Luna will die for sure, because she's sick.one of the LG will die also, because TE can't have 2 guys. Or can she?
Yes, I understand it, that's why at the end of ep 14, we have two 32 year old LG. But if you include LG from ep 1, there shoud be 3. Where is the 3rd LG?
To be frank, the show is not as deep as people think, But this is what you get when you place literature students,…
Sure, theories are fun. Just saying, people are coming up with these theories to propogate the idea that KTEM is a masterpiece of a show, and the smartest show ever written, and people hate it because they are not thinking of all the theories of the show, or not understanding the ism.
My point is simply, if this is their way of thinking, then that same thinking can be applied to every single show/movie out there. No matter how many people hate it/pan it, I can come up with theories and ism to make it more interesting than it really is. I can add complexities to almost everything. I can defend any position.
I'm just responding to those Soompi forums theories. Technically speaking, the shorter the media, the more the analysis. That is why poetry and Haiku, command the fiercest debates, because the writer writes only a few lines or prose, and the reader has to dissect and understand what the writer meant, which becomes harder when said writer has passed away. The writers have a limited space to express a myriad of thoughts ,so each word, each sentence has meaning, has weight.
But a 16 episode Kdrama, has no need for this. Thus the over analysis I find is a bit overboard.
Goddamn my head hurts so much from reading thr soompi forums of TKEM. There are so many things I missed and some…
To be frank, the show is not as deep as people think, But this is what you get when you place literature students, or creative writing wanna bes in a position to review KTEM.
You can overanalyze, you can insert theorems, add all the ism's you want to almost every single literary work out there.
Do you want me to make a 100 page essay on how the movie of Jim Carrey, Dumb and Dumber is actually a genius masterpiece, that shows dystopian values in a unchanging world. Or maybe I can write about another ism.
The fact of the matter, if you have to whip out google to research certain topics to prove a show is good, then the show is not that good.
Watch any medical drama, they use so many obscure terms, but guess what, they explain each term and confusing term so that the viewer can stay engaged and not get confused.
Trying to find meaning, when the writer herself said, she is not trying to place meaning, is just reaching.
In Episode 6, we see someone painting LG portrait, then in Ep 14, we see the finished product.
It is very obvious to me as a savvy viewer, that Lee RIm's grand evil plan, is to have an amateur doppleganger take over the identity of the man in episode 6, so that he can paint an ugly painting/portrait of LG.
- SJ doppleganger kept alive, maybe because if he was dead, everytime there is thunder SJ would get that scar thing, and start to be suspicious, and he's a cop, so maybe he would investigate.
- Yeah painting was bad, lol
- Yeah, I have trouble with them making Luna evil, but not evil enough. It was so anticlimatic
- The mask was most likely given to Eunsup as a gift, along with the maserati, plus PPL you know.
- those images I believe are to represent timelines, because it only appears when the axis to move forward and backward in time appear.
- When the flute is one, the holder can travel back to when they save themselves, in this case he is saving his past self from failing the coup. It's a weak argument, but thats what the writer is saying.
- He never possesses the full flute
- The writer is trying to portray 1994 and 2020 LR as having too much arrogance. Basically, trying to be ironic, killed by his own arrogance. It was symbolic more than anything. Yeah LR is worst villain ever.
- Yes, LR can never go past that point in time in 2020, It's an infinite time loop
- LG flute does not vanish, because if it vanishes, then he's stuck in 1994 Corea and will be 57 years old by the time he is able to see TE.
- LG travels back in time because yoyo boy says that's the rules, when LR and LG are in time space world at same time, they can access the time when they have to save themselves.
- TE is effectively the damsel in distress. Cinderella has come.
- Yeah basically SJ arc is wasted, agreed.
- LG wants to make sure TE will wait for him.
- The friend of TE in the police, just so happens to listen to an old recording, lol. It's coincidence basically
- no clue on preggo lady
- PM will be new villain
- LR can't travel to all timelines, just that one point where LG also travelled to.
- It should be years by now your right. But you know movie magic.
Here are my questions:1. How did yoyo boy and Gang Shin Jae meet up in that alley?2. I don't understand the timeline…
1. Not explained, if the boy is the flute, he may have travelled to Korea, or maybe she is in Corea, who knows, it doesn't matter though. It was used as a plot device to explain what happens when LR and LG are in the time space area together.
2. There are infinite number of timelines and two parallel worlds.
3. He calculated it. 1 day in the special time world is 76 days approximately in the real world.
4. I forget the math, he explains it in 1 episode. But the time stops start at 3 seconds, and ends up being 1 hour. Thats an increase of 1,200%. So assuming that since then it's increased by that much again, since he and LR have been parallel jumping like crazy since then. But the calculation I believe is 30 days, each time freeze. You know, if they bother following the math.
5. No, LG followed the exact same past/future, so it would only make sense LR did as well. It will end up being an infinite time loop.
6. Reasons.
If this show is logical. Once past LR sees his coup has failed, he will believe future LR's predictions. Which means, sometimes between 8 years old and 32 years old, he had many opportunities to kill LG. He even had Shinjae mom in the palace working. But you know, that would not fit their narrative so nope.
What if The king (LG) went back saved himself as a child but also stayed alive as an individual so now there are…
Like i've said before. a clearer writing direction, would be for Luna to succeed in killing TE, take TE place when LG goes to Korea, and let them fall in love. And have the LG in black die, because the TE he loved also died.
Which part did you not understand?Basically to simplify. LG saves himself. LR dies. Since he can't find LR, he…
in the episode we are all caught up back to the time when LG first meets TE, so 1994 LR is still alive, Future LR is dead.
So there are 2 LG, but only 1 LR now.
BUT, LR will die again, because we will have to fast forward to the current time where LR is dead, otherwise we neglect the other side stories of Shinjae finding himself, PM going crazy and etc... And by that time future LR should be dead, and past LR will be dead, to go to another past LR.
But the way things are setting up, PM will be main bad guy, because PM doesn't just want to ally with LR, she wants the power for herself.
All it means is that LR, whether past or future or present, can never go pass that point in time. Because everytime…
well at the moment there is, because the "future" is still the part where LG first meets TE, the part where future LG travels back won't be for a few more months.
Which part did you not understand?Basically to simplify. LG saves himself. LR dies. Since he can't find LR, he…
Yeah that information didn't change the timeline, the future is still exactly the same.
Logically speaking, after past LR saw his coup fail, and that future LR is correct. He already had Shinjae's mom planted in the palace as a spy. At any time between the age of 8 - 32, LR already knew LG would defeat him and save himself in the future, he could have killed LG at any time with this extra information, but the future stays the same, which means LR does EXACTLY the same thing future LR did, which will include him going back in the past, thinking for sure he will be able to convince his past self to kill.
I believe the flute disappear was due future Lee rim dying , because the flute didn't belong to that timeline.By…
Yeah, LG being alive should not affect whether or not the flute disappears as the flute isn't directly died to either LG or LR. When one half disappears, the other should as well, its shown in most fantasy worlds to work that way.
That's what i'm saying, he goes there to supposedly save himself, but ends up dying, it's contradictory to what we've been told by yoyo boy. Plus like I said, technically, a LR from 1 minute from the moment he time travels, would have this information, and he would be able to go back and change it.
Because this is the Time travel story the writer wanted to use, a world with infinite number of LR and LG existing in the same time field is possible.
I believe the flute disappear was due future Lee rim dying , because the flute didn't belong to that timeline.By…
So, LG flute should also disappear, and it didn't, using that same concept.
Yes, that is what yoyo boy meant when save yourself. Save your past life self, which wasn't what happened. If anything, LR should have transported to a time when he was actually going to die from LG or something.
But you know, who needs logic, when you got romance!
So, guys, this Drama is making me mad and I can't understand anything because like I feel like I'm the stupid…
Which part did you not understand?
Basically to simplify. LG saves himself. LR dies. Since he can't find LR, he can't form the flute. Only if the flute is whole will he be able to travel back to future.
So he can go to Corea and Korea, but can't travel back or forth. So he waits in time space world with balloons until time has caught up to him and he will meet adult TE. He also leaves clues to TE so she knows to wait for him.
There is also two LG, baby LG who grows up and meets TE in the end, and the future LG who is waiting in time space world.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CII_Q2aXa-k
My point is simply, if this is their way of thinking, then that same thinking can be applied to every single show/movie out there. No matter how many people hate it/pan it, I can come up with theories and ism to make it more interesting than it really is. I can add complexities to almost everything. I can defend any position.
I'm just responding to those Soompi forums theories. Technically speaking, the shorter the media, the more the analysis. That is why poetry and Haiku, command the fiercest debates, because the writer writes only a few lines or prose, and the reader has to dissect and understand what the writer meant, which becomes harder when said writer has passed away. The writers have a limited space to express a myriad of thoughts ,so each word, each sentence has meaning, has weight.
But a 16 episode Kdrama, has no need for this. Thus the over analysis I find is a bit overboard.
LG will complete wand, and wish everyone but the bad guys to have happy ending.
The End.
You can overanalyze, you can insert theorems, add all the ism's you want to almost every single literary work out there.
Do you want me to make a 100 page essay on how the movie of Jim Carrey, Dumb and Dumber is actually a genius masterpiece, that shows dystopian values in a unchanging world. Or maybe I can write about another ism.
The fact of the matter, if you have to whip out google to research certain topics to prove a show is good, then the show is not that good.
Watch any medical drama, they use so many obscure terms, but guess what, they explain each term and confusing term so that the viewer can stay engaged and not get confused.
Trying to find meaning, when the writer herself said, she is not trying to place meaning, is just reaching.
In Episode 6, we see someone painting LG portrait, then in Ep 14, we see the finished product.
It is very obvious to me as a savvy viewer, that Lee RIm's grand evil plan, is to have an amateur doppleganger take over the identity of the man in episode 6, so that he can paint an ugly painting/portrait of LG.
How diabolical! LR, you are a true evil genius!
And using your logic. There should in effect be 3 LG's
The LG from EP 1 (probably 52 years old by this point.
The LG who grows up from the baby LG from EP 1 (the LG we know, 32 years old)
The LG who is saved in ep 14, who we see in end of ep 14 (also 32 years old)
- Yeah painting was bad, lol
- Yeah, I have trouble with them making Luna evil, but not evil enough. It was so anticlimatic
- The mask was most likely given to Eunsup as a gift, along with the maserati, plus PPL you know.
- those images I believe are to represent timelines, because it only appears when the axis to move forward and backward in time appear.
- When the flute is one, the holder can travel back to when they save themselves, in this case he is saving his past self from failing the coup. It's a weak argument, but thats what the writer is saying.
- He never possesses the full flute
- The writer is trying to portray 1994 and 2020 LR as having too much arrogance. Basically, trying to be ironic, killed by his own arrogance. It was symbolic more than anything. Yeah LR is worst villain ever.
- Yes, LR can never go past that point in time in 2020, It's an infinite time loop
- LG flute does not vanish, because if it vanishes, then he's stuck in 1994 Corea and will be 57 years old by the time he is able to see TE.
- LG travels back in time because yoyo boy says that's the rules, when LR and LG are in time space world at same time, they can access the time when they have to save themselves.
- TE is effectively the damsel in distress. Cinderella has come.
- Yeah basically SJ arc is wasted, agreed.
- LG wants to make sure TE will wait for him.
- The friend of TE in the police, just so happens to listen to an old recording, lol. It's coincidence basically
- no clue on preggo lady
- PM will be new villain
- LR can't travel to all timelines, just that one point where LG also travelled to.
- It should be years by now your right. But you know movie magic.
- Time freezes when you travel on the time gate.
2. There are infinite number of timelines and two parallel worlds.
3. He calculated it. 1 day in the special time world is 76 days approximately in the real world.
4. I forget the math, he explains it in 1 episode. But the time stops start at 3 seconds, and ends up being 1 hour. Thats an increase of 1,200%. So assuming that since then it's increased by that much again, since he and LR have been parallel jumping like crazy since then. But the calculation I believe is 30 days, each time freeze. You know, if they bother following the math.
5. No, LG followed the exact same past/future, so it would only make sense LR did as well. It will end up being an infinite time loop.
6. Reasons.
If this show is logical. Once past LR sees his coup has failed, he will believe future LR's predictions. Which means, sometimes between 8 years old and 32 years old, he had many opportunities to kill LG. He even had Shinjae mom in the palace working. But you know, that would not fit their narrative so nope.
It's a bittersweet ending, but I like it.
one of the LG will die also, because TE can't have 2 guys. Or can she?
So there are 2 LG, but only 1 LR now.
BUT, LR will die again, because we will have to fast forward to the current time where LR is dead, otherwise we neglect the other side stories of Shinjae finding himself, PM going crazy and etc... And by that time future LR should be dead, and past LR will be dead, to go to another past LR.
But the way things are setting up, PM will be main bad guy, because PM doesn't just want to ally with LR, she wants the power for herself.
Logically speaking, after past LR saw his coup fail, and that future LR is correct. He already had Shinjae's mom planted in the palace as a spy. At any time between the age of 8 - 32, LR already knew LG would defeat him and save himself in the future, he could have killed LG at any time with this extra information, but the future stays the same, which means LR does EXACTLY the same thing future LR did, which will include him going back in the past, thinking for sure he will be able to convince his past self to kill.
Creating the infinite time loop.
That's what i'm saying, he goes there to supposedly save himself, but ends up dying, it's contradictory to what we've been told by yoyo boy. Plus like I said, technically, a LR from 1 minute from the moment he time travels, would have this information, and he would be able to go back and change it.
Because this is the Time travel story the writer wanted to use, a world with infinite number of LR and LG existing in the same time field is possible.
Hints are dropped that she will try to take the Flute so she can become powerful also. She will probably succeed and will be the main villain.
Yes, that is what yoyo boy meant when save yourself. Save your past life self, which wasn't what happened. If anything, LR should have transported to a time when he was actually going to die from LG or something.
But you know, who needs logic, when you got romance!
Basically to simplify. LG saves himself. LR dies. Since he can't find LR, he can't form the flute. Only if the flute is whole will he be able to travel back to future.
So he can go to Corea and Korea, but can't travel back or forth. So he waits in time space world with balloons until time has caught up to him and he will meet adult TE. He also leaves clues to TE so she knows to wait for him.
There is also two LG, baby LG who grows up and meets TE in the end, and the future LG who is waiting in time space world.
LR arc is over. Evil PM arc is about to begin.