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On Nevertheless, Jul 25, 2021
Well, glad to know it's not just me who thinks JE is the biggest, non-committal and self-absorbed loser.... he thinks that about himself too! ^^ The way the episode unraveled, you can see him wallow in self-pity, yet he fails to show even an iota of compassion or empathy for Nabi, and how she might have felt bad about the whole situation.
Jae-Won is lucky, he has Song Kang's face.... istg!
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Replying to Jakota Jul 25, 2021
Is it just me or was the song at a higher tempo in the show? I remember the part of "I'm insecure..." having more…
I think what plays in the episodes is the acoustic version of the Sam Kim song! ^^
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Replying to Stephy Cruz Jul 25, 2021
The irony is Song Kang will be with Park Min Young after this same goes with Han So Hee she will be with Park…
Imagine, a bed-scene from Nevertheless overthrows the Secretary Kim clip on YT that has 800million+ views.
Then both of them turn up for the table-read and have to apologize: 'Mian-he, sunbaenim' xD
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Replying to Choi Taek Jul 25, 2021
what's more toxic , a cigarette or who smoke it ?
Exactly. And why is the counter-argument always a 'what-about'?
JE is his own person, and him being toxic has nothing to do with Nabi being a toxic person herself. I don't even get why Nabi's toxicity is brought up in the same breath to excuse the guy and his behavior!
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Replying to Sarah Zimmerli Jul 25, 2021
Title Nevertheless, Spoiler
The toxic thing about him is that he’s very manipulative and every single move he makes is clearly calculated…
Just because she's a willing party in the sex, distraction, and a feigned relationship he won't commit to, doesn't mean she isn't being manipulated. Just because party B knows of the fact that party A manipulates others, doesn't mean party B isn't being manipulated by party A. Just because JE isn't doing it as a fully pre-calculated plan, doesn't make it *not* manipulation.
From a third-party POV, esp that of a therapist, or a psychologist, he is manipulating her, irrespective of the fact whether he is doing it consciously or not, and whether she's a willing party or not.
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Replying to cheshire Jul 23, 2021
I don't think Jae Eon's gonna have a redemption arc. In these 5 episodes, Jae Eon was basically a manipulative…
100/10 <3
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On Nevertheless, Jul 22, 2021
I'm loving how everybody's 18+ on the show, but the only wholesome, non-problematic, non-toxic and (potentially) romantic dynamic we have is from the 'real adults' of the show: the workplace-romance storyline between the cute-glasses alumnus who works in the office with the pretty, but currently-homeless lady! :3 <3 So precious, istg!
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Replying to Clementine Jul 21, 2021
i feel you. it's like the two don't talk and when they do, they don't say everything that they want to. if nabi…
One of the more annoying things about the show. They are very annoying people to be around IRL. We are watching them because they are played by HSH and SK xD
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Replying to digni Jul 21, 2021
Title Nevertheless, Spoiler
I had already seen the scene where YNB tells PJE's ex about the hair, but by that time I hadn't even started to…
Nabi has this character-trait where she needs to one-up the other. No matter what's the circumstance or who the person is. You could see it with alleyway-cigarette scene, where she swooped out the last cig from JW, even though she isn't a smoker. You can see it in the scene outside her house... she wipes off the other girl's lipstick and plants one right on JW's lips. So, ofcourse, if the ex is trying to rub into Nabi's face how she's much better than her because she's the one JW's 'dating'.... she had to think of a come-back. And what a comeback it was!!! Nabi has a slight mean-streak and a penchant for vendetta... so she wouldn't take to being talked down to, much less from JW's 'current/ ex-gf.' Also, what the ex-gf did... was such a snake-like thing to do. Like why do you need to pick out your bf's 'friend' and interrogate her if they are anything more than that? -_- Stay in your lane, woman!
She had it coming.
If you thought this was jarring... then the webtoon would probably have you think this was very OOC of Nabi.. because the ex-gf there was a sweetheart, and oblivious to JW's philandering way. And she didn't mention the fact about 'dating' JW in a condescending way, yet Nabi mentioned the 'hair' thing as a way to sabotage their relationship (which she regretted later... but nevertheless, she did it intentionally!)
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Replying to Lita Jul 19, 2021
Did they make him a little less toxic in the drama or is it just Song Kang's off-putting acting?
Definitely, made BOTH the leads a LOT less toxic compared to their webtoon versions! Also, I wouldn't necessarily say somebody's inability to act super-toxic is off-putting :)
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Replying to OneAjhussi Jul 18, 2021
Title Nevertheless, Spoiler
The guy is a total manipulator. Why he changed his phone number? The only reason I see is that he wanted Na Bi…
She picked 'metal' as her final project material. And that screams desperation to me, at the same time being super prideful and mildly egoistic. Like 'I won't approach you to call it truce, but give you mixed signals nonetheless, keeping my hair up in ponytails and choosing your specialization as mine, to work on my final project.'
It takes two to play the game. While JE might be doing it consciously, Nabi too is playing along, although she's in denial about it.
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Replying to OneAjhussi Jul 18, 2021
If they give him his redemption, the first part of the drama would clearly be leading on the audience. Because…
More like... he's incapable of change T_T
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On Nevertheless, Jul 18, 2021
Okay... anybody felt the sizzle died, and now Nabi and Jae-Won are just sad people moping around? I think they make each other happy, but are too caught up in other stuff (like society's opinion on the two, their own issues around commitment etc.) to actually realize the fact that they were happy together, and give (whatever they have/ had) a fighting chance.
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Replying to Mal Jul 18, 2021
Right? Like everyone else have killer fashion sense also all of them are art majors you'd think she would dress…
It's a part of her 'wallflower' characterization! :)
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Replying to KimAnna Jul 18, 2021
Title Nevertheless, Spoiler
To be honest I hope they won’t turn PJE good if he won’t get the girl at the end. I hate when they make us…
I think his whole 'I wanna change' is a big-ass pretense. He will be pissed at her for sabotaging his 'thing' with the ex. He also took a massive blow to his ego by being dumped by Nabi post the police-station incident. If this is a part of his elaborate scheme for revenge, then it is EXACTY going down the webtoon route :)
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Replying to mar Jul 18, 2021
whenever i defend nabi she goes and embarrasses me the next scene
The ex is a bitch here, but she was a sweetie in the webtoon. so her comment on the 'hair up in a ponytail' seems savage here, but was REALLY embarrassing in the webtoon. Girl, stop being so desperate, attacking other women for a PoS guy.
And HOW embarrassing was it she picked METAL as her material for the final studio-project? Ugh, girl... get yourself a CLEAN BREAK.
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Replying to lololol Jul 18, 2021
Title Nevertheless, Spoiler
nabi: fully knows jaeon is a fuckboy, has open relationships and doesn’t date and just wants casual sex yet…
what nabi should have said instead:
hey, i thought i could do this casual, 'non-exclusive sleeping-arrangement by the night, and friends by the day' thing. but turns out i can't. while there is nothing to end between us, i do hope we can remain friends and you stop making bedroom-eyes at me, invading my personal space, and getting into my head, 24/7. if you think you can stick to your lane, and not tempt me to cross over from mine all the damned time, then gimme a call if you still wanna meet up as friends. BYE! :)
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Replying to browny25 Jul 18, 2021
I think this drama has really opened my eyes about how stigmatized non traditional relationships are. I still…
I definitely missed the indie-vibes in today's episode. If that's anything to go by, they'll for sure go down the cliched 'bad boy changes for sweet girl' route. T_T
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