest of the hostage escape outside through the shrine. Gyeok Chan and Eun Cheol, finally putting aside their difference will die together while defending the hostages. Boon Ok, also dies during this time, but not before Ms. Pi protects her, who also end up dying. We find out the true relationship between Boon Ok and Ms. Pi.
While escaping somehow Soo Ho will "Die", and Young Ro, Kang Moo will witness this. As Young Ro is tearfully wanting to approach Soo Ho's lifeless body, she is dragged away by Kang Moo. The screen will turn to black and we will have a small time skip.
Gil, having been released earlier, will report all the wrong doings of the ANSP. The reason he has so much evidence, because Eun Chang Su finally does the right thing and snitches on all the wrongs of the ruling party. This will eventually end up being the final nail in the coffin, and the ruling party is defeated. Nam Tae il is sent to jail and scapegoated as being the main man that is trying to kill the hostages. The public turns on the ruling party, and on election day the opposition wins. Chief An, ever the opportunist, will attempt to spin things in his innocence, but Kang Moo and Hanna will bring him up on charges, and he will also go to jail, with Gil actually being living proof of Chief An's corruption.
Gil also reports that all the NK spies have been killed. Cheong Ya returns back to NK and keeping her promise to Soo Ho, she confirms the kill and brings back Soo Ho's locket as proof, and Soo Ho's sister remains safe because of this. Disillusioned by her party, she eventually moves to a country like her discussion with Soo Ho in Ep. 13, bringing Soo Ho's sister with her.
Another time skip, and we see Seoul Hee and Lee Gwang Tae getting married. We see that in truth Seoul Hee's family has no money and Lee Gwang Tae doesn't know about it. During the wedding we see a somber Young Ro. After the wedding, an unknown stranger gives her a recording, which she then listens to. It is the recording of the voice of Soo Ho telling her how much he loves her and etc... In the tape, he mentions a special place that he loved when he was studying in Germany, and he wishes that she will one day visit there, no matter what happens to him. After listing to his recording, she cries, and vows to one day honor Soo Ho's wishes. The scene turns to black.
5 years has passed and somehow Eun Chang Su actually gets elected to presidency. Most of it is because people considered him a bit of a hero who had a lot of tragedy happen to him, and was the person who was ultimately responsible for the downfall of the ruling party. Young Ro graduates from university, and bids her father farewell. Young Ro goes to Germany to visit this place that Soo Ho mentions, and is surprised to see it is a record store, similar to the one where they first meet. Young Ro cries a bit as she reminisces how she and Soo Ho had met and bonded. The person manning the store is the same foreigner as the one in Ep. 13.
The final scene goes like this...
Young Ro: Do you have one way ticket by Eruption?
Foreigner: One second, let me ask my manager.
The foreigner goes behind the curtains and some conversation can be heard.
The ambient music in the store suddenly stops. And we hear the song One-Way ticket start playing in the background.
Out of the curtain comes out Soo Ho, sporting a thick mustache. In his hand, he is holding some Magic Coffee.
The screen cuts to black.
The End
P.S.
I don't think the identity of the mole will ever be found out. But it could possibly be the old man, who is later captured and sent to a political prison. And his useless son, will end up visiting his father to take care of him, and that will be the end of their arc.
Read below.