And this actually proves that many of them don't even want to see or hear anything. You can't make someone understand…
Not sure why people are surprised, people have attempted to cancel Disney themselves before due to all their whitewashing, and previous crimes.
Same for Tommy Hilfiger for their discrimination and racism.
The only group of people I know who have successfully cancelled large companies is China. If they boycott a brand, they really go all out and ban that product.
As an international fan of kdrama, I have no real connection to Korean politics and do not want to get involved.…
to be honest, the talk of cancellation and what not doesn't really go anywhere. In the history of Kdramas, how many dramas really has gotten cancelled? Not much. And this one has deeper pockets and no connection or is based on Chinese media.'
Having said that, you can't compare movies/dramas from west and east. The US made a movie about the death of Christ, it was met with way more controversy than Snowdrop, and it went to print anyway.
Korean is a lot more sensitive, and are quick to demand cancellation on what they deem not good morals or image.
I believe international fans and Korean fans deserve their time in the sun to protest the show if they do so choose, after all it would be incredibly ironic if we were to censor them, as we are creating a state of false democracy if we do. The same situation Snowdrop is trying to combat.
Everyone else assumes the ANSP are lying when they say he's a spy because they have a history of doing so. It's…
I think that I'd a jump to assume only bun ok has no experience with them, I am sure that some of the girls in the dorm may also be naive and uninformed.
The reason the girls of 207 know I'd because Jeong min is there and young ros personal experience with her brother.
Also, after the gwangjju massacre in 1980, Chun Do Hwan actually pulled militaristic methods, but the wounds reopened when. A few students died and this eventually reopened the protesting which eventually led to the elections.
Add to the fact, regardless if you trusted the government or not, there will always be people like bun ok who will follow or not.
Like let us talk for example the police situation in America. With the many wrongful deaths and the ride of black lives matter, certain people have become mistrustfull of the police. Yet when a police comes in, most will follow the rules, because we are trained to follow authority.
The headmistress herself chooses not to comply which is because of her own personal experience, which was sensed and parrotted by the handyman. It wasn't because of a pervasive atmosphere that everyone mistrusted the ansp. In fact showing the flashback weakened that notion.
A lot of the bloody cudetas in Asia's history has been led by the young and students, including the hk protestors. Do having the headmistress have her bias without having been tortured herself would have been far far stronger. By showing that she is being bitter, it played her hand as a biased observer and doesn't allow the reader to view the situation properly. Like I said the writing could be better.
The block button is there and ready.To be honest, the drama is too knee deep in history that it becomes difficult…
I've been in many controversial and heated comment sections.
My block button list is literally a mile long . I have already blocked 5 people from this comment section due to their hate speech and personally attacking methods. It's really not that hard to block, and saves you the stress and frustrations.
It's also good for yourental health not to read what frustrates you.
i really can't figure out what side you are on............... lol just pick your struggle. you're watching the…
I am just reviewing the drama, and adding socio political context to my views. Why does there have to be a side?
I have been consistent since day 1. I don't think the historical distortion is a big deal. I am just aiming to understand what the drama is politically and historically trying to say.
Snowdrop should in essence just be a romeo and Juliet romance but the writer unfortunately deemed it important to place political history in the forefront. So it becomes inescapable to discuss snowdrop without context of history and politics.
do you mean ANSP?Then that becomes confusing... by doing that, it would mean the ANSP and the ruling party, actually…
In episode two, he never implicitly says, "Hey I am a protestor". But when jeong min assumes it, he does nothing to correct her. So admission by silence.
Suho is actually hired by his boss, who has a pact with the ANSP, who wants NK spies to be in SK, so they can have proof for their logic to torture the protestors.
I never claimed Suho is leading the movement or is one of the leaders. I merely said, he is pretending to be a protestor. Numerous times he could have admit he is not (which obviously he won't). His silence and lack of admission makes him guilty of pretending.
Let's talk for a second of the opposition. Who is the opposition? A democratically voted nominee? Another person from another military party? This is not possible, because during 1987 there is only one party, and Chun Do Hwan had no opposition within his party.
In fact during the election, he pushed Roh Tae Woo as his choice of candidate. Who guess what, is actually the one ending up winning.
It's a confusing political storyline that interjects too much with actual history to be considered a work of fiction.
do you mean ANSP?Then that becomes confusing... by doing that, it would mean the ANSP and the ruling party, actually…
So your saying there is proof that ANSP actually brought in NK spies to pose as protestors so that they can legitimately capture, torture and kill protestors?
Have there been witnesses account of this? It doesn't show up in Wikepedia, so I am curious on your source.
I understand your POV, you feel since ANSP is actually the ones bringing in the spies, then it becomes very fictional correct? But don't you feel some people may actually think this actually is what happened in the real 1980-1987? it's not a far fetched idea.
If ANSP actually had magical ponies or laser beams instead of guns, then yeah no question it's fiction. But the fact that they introduce an idea, that could very well be the actual truth doesn't' steer them away from controversy, but rather make them vulnerable to more controversy don't you think?
Same for Tommy Hilfiger for their discrimination and racism.
The only group of people I know who have successfully cancelled large companies is China. If they boycott a brand, they really go all out and ban that product.
Lukewarm plot, horrible pacing and tone, complicated and unnecessary political plot line, and inconsistent acting.
Overall a so-so watch. If your a fan of the main leads, you may enjoy it.
No need to read the articles, it may affect your enjoyment of the drama.
Having said that, you can't compare movies/dramas from west and east. The US made a movie about the death of Christ, it was met with way more controversy than Snowdrop, and it went to print anyway.
Korean is a lot more sensitive, and are quick to demand cancellation on what they deem not good morals or image.
I believe international fans and Korean fans deserve their time in the sun to protest the show if they do so choose, after all it would be incredibly ironic if we were to censor them, as we are creating a state of false democracy if we do. The same situation Snowdrop is trying to combat.
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The reason the girls of 207 know I'd because Jeong min is there and young ros personal experience with her brother.
Also, after the gwangjju massacre in 1980, Chun Do Hwan actually pulled militaristic methods, but the wounds reopened when. A few students died and this eventually reopened the protesting which eventually led to the elections.
Add to the fact, regardless if you trusted the government or not, there will always be people like bun ok who will follow or not.
Like let us talk for example the police situation in America. With the many wrongful deaths and the ride of black lives matter, certain people have become mistrustfull of the police. Yet when a police comes in, most will follow the rules, because we are trained to follow authority.
The headmistress herself chooses not to comply which is because of her own personal experience, which was sensed and parrotted by the handyman. It wasn't because of a pervasive atmosphere that everyone mistrusted the ansp. In fact showing the flashback weakened that notion.
A lot of the bloody cudetas in Asia's history has been led by the young and students, including the hk protestors. Do having the headmistress have her bias without having been tortured herself would have been far far stronger. By showing that she is being bitter, it played her hand as a biased observer and doesn't allow the reader to view the situation properly. Like I said the writing could be better.
My block button list is literally a mile long
. I have already blocked 5 people from this comment section due to their hate speech and personally attacking methods. It's really not that hard to block, and saves you the stress and frustrations.
It's also good for yourental health not to read what frustrates you.
It's her first drama, so I cut her some slack
Let's wait next episodes to provide much needed clarity
I have been consistent since day 1. I don't think the historical distortion is a big deal. I am just aiming to understand what the drama is politically and historically trying to say.
Snowdrop should in essence just be a romeo and Juliet romance but the writer unfortunately deemed it important to place political history in the forefront. So it becomes inescapable to discuss snowdrop without context of history and politics.
That is unfortunate, I really liked gang moo Ang Kang Hanna.
But won't making ansp brutal make no spies more sympathetic?
It's not far fetched this was happening in 1987, especially since the ruling parties candidate won.
Suho is actually hired by his boss, who has a pact with the ANSP, who wants NK spies to be in SK, so they can have proof for their logic to torture the protestors.
I never claimed Suho is leading the movement or is one of the leaders. I merely said, he is pretending to be a protestor. Numerous times he could have admit he is not (which obviously he won't). His silence and lack of admission makes him guilty of pretending.
Let's talk for a second of the opposition. Who is the opposition? A democratically voted nominee? Another person from another military party? This is not possible, because during 1987 there is only one party, and Chun Do Hwan had no opposition within his party.
In fact during the election, he pushed Roh Tae Woo as his choice of candidate. Who guess what, is actually the one ending up winning.
It's a confusing political storyline that interjects too much with actual history to be considered a work of fiction.
Have there been witnesses account of this? It doesn't show up in Wikepedia, so I am curious on your source.
I understand your POV, you feel since ANSP is actually the ones bringing in the spies, then it becomes very fictional correct? But don't you feel some people may actually think this actually is what happened in the real 1980-1987? it's not a far fetched idea.
If ANSP actually had magical ponies or laser beams instead of guns, then yeah no question it's fiction. But the fact that they introduce an idea, that could very well be the actual truth doesn't' steer them away from controversy, but rather make them vulnerable to more controversy don't you think?