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Replying to Kimsamsoom Nov 17, 2020
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I think a lot of the mistakes you point out here falls on the writers shoulder. Let me explain.In the writers…
this is my first time to see NJH so I can't comment on it.

But I will say one thing, NDS is suppose to be this insecure, low self esteem, and supposedly awkward guy.

The NDS that I noticed is someone who is a bit neurotic, with a spiteful edge in him, who is always looking down, and you feel he is thinking all these not so good thoughts. Ever since ep 3 he has lost all innocence he used to have. And i'm not sure if that's what the writer had intended.
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Replying to ponnu Nov 17, 2020
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he isnt pursuing her even now... he told her he likes her and took a back seat and didnt do anything just to pursue…
The way I see it, HJP purposely downplayed his confession. He didn't do any grand gesture, or brought gifts or tried to impress her.

He easily could have said things like, the connection they had 15 years ago was real and etc... But it seems more like he is just giving her a heads up, it's up to her what she does with the info, and it's no pressure.

I think he was also letting her know if she decided to choose NDS, he would be ok with it.

Now, some people saw the way he talked to Dosan to tell that he confessed to dalmi was him gloating his victory over NDS. I didn't see it that way. I think HJP was just being frank and honest, and letting NDS know that SDM knows about HJP feelings for her. Because if HJP wanted to compete, he could have said some gloating words, like i'm coming to get your girl, or i'll make SDM mine or something. But instead, he just tells NDS matter of fact, that he can't be helping NDSN no more because he confessed to like SDM.
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Replying to ponnu Nov 17, 2020
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he isnt pursuing her even now... he told her he likes her and took a back seat and didnt do anything just to pursue…
the hjp i've come to love, I cannot imagine he will make the moves on SDM while NDS is gone. Plus grandma will meddle for sure, she's team dosan.
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Replying to ponnu Nov 17, 2020
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he isnt pursuing her even now... he told her he likes her and took a back seat and didnt do anything just to pursue…
Interesting take. But I don't think I agree.
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Replying to ponnu Nov 17, 2020
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he isnt pursuing her even now... he told her he likes her and took a back seat and didnt do anything just to pursue…
Ofc I prefer a HJP end game, but I also know 99.9% it's dosan end game.

I also prefer the second lead, but I have no problem if FL ends with ML or ends up with no men in her life. I just want to see where HJP journey will end.

I actually see HJP more as the ML, and SDM and NDS are both supporting characters hahaha
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Replying to OneAjhussi Nov 17, 2020
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HJP is harsh with his words but I don't think he caused the suicide and he will stop to pursue Dal Mi because…
interesting take. But not sure yongsan would allow HJP to get closer.
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Replying to ponnu Nov 17, 2020
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he isnt pursuing her even now... he told her he likes her and took a back seat and didnt do anything just to pursue…
looks like someone has SLS.
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Replying to Purple Orchids Nov 17, 2020
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I sometimes think the writer intended to create a adorkable, naïve, sensitive, and pure hearted character (like…
I think the problem is not NJH, it's the character.

Initially, Ep. 1 NDS is someone most tech guys/programmers/engineers can relate too. Plays videogames, sloppy, doesn't dress well, socially awkward, and etc...

They should have stuck with that, then very slowly, start showing his insecurities, ambition, flaws, and etc...

But nope, the writers and PD were like, ok, we're going to change his character to be an angsty teenager, with huge insecurity issues, problems with authority, and a great haircut! while trying to keep his ep. 1 characteristic.

The problem is, they failed. What so many people fell in love with in early NDS disappeared after he changes to the suit and got the haircut.

So fans were only able to fall in love with him for max 2 episodes, after that it's been gaffe after gaffe.

HJP on the other hand, started on the right foot, we see a young man whose rough exterior and harsh words hides a very vulnerable, damaged, man who yearns for a family in his life. And since HJP's characterization as the good boy stays consistent up until Ep 7 or max Ep. 8, he has built a bigger fanbase than NDS, as more people have enjoyed and related better to his character.
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Replying to OneAjhussi Nov 17, 2020
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HJP is harsh with his words but I don't think he caused the suicide and he will stop to pursue Dal Mi because…
indirectly cause
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Replying to Purple Orchids Nov 17, 2020
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I sometimes think the writer intended to create a adorkable, naïve, sensitive, and pure hearted character (like…
speaking of, I think kang ha neul would completely nail the role of NDS.
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Replying to jen Nov 17, 2020
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can yall just relax and enjoy a drama
To be honest, it's kind of hard to when the episode breakdown is like this.

90% love triangle
5% move the business side of the plot
5% side character, including WIJ

This drama is just one big giant love triangle, with plot sprinkled in between.

Like what else is there to discuss with the show, i'm curious? Other than the love triangle, nothing else is fleshed out.
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Replying to 陈良玉 Nov 17, 2020
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How was it? I really don't want to bear with second lead syndrome lol
If you like men who helps the girl behind the scenes, and is not very upfront with their love, then you'll get SLS.
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Replying to sazousa Nov 17, 2020
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I'm afraid that HJP will find out that an harsh feedback somehow triggered the suicide because to that person…
wow, this sounds pretty plausible. Don't show this to writers.
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Replying to MyBallsAreHuge Nov 17, 2020
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Its one of the best dramas of 2020, don't worry. Production quality is out of this world. Some people are just…
it's smart marketing, get more viewer this way.
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Replying to MyBallsAreHuge Nov 17, 2020
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Its one of the best dramas of 2020, don't worry. Production quality is out of this world. Some people are just…
Get out of my mind and copying my notes :)
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Replying to Kimsamsoom Nov 17, 2020
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I think a lot of the mistakes you point out here falls on the writers shoulder. Let me explain.In the writers…
well said.
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Replying to aeriaalism Nov 17, 2020
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@sazousa @Lilli_ I mean, I just met you both in the comment section but a nice bit of news for NJH is that he's…
hopefully KSH is cast as second lead there as well, so we can see all the fun again :)
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Replying to Dreamy Nov 17, 2020
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So I don't get why the writer intentionally make a very complex, layered, mature second lead character with depth…
The moral lesson of the story is.

Older and rich people are jealous of young and passionate people. This is a recurring theme in the show actually if you think about it.

HJP and WIJ are older and more successful, yet they are jealous of younger NDS and SDM.

Also another lesson is about how young people will complain and hate old rich people, but when rich and old people give them money/advice/support, then they pretend to be friends, then once they get it, back to hating.

It's a mirror to current society hahaha :)
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Replying to _niudi Nov 17, 2020
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Just stay out of the comment section as of now. It’s heated down there, but don’t let it affect you on wanting…
It could have been great.

Seeing korea's silicon valley, learning how corporate korea works, a preview of the upcoming tech in korea. A deeper insight into how incubators and start ups work in Asia.

I mean Start Up in itself would have been a great advertisement for the robustness of the tech sector in korea. To brag about how advanced they are compared to other countries.

But what we get is a veeerrrryyy watered down version of google.

But yeah... what could have been.
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Replying to Zelle Nov 17, 2020
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some commenters here wanted to stop the shipping wars here in MDL and focus on the story and yet, there are some…
HJP has flaws for sure, but so does NDS. If HJP is a devil, then NDS is his brother.
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