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at the start of Ep 12.

TE says, there are two more bullets left in the gun, LG takes the gun and shoots to the side.

First question

Why?

Second question,

Shouldn't you shoot up, shooting to the side, can kill random innocent people?

Just curious, I think I am missing something.

alright

alright.

I've heard about WWW, looks like I need to put it on my watch list.

I'm still hoping PM has a good ending, she's the one i'm rooting for! lol And Shinjae also of course!

I may be alone in this case, but w/e hahaha

I'm also secretly hoping for the downfall of the Monarchy in Corea

LOL! Iron Man mask, you just made me spit out what I was drinking, hahaha!

Well, she's the best dressed female in the show, gotta make sure she keeps modelling those clothes and shoes, hahaha!

I think this adds to the confusing feeling many viewers feel. I mean, what do you even call these scenes? Flash backs? Flashbacks from a different perspective?

I absolutely hated in EP 12, when they replayed the part where LG charge into with his horse, because the second time it happened, I felt zero emotions lol. They even included the slow motion hug. Like, if your going to replay a supposed emotional scene do it in the first 1 minute, not like 5-7 minutes from the start.

These 5-10 minute recaps irk me, because sometimes I ask myself, is this the right episode, or what's happening now.

One poster mentioned LG is in love with the picture of TE. So the way I see it, my analogy would be like this. It's like LG went on Match.com and saw this super fly, heavily photoshopped profile pic of TE. Then all of a sudden she disappears from Match.com for 25 years. And he's like obsessed with her profile pic, and even made up an image of what this girl is like when he finally finds her, "oh she has a ponytail, must mean she's the girl next door" Oh she's wearing a blue blazer, she must not care about fashion much" Stuff like that. And he's become so obsessed with the profile pic, that even though the real TE is nothing like his imagined TE in his head, he doesn't care, since he finally captured his obsession.

I feel KES could have stopped and treated PM like any other 2nd FL, and show that the king never liked/loved her, and she becomes bitter. But she took it a step further and lambasted, discredited, the PM character, ALL so that she can show watch a great person TE Is.

A writer shouldn't need to assassinate one character to show how great another one is.

yeah, I literally rolled my eyes lol

She was being respectful and giving him a chance to be honest, but typical omnipotent LG.

I wish her role wasn't prime minister, it was an insult to PM the world over. They should have given her some fake role like Country Manager, or something lol.

Yeah, but based on what we know from LG, do you think that if TE was queen, he will allow her to influence him?

In all the scenes i've seen, not once has LG said, you know TE, that's what I like about you, your this and this. Or that and that. Or are we shown that he in even amazed on how good of a fighter she is.

Lee Gon's Thoughts on Women in General

It's all damsel in distress i'm coming in with a tank to save you
Sure TE you can fight, but i'm better
Yes TE, I am that rich.
Yup, I am super smart too
Yes I am a fantastic cook.
Yes, everyone in Corea loves me
You have a father TE? Well I don't need to meet him since i'm bringing you to Corea anyway
Wait, did I ask you if you wanted to leave the other world to be my queen? Nah, I don't need to, cuz i'm the boss
Isn't Corea way better than your world TE?
I could go on, but i'll stop here lol

The way KTEM views the PM

Lol, she's from poor family, how the heck did she become PM
Lol, keep wearing makeup,
lol, strong woman, know your place
Lol, all you do is wear that weird skin helmet thing (shows 3 times now)
Lol, so desperate for king love
lol, do your job and don't mind kings matter, even if those matters affect your job.

So criticizing the plot holes, inconsistensies, writing, acting, chemistry is removing people's enjoyment?

So with that same vein, you should not read film critics articles, or articles about low ratings, since that would have the same effect.

You should not have to read the review section to enjoy a show. Fact of the matter is, if all you want is to say, this show is so great, I am swooning over LG and TE, then there are many places you can do so. This comment section has become a meeting place for people to discuss fan theories, confusing parts, and criticize the show. So that is what you will see mostly.

This is how politics work, there is an obvious hole in how monarchy is being executed here, but that is the writers fault more than anything.

I like the PM, she came from an impoverished background, so I can understand her ambition. She pries into the kings life because eventho she is PM, the highest position in the concept of monarchy we know, she has no power, and the king hides EVERYTHING from her, making her job even harder. Plus the King constantly lies to her also, imagine trying to be the lawyer or doctor of a client/patient, but your client keeps lying to you and your being second guessed by everyone, and people keep bringing up the fact that you came from a poor family. yeah, that's going to be fun.

They just wrote her to the ground, an otherwise interesting character. It sucked she had to pine for the King, because that is where all the power lay. She can seriously do so much better than LG.

Fact of the matter LG doesn't see women as his equal, and you can see this in the way he treats TE.

Similar in what sense?

Time Travel/parallel worlds? Try Steins:gate not a drama, but i can't stop recommending this.

Love Story? Most Kdrama are love stories

By lots of knots you mean lots of plot twist? This drama doesn't have a lot of them, the story is quite simplistic.

GOT has lots of twist, I would watch the 24 series also.

Here's the thing I don't understand. In one episode we are shown that the prime minister is voted in by the people, or at least the corean political party to represent them, like how Hilary was voted to represent democrats.

But then in the other hand, we see that the King is pretty much an omnipotent all powerful King that had one scene which showed he picked the PM, and thus "backed" her up.

In olden times, the concept of a monarch with this kind of power existed. We see this in GOT for example. And that time of olden monarch typically would be in charge of choose the staff. Like in GOT the King, and only him, chooses the Hand, Master of Ships and etc..

So I think there is that contradiction here, where there are two forms of monarchial power, and the writer chooses certain ones at different times to support her plot.

But the encompassing tone we get is that the PM has no power, and is no more than someone to do the things the King finds "boring". But the minute the king takes interest in it, regardless of what the PM and cabinet decides, the King just overrules it.

Also another thing that doesn't make sense to me is why the PM wants to be queen. Does she think she'll have power when she's queen? Heck, even TE won't have power when she's queen. She'll just be LG arm candy, and follow whatever the King says. Unless PM was planning on marrying LG, then killing him? That would be the only thing that makese sense.

I am a big fan of PM, the actress is superb, I want to watch her drama The Guest, but I dont like horror/suspense type.

And I was also not a fan of the 180 of the prime minister, since the whole time, we see her being humanize. She's close to her mom, she cares about the people, she's smart to figure out LG was gone since the beginning, and she holds her ground, eventho she's being disrespected by literally everyone, especially LG, and I love it that she stands up to the king.

I"m half expecting the last 3 episodes to just be flashback after flashback of behind the scenes things we didn't see to make us emphatize/hate certain characters.

A little too late i'm afraid lol.

I'm curious, am I the only one that doesn't like how KTEM after the end of each episode, rather than continue from that point on in the next episode, they spend roughly 10-15 minutes to replay what happened the previous episode end with new scenes.

These recap scenes last so long, that often i forget what happened before. And these scenes i've found serve no purpose but act as filler. This was especially apparent i episode 11-12, so much filler.

When I saw that as the reason she was still alive, I was laughing a lot. She is basically bait.

First off, the mom of LG from 25 years ago, got the LR treatment, she does not look like she aged. She looks the same as she did 25 years ago. Even the main henchman of LR was shown to have aged in 25 years.

Second off, the drama as far as I saw, has never established that LG was close to his mom at all. We had that story of how his parents met, and that was pretty much the only mention of the mom. We've seen more evidence that LG was close to his father. So if LR wanted to use a parent to be the perfect bait, then it would have made more sense to use the father rather than the mother. I mean something simple like showing something that the mom left for LG before she died, or some flashback scenes showing the mom, would at least give us viewers some tools needed to believe that LG will do anything to save parallel world mom, but nope.

And her as bait, doesn't make sense. LR could have just captured anyone, yeong, TE, pretend luna is TE, lady noh, sub guard and etc... and LG would still come to save them, but I guess it being parallel world mom SHOULD have more emotional impact, which I just don't see. I mean, it's already established LG wants the other part of the fllute, so LR doesn't even need a hostage per say. Unless we are going to be treated to a scene where LR is like "Give me that flute or your mom dies" cring, I will laugh out loud if this scene plays out.

Have you heard LG when he says cringe thing? That kind of corny type of dialogue completely validates my point. He feels, ok, this girl has never met me before, but i'm going to see these saccharine sweet lines, and show off how rich and how good I am and SHE IS suppose to love me. I laugh at this assertion from both LG and KES here. His actions, facial expression, way of thinking, his whole persona and etc... all screams god-complex.

Like I said, I don't feel his aversion to touch is a big thing, in other kdramas, everyone has a reason for aversion to touch, but the effects of so called assassination or traumatic experience is written better, with more consequence, then a simple "Don't touch me!".

If you think that not wanting to be touched, being afraid of being poisoned are enough to show LG vulnerability, and show the emotional scarring from the assassination attempt, then good for you. I, on the other hand, will need much much more. It's just poor writing, by a writer who expects viewers to know what she is thinking without providing the necessary steps to get there.

Yeah, chasing an ID picture, just implausible. I know this is supposed to be fantasy genre, but I didn't know the way people fall in love here is suppose to be fantasy also.

Ok, if you think international audience have a higher understanding due to being exposed to other genre's and not being pigeonholed to kdrama formula. Prove it.

A lot of international shows, also have these slow burn romances, in fact international shows with multiple seasons, take years for the characters to fall in love. And compared to other Asian dramas, taiwanese, chinese, japanese, the portrayal is the same, and the formula is similar. So it's not simply a kdrama formula as you say.

Anyway, I don't like LG and LMH. and that's my stance, and I don't find your arguments strong enough to convince me otherwise. But nice talking.

AFAIK, they have not explained it.

But isn't that woman LG mom in Republic of Korea? or am I mistaken.