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Replying to Kimsamsoom Jan 5, 2022
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I give Jisoo slack being an Idol turned first time actress.But if you really wanted me to nitpick her acting,…
I will mention some of it in my Drama end review. But I won't be overly harsh with her, since as i've said, for a first time actress, she's not doing that bad.

But yeah, I'm not going to proclaim her the second coming of a megastar yet. She hasn't shown she deserves that title yet.

Her acting is slightly worse than Suzy if I were to quantify.
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Replying to Drahom Jan 5, 2022
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You should watch it. I decided out of spite...Like is it so bad? Is there actually something problematic? People…
Snowdrop has a lot of reality suspension with nonsensical romanticism. Which is what the OP seem not to enjoy so much.

The presence of distortion or not is debatable, and it is still being debated until today in South Korea, but that should not affect us since we don't really care about all that.

I thought Ep. 5 was a preview of what it could have become. Since then, the show has lost it's way, and is dragging the hostage situation way too long that the tension has all but dissipated. This limits the storytelling of the overarching plot, which means the last few episodes will just be basically plugging plot holes, and rushed conclusions. A norm in SK Kdrama these days.
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Replying to Kimsamsoom Jan 5, 2022
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Number 2Number 1 would actually fix the controversy.
Watching out of spite is also fun too :)
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Replying to Kimsamsoom Jan 5, 2022
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Number 2Number 1 would actually fix the controversy.
You can watch and decide for yourself.

It's meant to be political satire. Something not easy to do in its own. But the writer attempts to anyway.

Best to watch with low expectations and hope to be surprised.
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Replying to Clinically-Insane Jan 5, 2022
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Tell me something, is this an action thriller with a really gruesome take on the issues under discussion or is…
Number 2

Number 1 would actually fix the controversy.
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Replying to GeekyAmma Jan 5, 2022
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Let us see how the writer takes the romance forward. I have high hopes for the rest of the story. I am really…
Gyeok Chan correctly pointed out. If we cannot get out alive, we should blow the dorm and die with honor. Similar to how their previous comrade ate the kill pill to avoid dishonor towards the country. To be indoctrinated to be a spy, you need these type of loyal convictions.

Gyeok Chan even brings up an excellent point. They have betrayed us not just once, but 3 times now, and they've shot at us 3 times as well. At one point does a leader show the enemy that you are serious about your threats? They have made the threat to kill hostages two times now, and both times, nothing happens.

The reasons that Soo Ho gives Gyeok Chan just seem really week. And why Kang Moo is still alive is just plain old plot armor. There are just so much inconsistent writing in the show, that if I were to really spend time of it, spot quite a few in just these first 7 episodes.

I agree, it's a tightrope of being redeemable, and in control. I feel Jung Hae In is trying is damn best here. He's doing the best with what the script is giving him. But the fact of the matter, the writing is just not giving JHI the proper platform to showcase his range here. He is being pigeonholed in situations he need not be in if the writing was better.
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Replying to bibimyeon Jan 5, 2022
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the election in this drama is only 10 days left, nam and eun working together to assure that their party gonna…
So yeah, if the writer wants to make all these changes you mention, then this is the literal definition of history distortion, which JTBC claims its not doing.

It goes back to my argument that it was pointless to make the plot happen during this historical timeline. And now the writer is picking and choosing which is historical, and which ones are invented?

Is she going to reinvent the 1980's korean constitution? She's asking her viewers to make multiple mental gymnastic, stretching of the imagination and just straight up spoon feeding. The fact of the matter is that the political writing in Snowdrop is horribly written, and makes no sense at all.

If Code 1 is indeed the presidential candidate, then they wouldn't have need to use that candidates actual name, which they ended up doing. Code 1 is clearly the guy who is always a blur that we cannot see, and thus the current president.

If they just didn't want to be jailed and punished. Why even have loads and loads of conversation between the men and their wives about them fighting for presidency, What is the point of the 13 virgins plot point which is repeatedly used?
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Replying to 9715509 Jan 4, 2022
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Ms. Pi rules the dorm with an iron fist. But she's also been tortured by the ANSP and they seem to have a hold…
They defanged Ms. Pi. She's just another hostage at this point. The way her character has gone, I can't imagine she still has any importance to the plot.

She fired the old man. And I believe she can expel these college kids if she sees fit. It is not clear that Ms. Pi is reporting to the ANSP, and wouldn't make sense if it was.

At least, Boon Ok, she may end up being a traitor one more time.

If Ms. Pi was really reporting to the ANSP, they would have been suspicious when she didn't report about the events of EP. 1
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Replying to SorcererExtreme Jan 4, 2022
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I don't understand the K-Netzs saying this drama is bad hating on jisoo's acting. I was prepared for the worst…
I give Jisoo slack being an Idol turned first time actress.

But if you really wanted me to nitpick her acting, I am sure I can write paragraphs after paragraphs of why.

But it's her first time and she's doing ok, not great, but not bad either.
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Replying to GeekyAmma Jan 4, 2022
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Let us see how the writer takes the romance forward. I have high hopes for the rest of the story. I am really…
So Hoo shot Gyeok Chan for less reasons.

And yet, Kang Moo, who tried to lead an escape, try to wrest a gun from Gyeok Chan, and was about to kill Gyeok Chan, should be kept alive? Eventhough Kang Moo has proven time and time again to be dangeros to keep alive? Where is the rationale there?

Gyeok Chan is actually doing exactly what someone taking hostages should do. Soo Ho, on the other hand is full of lame excuses, false bravado, and hot air at this point. I think even the hostages are starting to suspect nothing will happen.

The bullet reason is just such poor writing. Like the writer couldn't figure out another reason not to kill Kang Moo.

If they actually killed someone, or even hurt someone, or heck just slap someone, maybe the threat of harm would be an actual threat.
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Replying to GeekyAmma Jan 4, 2022
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Let us see how the writer takes the romance forward. I have high hopes for the rest of the story. I am really…
Old timey hostage situations maybe. But several modern shows have dealt with hostage situations quite differently, sometimes quite a few die, sometimes the "protagonist" dies. But the more well written ones at least show people getting hurt. Snowdrop lacks most of these modern writing techniques. It's basically a Kdrama that just so happens to be involved in a hostage situation. One were there appears to be very little at stake.

It's rare to see a love story develop in a hostage situation, because of the power disparity between the man with the gun, and the woman held against her will. Seen without rose colored glasses, this would actually be the foundation of a toxic and unhealth relationship. Probably why these two tropes are rarely mixed by even the most savvy of wriers.

If Game of Thrones has taught us anything, surprise deaths has a way of pulling people in. And because other shows have started to be as brave as Game of Thrones with how they deal with character deaths. Shows like Snowdrop, feel dull in comparison.

Keep in mind, I am not saying, the show should kill someone, but nary a person has even got hurt. And the hostages themselves have become self-aware about the lack of danger of the whole situation.

I actually disagree with Geok Chan. Rather than being hot headed, he is acting EXACTLY how a hostage taker, who is holding 70 people hostage with just 3 men SHOULD be acting.

In fact Geok Chan's manner is very consistent with a true soldier who is loyal to his country. Which makes me wonder, why he hasn't killed Soo Ho yet, since he has clearly strayed so far from the ideology, I could mistake Soo Ho for being South Korean.

Soo Ho is actually acting way too cool. You've been betrayed 3 times, and shot at two times, when is enough enough? Is Soo Ho waiting for one of his comrade to die before he actually starts getting dangerous?

Bottom line, whatever line the writer is feeding, I am not biting.
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Replying to 9655205 Jan 4, 2022
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This drama never claimed to he historically accurate or even historical. It just takes time around the June protests…
historical fiction done right, can be thought provoking, opens up the room for debate, and can increase curiosity of your average viewer on that particular slice of history.

Key word being "Done Right".

As Winston Churchill once coined "History is written by the victors". A historical event can have many different interpretations.
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Replying to Kimsamsoom Jan 4, 2022
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Careful what you write, these words can be triggering.
"Shooting my brains out" of course I know is not meant literally. But for people already suffering from self harming ideations or depression, seeing such words may end up triggering some thoughts they may have in their minds. Not every one who post on MDL are mentally mature, and it only takes small changes.

I probably think words like:

"Go kill yourself" to express anger
"Retard" to express anger
"Loser" to express anger

and many other possibly hurtful words, shouldn't be used in MDL. The English language has approximately 470,000 words, I find it hard to believe that your average MDL poster can't put a point across without talking about harming one self or another person. As metaphorical the purpose may have been.

I'm glad, you are enjoying our conversations :)
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Replying to bibimyeon Jan 4, 2022
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the election in this drama is only 10 days left, nam and eun working together to assure that their party gonna…
This is factually incorrect.

Code 1 = Chun Do Hwan = the current president of South Korea. Based on the 1980 constitution which was not changed, each president is allowed only one single 7 year term. So Code 1 cannot possibly be the next president.

If their candidate will win, it will no longer be called the Aemin party, but it would rather have an Aemin party favored candidate. Which is actually what happens in the real elections of 1987, the elected official was a crony of Chun Do Hwan.

If you are implying that an Aemin party favored candidate would have bearing on the next next election, then that is wrong.

South Korea in 1987's in under the rule of a false democracy as coined by the victims of the Gwangjju massacre. After the 1987 presidential election in South Korea, they actually started holding fair and democratic elections, so even though Eun Cho and Nam Tae il were to get the favor of the Aemin party, it would be a moot point by the time the next next election would come, which makes everything they are doing now, pretty much useless.

It's basically a pretty lazy lot hole from what I am seeing, or just poor translation as I said.

In fact, to go one step further, it is not uncommon for the current president to pardon the crimes of the previous president regardless of political ideations.
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Replying to evedeea Jan 4, 2022
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Ikr? This is the most confusing part for me. Why they started to work together for another candidate?
That's a huge assumption the writer is asking the viewers to make.

It still doesn't explain why there even needs to be an intermediary candidate in the first place?
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Replying to Kimsamsoom Jan 4, 2022
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Careful what you write, these words can be triggering.
There are ways to express excitement for something without relegating to possibly self harming trigger words.

Specially when mental health of a lot of people is at an all time low during the pandemic.
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Replying to GeekyAmma Jan 4, 2022
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Let us see how the writer takes the romance forward. I have high hopes for the rest of the story. I am really…
Does an action heavy sequence with very little actual ramifications, penalties, and stakes count as intense?

Since the guns have been pointed at the hostages, WAY too many times, and nary a shot is fired. The suspense has lost almost all it's edge.

Due to flashback scenes, and the paper airplanes, we know the ML has feelings for the FL. But in reality, bandaging your hostage, or feeding them is an action that isn't unique. In fact based on the Geneva Convention of 1949, medical personnel will not be harmed so that they may provide first aid. And going back as far back as greek/roman times, allowing the opposing side to bury their dead is sometimes allowed. It's a manner of honor, an ideology that is very rampant in Socialist states.

If I was Gyeok Chan, I would have already done something against Soo Ho. Who accepts the reason, we don't shoot someone is because of budget constraints? And this excuse was used twice already. It almost seems like Soo Ho has a weak excuse everytime something dangerous should be happening. Emphasis on the word WEAK.
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Replying to evedeea Jan 4, 2022
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Ikr? This is the most confusing part for me. Why they started to work together for another candidate?
I am thinking just crappy translation, otherwise this is a lot of plotting, scheming , and otherwise just plain murder for another candidate? And what is the whole point of 13 virgins if another candidate will win? Were they planning on killing their own candidate?

I was surprised that line was even put in.

I am sure someone is just going to say, of this is intended by the writer to show satire. And I'm just going to shake my head when that happens LOL!
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Replying to Kimsamsoom Jan 4, 2022
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Soo Ho is apparently not his real son.It's possible, he wanted to test Ms. Choi to see if she's a traitor to him…
It's possible, he seems to have so much faith in Soo Ho.

It could mean that he is smiling like.

"Kill the three spies?, good luck trying with Soo Ho in the lead" kind of smile.
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On Snowdrop Jan 4, 2022
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One thing, I find extremely confusing.

Nam Tae il and Eun Cho I thought were fighting to be the candidate for presidency of their party.

And yet, we find out there is another candidate for their party for president.

Is this just bad translation or what?
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