This drama never claimed to he historically accurate or even historical. It just takes time around the June protests…
Umm... It is actually historical, otherwise they should stop using actual historical events. It is fiction, but it is being set in an actual historical timeline.
This doesn't take time during the June protest, but rather after it. They clearly said it is 10 days before the December elections on the 16th of December 1987. Which means the situation in the dorm is happening at exactly December 6, 1987.
I want to know something why Lim ju rik (Lim soo hop father) smile when his manager called the ANSEP society to…
Soo Ho is apparently not his real son.
It's possible, he wanted to test Ms. Choi to see if she's a traitor to him or not (Doubtful, as it wouldn't make sense to the angle the show wants)
It's possible he just didn't want to be the one to order the deaths of the spy, as it will make him look bad (Possible, but really doesn't make sense, like how would Soo Ho even know who ordered the hit it since he is not privy to that information)
It's possible Lim Ji Rok has already a backup plan in place to get the three spies out himself in the form of Cheong Ya (I like this theory, it's feasible, and makes sense. I just don't think the writer will go this direction.)
Most probable reason is option #2. As little sense as it makes
Of course there could be other reasons, but this is my thinking of what the reasons could be.
1. Not really a theory, but I have a feeling her brother isn't actually dead, rather he’s is in critical condition…
1. I think so too.
2. It's a power game, one wife only wants 13 to die, the other wants more or less than 13.
3. Walkie talkie won't mean much if we don't know where the other pair is. Could be ANSP could be NK. We don't know where Ms. Pi loyalty lies. I imagine she was trying to contact Cheong Ya, since she hid the walkie talkie (it served its purpose) after Cheong Ya enters the scene. Which further makes me believe Cheong Ya is actually NOT moran hill 1, or is a defected Moran Hill 1.
6. Please no more new people, already too big of a cast as it is.
7. Nam Tae il probably is briefed by his wife on the 13 virgins thing. So he now know's Eun Cho's ulterior motive. Nam Tae il's plan is telegraphed as blowing up the whole dorm. Essentially hitting two birds with one stone.
8. No. They cannot show the other spies feeling bad, because it will defeat the purpose of making Soo Ho look more sympathetic.
Now let's discuss the concept of lesser evil for a second.
You see in most Kdrama where there is a clear antagonist, it's easier to spot who the protagonist is.
Snowdrop has complicated this simplistic Kdrama formula by creating a situation where there is no real protagonist, but several possible antagonist. Just like in Game of Thrones, Snowdrop attempts to paint all the characters grey, by making every single one of them do bad things. Even our titular innocent and naïve Young Ro is guilty of treason by hiding Soo Ho. Then it just becomes a subjective exercise on figuring out which acts in the show resonates with your own moral compass.
Having said that, the show attempts to then enter into the ethical debate on lesser evil. If everyone in the world is deemed evil, or capable of doing evil, or have done some evil things, then who in turn is the good guy? The answer is, the person who has done the least evil deed.
The show has already built the framework for Soo Ho's redemption arc, by actively involving him in many situations that actually save lives, and not take them away.
Snowdrop can get away by making Soo Ho the protagonist, by making all the supposed "Good Guys" do bad things. Thus muddling the ethical pond.
Now all Soo Ho has to do at this point is to continually do good, ethical, and protagonistic things, and then his character will fall into that prototypical protagonist role.
And then the romance will become semi-palatable. I personally feel the writing has missed it's mark, but I want to point out that this is most likely the intended romantic angle of the writer.
Not impossible. If they start showing soo ho being a victim, then everything he has done is easily forgiven.And…
He is a victim because he is a soldier, and he is just following orders. If he chooses to be like Cheong Ya and blindly follows orders, then your right, he cannot be painted a victim.
But if actually, with his own free will chooses to think for himself and fight the puppet masters, then the audience will sympathize with his good heart.
Then the romance becomes believable.
Similar to a bank robbery. 5 robbers go in, 4 of them wants to push through to kill the hostages or blow the bank up or hurt the women. But one bank robber preaches compassion. The audience will gravitate towards that one bank robber, because he is the lesser evil.
I am not saying Soo Ho will get away with no punishment, but he will probably be seen in a sympathetic light and allowed to defect or escape by Kang Moo.
I think that you and a lot of people forgot that they actually met and started to fall in love before. And during…
Sometimes, it's not the guy who wants it, but the guy's parents. Especially if the guy is really a Chaebol, or just a lot richer than the girl.
Usually the girl doesn't get nothing, but it's often very little. I think this is to prevent gold diggers, which is kind of prevalent in Asia.
Sometimes, I look at these relationship and really wonder if this is really borne out of love/romance or what?
In Asia, a lot of the businesses are still run in a very old fashioned way. So typically the Chaebol's parent's no matter their age, will have businesses and assets under the corporation or the parent's name. And the children barely have anything in their name, and the money being split is really negligible.
It's a really sucky part of Asian culture, but it's because so many wealth and power imbalance exist that this is even a thing.
I don't think we will see this much in western culture. You can argue Asians are just more pragmatic?
I think that you and a lot of people forgot that they actually met and started to fall in love before. And during…
In Kdrama, we rarely see the Pre-nup come into play, because it's fantasy romance.
But in real life, a pre-nup between a very rich guy and a regular woman, or even a not as rich girl have pre-nups is more common than you think. It's very common in Asia, I even have friends who signed them, and the are not dumb girls.
In fact, I recently found out it's very common for celebrities as well.
I totally agree, girls who enter these relationships are entering a relationship with a very poor power imbalance. But when the guy is a handsome, super nice guy, sometimes you don't see the red flags.
I think that you and a lot of people forgot that they actually met and started to fall in love before. And during…
Imagine being married to a chaebol who asked for a pre-nup where if you divorce you will get $1. Although you may enjoy 5-10 years of great marriage. He suddenly cheats, and suddenly your left holding the bag, and the man gets away scot free.
I feel these relationships are built on shaky foundations.
Any time a relationship is built on when one of the party, whether the man or woman is in a position of absolute power, it's questionable when they eventually do end of together and the power dynamic hasn't changed.
This doesn't take time during the June protest, but rather after it. They clearly said it is 10 days before the December elections on the 16th of December 1987. Which means the situation in the dorm is happening at exactly December 6, 1987.
It's possible, he wanted to test Ms. Choi to see if she's a traitor to him or not (Doubtful, as it wouldn't make sense to the angle the show wants)
It's possible he just didn't want to be the one to order the deaths of the spy, as it will make him look bad (Possible, but really doesn't make sense, like how would Soo Ho even know who ordered the hit it since he is not privy to that information)
It's possible Lim Ji Rok has already a backup plan in place to get the three spies out himself in the form of Cheong Ya (I like this theory, it's feasible, and makes sense. I just don't think the writer will go this direction.)
Most probable reason is option #2. As little sense as it makes
Of course there could be other reasons, but this is my thinking of what the reasons could be.
2. It's a power game, one wife only wants 13 to die, the other wants more or less than 13.
3. Walkie talkie won't mean much if we don't know where the other pair is. Could be ANSP could be NK. We don't know where Ms. Pi loyalty lies. I imagine she was trying to contact Cheong Ya, since she hid the walkie talkie (it served its purpose) after Cheong Ya enters the scene. Which further makes me believe Cheong Ya is actually NOT moran hill 1, or is a defected Moran Hill 1.
6. Please no more new people, already too big of a cast as it is.
7. Nam Tae il probably is briefed by his wife on the 13 virgins thing. So he now know's Eun Cho's ulterior motive. Nam Tae il's plan is telegraphed as blowing up the whole dorm. Essentially hitting two birds with one stone.
8. No. They cannot show the other spies feeling bad, because it will defeat the purpose of making Soo Ho look more sympathetic.
You see in most Kdrama where there is a clear antagonist, it's easier to spot who the protagonist is.
Snowdrop has complicated this simplistic Kdrama formula by creating a situation where there is no real protagonist, but several possible antagonist. Just like in Game of Thrones, Snowdrop attempts to paint all the characters grey, by making every single one of them do bad things. Even our titular innocent and naïve Young Ro is guilty of treason by hiding Soo Ho. Then it just becomes a subjective exercise on figuring out which acts in the show resonates with your own moral compass.
Having said that, the show attempts to then enter into the ethical debate on lesser evil. If everyone in the world is deemed evil, or capable of doing evil, or have done some evil things, then who in turn is the good guy? The answer is, the person who has done the least evil deed.
The show has already built the framework for Soo Ho's redemption arc, by actively involving him in many situations that actually save lives, and not take them away.
Snowdrop can get away by making Soo Ho the protagonist, by making all the supposed "Good Guys" do bad things. Thus muddling the ethical pond.
Now all Soo Ho has to do at this point is to continually do good, ethical, and protagonistic things, and then his character will fall into that prototypical protagonist role.
And then the romance will become semi-palatable. I personally feel the writing has missed it's mark, but I want to point out that this is most likely the intended romantic angle of the writer.
But if actually, with his own free will chooses to think for himself and fight the puppet masters, then the audience will sympathize with his good heart.
Then the romance becomes believable.
Similar to a bank robbery. 5 robbers go in, 4 of them wants to push through to kill the hostages or blow the bank up or hurt the women. But one bank robber preaches compassion. The audience will gravitate towards that one bank robber, because he is the lesser evil.
I am not saying Soo Ho will get away with no punishment, but he will probably be seen in a sympathetic light and allowed to defect or escape by Kang Moo.
Hanna is not the right girl for Kang Moo, he needs someone like young ro.
So of course I am bias against soo ho 🤣
And maybe 6 episodes of romantic stuff and we are back on track.
I am just finishing so i can write a proper review.
And I don't know if it's jisoos. Acting or just poor direction from the director.
But there is literally zero elements of danger. The way Jisoo acts it's as if soo ho is holding a fake gun.
Just the overall reaction of her and the hostage seem so unreliatic that I feel no danger at all.
Even those c4 bombs could have been made to be more menacing but instead they literally just seem like strings.
Like I've said before. This writer has no idea how to write this genre.
The only ruthless person in the ANSP is nam Tae il, and even then he is more stupid than ruthless.
The shoe is trying to challenge it's viewers into figuring out whose side to root for... Which is great when painting your characters grey.
But the writer seems to not trust the viewers, and now she's inserting inane situations that forces us to ally with the main lead cast.
The way the writing is going, it's basically the main cast vs the extras lol!
Really don't know what the writer is trying to show here, but I do agree she is failing at it.
I don't know much about Kpop except Black Pink. I am slowly learning about BTS.
As much as Snowdrop should have a sad ending. The way the plot is going, I doubt it will.
Even for public broadcasting the ratings are good.
Don't recognize any of the cast. Seems like unknowns.
It's during the December elections of 1987.
Usually the girl doesn't get nothing, but it's often very little. I think this is to prevent gold diggers, which is kind of prevalent in Asia.
Sometimes, I look at these relationship and really wonder if this is really borne out of love/romance or what?
In Asia, a lot of the businesses are still run in a very old fashioned way. So typically the Chaebol's parent's no matter their age, will have businesses and assets under the corporation or the parent's name. And the children barely have anything in their name, and the money being split is really negligible.
It's a really sucky part of Asian culture, but it's because so many wealth and power imbalance exist that this is even a thing.
I don't think we will see this much in western culture. You can argue Asians are just more pragmatic?
But in real life, a pre-nup between a very rich guy and a regular woman, or even a not as rich girl have pre-nups is more common than you think. It's very common in Asia, I even have friends who signed them, and the are not dumb girls.
In fact, I recently found out it's very common for celebrities as well.
I totally agree, girls who enter these relationships are entering a relationship with a very poor power imbalance. But when the guy is a handsome, super nice guy, sometimes you don't see the red flags.
I really like gyeok chan though.
I feel these relationships are built on shaky foundations.
Any time a relationship is built on when one of the party, whether the man or woman is in a position of absolute power, it's questionable when they eventually do end of together and the power dynamic hasn't changed.
And if it's found out Cheong Ya is also NK, then she is KOS as well.