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Replying to Kimsamsoom Jun 7, 2020
The same point as Jo Yeoung and Eun Sub to show how great the actor/actress is.By the way KGE acting is pretty…
Why did you not like the ending?
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Replying to Kimsamsoom Jun 7, 2020
Episode 14 - 15 Explained.First of, you have to shut off the left portion of your brain. Forget all logic, forget…
Yeah they are not going to be seperated. Basically we are going to see a replay of Episode 14, but future LG will be with TE, and LG will be with JY.

Yeah, I think your assumption is right. Either JY or TE will save baby LG.

I don't expect much more confusing things for last episode. Will probably end with wedding scene then the end, next drama.
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Replying to Kimsamsoom Jun 7, 2020
The same point as Jo Yeoung and Eun Sub to show how great the actor/actress is.By the way KGE acting is pretty…
She annoyed me in Goblin as well. I had to constantly remind myself she's suppose to be a high schooler. And the way she kept calling Gong Yoo ahjusshi was creepy.

I loved the peach couple tho!

Yes, her acting is better than LMH. LMH is too stiff, and a one dimensional actor. He needs to play a poor guy for once.
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Replying to Kimsamsoom Jun 7, 2020
The same point as Jo Yeoung and Eun Sub to show how great the actor/actress is.By the way KGE acting is pretty…
I'm joking ofc, she makes that joke in episode 2 or 3 I think.

It's actually mentioned that KGE's father didn't allow her to get double eyelid surgery when she was younger. I think I read this somewhere.
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Replying to Noa Jun 7, 2020
Thank God this is just your opinion.
Can't tell if your a defender of the show or a critic of the show.

I'm confused.
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Replying to pcharlotte787 Jun 7, 2020
The lovers of the drama also prefer to discuss theories in discussion topics where we don't get harassed and bullied…
I'm starting to think Maximus and Charlotte are one person.
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Replying to pcharlotte787 Jun 7, 2020
The lovers of the drama also prefer to discuss theories in discussion topics where we don't get harassed and bullied…
Ok, go ahead and write down the positive aspects of KTEM, and refute all the negative aspects with proper reasoning.

Please kindly also direct what you feel a certain thing is so and so, and please back it up with objective, rather than subjective.

Then we can have a discussion.
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Replying to Kimsamsoom Jun 7, 2020
The same point as Jo Yeoung and Eun Sub to show how great the actor/actress is.By the way KGE acting is pretty…
It's her parents fault for not allowing her to get double eyelid surgery. It's hard for her to express proper emotions and acting with just a monolid.
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Replying to Kimsamsoom Jun 7, 2020
Episode 14 - 15 Explained.First of, you have to shut off the left portion of your brain. Forget all logic, forget…
I drank a ton of Soju, and just started writing. KES style!
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Replying to snakeu Jun 7, 2020
yo quick question: what was the point of jeong taeul and luna in this drama?
The same point as Jo Yeoung and Eun Sub to show how great the actor/actress is.

By the way KGE acting is pretty bad, when she's playing both Luna and TE, I could not tell the difference, the acting was too similar.

Big diff from ES and JY
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Replying to Ryeji Jun 7, 2020
This could have been a great drama if they let the romance happen as the events between the ML and FL path intertwined…
I'm not a fan of KGE, but she's better here than in Goblin. LMH is intolerable though. I much prefer LR's actor.

Plus PM acting is better than KGE here. I am expecting big things for Jung Eun Chae after this,
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Replying to chase_potato Jun 7, 2020
How does the Lee Lim who kills himself in the past.... arrive in the same timeline that we are watching right…
It's an alternative timeline, Beta, please read my explanation in Topics, I discuss this.
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Replying to pcharlotte787 Jun 7, 2020
The Lee Lim of 1994 killed the time-travelling Lee Lim from 2020. Then the 1994 Lee Lim did not go back to 1994…
There are tons of allusions in KTEM about Fate being predetermined.

So it's all quite contradictory.

And it's just lazy writing, nothing changes from 1994 to 2020. With the amount of things LG and LR did in the past, the future should have changed drastically via the butterfly effect.

But butterfly effect lost to plot armor, go figure.
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Replying to Pranksalot Jun 7, 2020
No you are right, he shouldn’t be alive. Plot hole. If 2020 LR dies on April 15, 2020 then 1994 LR should only…
Logically speaking, there should be 2. Every time travel theory out there, multiple shows/movies and etc... all follow the theory that at this point in time, the way KTEM is doing things, there would be more than 1 gon.

In fact, the theory does exist that you 5 minutes from now, and you 10 minutes from now are two different people.

Let me leave this video as explanation:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CII_Q2aXa-k

But KTEM just kinda ignores this, so w/e MAGIC!
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Replying to Yenki Jun 7, 2020
It's funny how the tough and badass characters at the beginning suddenly became hella useless at the end.
It was his destiny to be a horrible villain, he could not escape his destiny in the end.
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Replying to pcharlotte787 Jun 7, 2020
i was wowed by episodes 14 and 15. it seems that those who don't like this drama are more vocal than those who…
well logically speaking.

The criticisms on the show are plentiful, mostly backed with empirical evidence, quotes, ratings and etc...

The positives of the show are mostly opinion based on fantasy, so it's harder to back up the positive points.

Trust me Charlotte, "LMH is a great actor and SOOOO HANDSOME!" Isn't a thought provoking argument.
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Replying to Kimsamsoom Jun 7, 2020
The explanation of EP 14 - 15 time travel/parallel world: See below. I also made a topic discussion above.By the…
Episode 14 - 15 Explained.

First of, you have to shut off the left portion of your brain. Forget all logic, forget all plot holes, forget in everything you've read up to this point in time travel and parallel universe. AND please believe in the power of love.

First some ground rules on the Manpashikjeok:

When the flute is whole, the owner has the power to travel to any point in time, has the power to make time stand still, has the power to achieve immortality(never aging) and basically become a God. Also when the flute is together, you are able to travel at the approximate time when you are suppose to save yourself. The word save yourself here is very ambigious as it can mean saving from dying, saving from failing and etc...

When the flute is halved, both users cannot control the time stops. The reason time stops is simple. Imagine being in an air conditioned room, and when you open the door to leave, some of the cold air escapes. When you use the flute, you end up in time space world, where everything as you can see is stopped, the balloons the coin LG flips, so when they leave to enter a world, whether Korea or Corea, some of that time freeze seeps out into the world.

There are two bamboo forest. One for LG, and one for LR. Only LR can open his gate, and only LG can open his gate.

The two halves of the flute yearn for each other call for the other half. Thus LG and LR hear the so called song. And they only hear it when both flutes are close to each other and near one of the gates. And only the owner of the flute will hear it. That is why when LG captures LR, eventho the flute is together, LG can't hear it, because they are at LR's gate. Once both flutes enter the time space world, the owners of the flute can then time travel.

When the two halves cannot sense each other, the flutes power is diminished and the owners can only travel from Corea to Korea. And each time they travel the time stops get longer and longer. Technically, time should already be at a stand still, but you know romance would not allow it. There will be a point in time when time will just completely stop, but ofc it won't happen here.

When time is stopped, the physics become contradictory. You are not affected if you are LG. For example, remember the scene of LR henchmen where the waves just stop? So we know in this time space, liquid also stops. We see that LR is unable to take out the liquid from the injection to save LG fake mom, and unable to fire the gun. But, we see LG able to write a note to JY. How is the pen suppose to write if the liquid in the pen is supposed to be in suspended animation? We will never know. But basically time stops only benefit LG and harms LR.

Now that we know about the ground rules, on to the explanation of wtf happened in 14-15

So basically, let us agree that there is a main timeline, that we'll call Alpha for now. Ep 1-14 are all on Alpha Timeline.

When LR and LG went back to 1994 with the flute, different things happened, 1994 LR killed 2020 LR, LG shows his face to Lady Noh, he shoots Prince Buyeong's Son, and other things. Point being, he created an alternative timeline which we will call Beta.

LG only has half the flute, so he can only travel lateral, like he says. Meaning he can go side to side from Corea to Korea. BUT he also has the power to move across timelines, providing the timelines are in the same point in time, are are on parallel trajectories. So if Beta were to go on a different tangent, he would not be able to travel there, since it needs to be on a parallel lines.

But with all the changes he has done in timeline alpha, there is no way it won't diverge into timeline B and be a completely off tangent and a different future. So to ensure both timelines Alpha and Beta are parallel, thus enabling him to travel across them, he needed to change things about timeline A to match time line B, and thus begin leaving clues for TE, seeing baby TE, and etc... And probably more things behind the scenes, he is banking on TE being able to ensure the timelines Alpha and Beta stay parallel.

Also he needed to make sure he doesn't age, otherwise TE might be grossed out if LG is 60 years old when they meet. So he spends majority of his time in time space world, where he doesn't age.

When TE meets LG on a horse in end of ep 14, that is basically confirmation to LG that both timelines Alpha and Beta are parallel.

When the time came, where we reach the right time, where TE gets stabbed by Luna, LG is able to use the flute to rejoin TE in timeline alpha. since they are now parallel.

Although LG and TE are reunited, and LR has been captured, LG is haunted by all the atrocities LR has done. Although, LG could have just ignored things and be happy with TE, he wanted to be a noble idiot and make sure nobody dies to LR, so he plans to go back in time to before the coup happened, but instead of saving himself, he will kill LR instead.

This will effectively create Timeline Charlie, where there is no guarantee if TE and LG will be able to meet. So TE plans to travel back to timeline charlie also to be with LG.
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On The King: Eternal Monarch Jun 7, 2020
The explanation of EP 14 - 15 time travel/parallel world: See below. I also made a topic discussion above.

By the way, eventhough I understood the complexities of the show. This is still by far the worst drama i've ever seen. Will not rewatch or recommend.

JY, ES, Nari, PM, SJ, even LR all deserve better.
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Replying to The King: Eternal Monarch Jun 7, 2020
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- Yes Luna is shown to be a criminal with a heart of Gold. She doesn't give enough LG poison, but rather sleeping pills. That is why LG takes forever to die, while LG fake mom dies in a span of 10 seconds.

She also gives TE a shallow stab wound cuz she's not that evil of a person.

-And apparently cancer can be cured by liver/kidney transplants now. Good to know.

-i'm going to explain the whole time thing on my TOPIC up above, just haven't had the time to finish it.

-LG and LR don't freeze because they are the true owners of half of the flute, regardless if they are holding or not, their blood is mixed into the flute.

-Sj, JY, PM all wasted. It's all true.

- RIP Mom of PM
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