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Replying to Kimsamsoom Nov 18, 2020
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lol. easily Saha :)
Because she's awesome.

I think I misread, I thought you said liked the best.
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Replying to Kimsamsoom Nov 18, 2020
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Revenge
Most likely HJP being HJP. We see that when HJP talks to NDS about investing in Samsam Tech, he is very realistic and harsh.

This makes someone like NDS very sad, and could easily have made Yong San's brother suicidal.
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Replying to Who cares Nov 18, 2020
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I am HJP fan but NDS didn't do it for investment please don't get confused and interpret it wrongly...
NDS wasn't entrapped. He admits it was his own choice.
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Replying to Who cares Nov 18, 2020
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I am HJP fan but NDS didn't do it for investment please don't get confused and interpret it wrongly...
lying is not sincerity
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Replying to Who cares Nov 18, 2020
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I am HJP fan but NDS didn't do it for investment please don't get confused and interpret it wrongly...
Not accurate.
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Replying to OneAjhussi Nov 18, 2020
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No. Do San did not approach Dal Mi because he needed investment. He needed money for SST and sold some belongings…
NDS is lucky HJP intervened, otherwise he would still be stuck in their basement office and unloved.

HJP is confirmed NDS guardian angel.
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Replying to Conuna Nov 18, 2020
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Team Han 4ever.I am going to pray to meet guy like Mr Han. Hahhaaa I know that's just a drama but Mr. Han is such…
We all dream of meeting HJP, but we end up meeting countless of insecure NDS instead :(
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Replying to InaBalerina Nov 18, 2020
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There should be a new kdrama. About this section :)))
this may be the worst show with the most active comment section here on MDL.

Oh wait, I forgot that The King Eternal exist, my bad.
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Replying to Purple Orchids Nov 18, 2020
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I find that this drama is actually all about deception and all forms of deception. Yes, we feel bad for Dalmi…
nice take!
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Replying to OneAjhussi Nov 18, 2020
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People who only see what they want to see are bound to be disappointed. Some are already very salty here...
it's an astute observation.

On one hand you say, you are completely satisfied and not salty.

But your tone, and the words you choose are full of NaCL.

A winner who belittles the loser, is not a winner at all.
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Replying to RawRawad Nov 18, 2020
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"If someone is nice to you but rude to the waiter, is not a nice person." - Dave BarryThat's why I hate HJP, He's…
I think you misunderstood Dave Barry's quote.

The true merit of a person, is not how nice he is to the people he love, but rather how nice he is to the people he doesn't respect.

NDS is nice to SDM because he loves her, he doesn't respect HJP so he is rude to him.

So from the quote, NDS is actually not a nice person.

Just wanted to correct your usage of this quote.
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On Start-Up Nov 18, 2020
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Unpopular Opinion.

The reason that HJP and SDM scenes are stronger than NDS and SDM scene is because.

A. KSH is a better micro facial actor than NDS

B. KSH and Suzy have better chemistry.
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Replying to Ahead Nov 18, 2020
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Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. HJP is PERFECT! (Character, Behaviour, Personality)But love got nothing to do with it. SDM &…
how are they more sincere? How can SDM be sincere when she was mislead?
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Replying to Who cares Nov 18, 2020
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Feels like before she liked NDS you were her boyfriend. You know about her taste very well. We all know that she…
To criticize is not equal to being an anti. Everyone can be criticized, including heroes and gods.
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Replying to Who cares Nov 18, 2020
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Feels like before she liked NDS you were her boyfriend. You know about her taste very well. We all know that she…
I kind of start to get the feeling you are talking about your own experience, instead of the show. That we are not talking about HJP and SDM anymore, but about you and somebody who may have hurt you by being harsh.

I'd like to give some advice to you if you don't mind.

In this world we live in, a lot of people in the world are socially inept. And sometimes those manifest in the guise of being condescending, strict, raising their voice, and yelling.

I am not saying it feels good when it's directed at you, but maybe sometimes try to see why these people are like this. By learning to understand other people, it allows us to see the message being directed towards us.

Cheer up!
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Replying to OneAjhussi Nov 18, 2020
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HJP lacks the basic sense of empathy and consideration for others because nobody really cared for him when he…
I agree, SDM is not HJP, he has allowed the image of who SDM is thru the letters cloud his vision on who SDM truly is. He could really be doing a lot better than SDM. But he has allowed his childhood love for her to cloud his judgement.

But I don't agree that NDS is meant for SDM.

To be honest, a lot of this support that SDM is getting from NDS, she doesn't really need. In fact the "support" form NDS has become quite suffocating and is stunting SDM's own personal growth.

To NDS with his poor self esteem and insecurities, had no choice but to fall for his first love. He is getting all the benefits of their relationship. But as we have seen from SDM and HJP, first love, is just that a first love.

But go ahead and ship SDM and NDS, but I don't think they are MFEO. I never get that feeling in this drama, SDM might be the best mate for NDS, but NDS is not the best match for SDM, NDS personality as he is is not one that will help SDM grow.

But who knows, that is what time skips are for.
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Replying to Emma summer 134 Nov 18, 2020
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OK but are none of u guys gonna talk about who or what did KYS ‘s brother have to do with the second male lead
Revenge
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Replying to S_A Nov 18, 2020
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I don't have a second main lead syndrom in a romantic way but I like the second main lead much more than the main…
I think a big part of this reason is that.

For NDS, his path and character arc is very predictable and boring. For SDM and WIJ, their character arc and growth is already set in stone. NDS will be successful, richer than HJP even, he will mature and SDM will love him, blah blah blah Ever since he won the CODA competition, this was his only possible arc. Since that time, his company never faces any real danger.

But for HJP, we literally don't know how his story will end. His character arc is prone to many theories, and it is exciting.
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Replying to Kimsamsoom Nov 18, 2020
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To be quite frank, Start Up could have been an amazing show. The first episode is probably one of the more effectual…
No, the cheating on the test didn't matter, he was still a genius. NDS mentality is that he allows small negativities discount the the big positive things. And he never taps into his potential, often wasting it. What the first few episodes shows is that some people need the right push from the right person to achieve their potential.

For NDS, the one pushing him has always been SDM. It was only her support he needed. But for SDM, NDS gave her the means to reach her goals, but only as a tool, and not as a person. If NDS had not chosen her, and she had chosen another company, she most likely could have still succeeded due to her drive.

I disagree on the notion that NDS feels he didn't deserve certain things. Quite the contrary actually, because of his background, because of his parents, he felt that he has nothing in his life. So whenever he sees this little miracles, or winds of luck, he is quick to latch on.

A person who had more confidence would not latch on to every single positive thing that comes along, but due to NDS lack of confidence, every good thing that comes along he latches on tightly. As his confidence grew, he grew some clarity, and started choosing what he latches on to.

The character of NDS really has a lot to do with bad writing. Yes, NDS is selfish, immature and insecure. The problem is the writers dialed those emotions too much, that most people had trouble relating to NDS, regardless of his backstory. The writers did not find a proper balance between HJP. They knowingly mired NDS character in the mid, while unknowingly set up HJP to be the tragic hero.

They then created a time skip, as part of the plot to "fix" nds poor qualities. It just feels like lazy writing Good writers don't need time skips, as time skips cheapen a lot of the emotions audiences have felt for the characters. Plus the time skip is supposed to be 3-4 years. People get married and have kids and do a lot of great and bad things in that span of time.

I write about HJP cowardice as being his biggest flaw. He still has a lot to grow character wise. NDS has always had his trajectory set in stone. In fact when we were first introduced to Alex from 2STO, I already knew that NDS would eventually come to work for 2STO, his arc was in that sense very predictable and not as exciting.

HJP on the other hand, as you said is already successful, so the hole in his heart arc was quite unpredictable. I think until now, I dont know how his arc will end, as he continues to sabotage his own path to success with his cowardice. Which makes for a more exciting character.

Yeah, to be honest as I've mentioned before, the show in it's first 2 episodes showed a lot of promise. But as each new episodes have come out, it's become a very cliched love triangle story, where the ending has become very very predictable. The show is no longer a smart show, just your standard cliche love triangle type of drama. And that is where I think the writers have drop the ball. The only interesting character is HJP. WIJ could have been one as well, but she has not much screen time.

We cannot judge HJP's path to success, we are not shown his path, so we should not judge how hard or easy it was.

3 Main characters. WIJ, with her amount of screen time doesnt' count. I no longer look at the whose better, whose good, whose bad. I'm looking forward more to the remaining character arc. And SDM and NDS arc for me is already done, their path to success and ending is highly predictable and thus boring to me.

HJP is the one i'm invested in, because I don't know where or how he will end up, and that is what makes me excited.
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Replying to Polo749 Nov 17, 2020
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Okay, I've finally done it. I've finally convinced myself that HJP is the lead. I'm so screwed.
Be ready for a world of pain :(
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