Well, glad to know it's not just me who thinks JE is the biggest, non-committal and self-absorbed loser.... he thinks that about himself too! ^^ The way the episode unraveled, you can see him wallow in self-pity, yet he fails to show even an iota of compassion or empathy for Nabi, and how she might have felt bad about the whole situation. Jae-Won is lucky, he has Song Kang's face.... istg!
The irony is Song Kang will be with Park Min Young after this same goes with Han So Hee she will be with Park…
Imagine, a bed-scene from Nevertheless overthrows the Secretary Kim clip on YT that has 800million+ views. Then both of them turn up for the table-read and have to apologize: 'Mian-he, sunbaenim' xD
Exactly. And why is the counter-argument always a 'what-about'? JE is his own person, and him being toxic has nothing to do with Nabi being a toxic person herself. I don't even get why Nabi's toxicity is brought up in the same breath to excuse the guy and his behavior!
The toxic thing about him is that he’s very manipulative and every single move he makes is clearly calculated…
Just because she's a willing party in the sex, distraction, and a feigned relationship he won't commit to, doesn't mean she isn't being manipulated. Just because party B knows of the fact that party A manipulates others, doesn't mean party B isn't being manipulated by party A. Just because JE isn't doing it as a fully pre-calculated plan, doesn't make it *not* manipulation. From a third-party POV, esp that of a therapist, or a psychologist, he is manipulating her, irrespective of the fact whether he is doing it consciously or not, and whether she's a willing party or not.
I'm loving how everybody's 18+ on the show, but the only wholesome, non-problematic, non-toxic and (potentially) romantic dynamic we have is from the 'real adults' of the show: the workplace-romance storyline between the cute-glasses alumnus who works in the office with the pretty, but currently-homeless lady! :3 <3 So precious, istg!
i feel you. it's like the two don't talk and when they do, they don't say everything that they want to. if nabi…
One of the more annoying things about the show. They are very annoying people to be around IRL. We are watching them because they are played by HSH and SK xD
I had already seen the scene where YNB tells PJE's ex about the hair, but by that time I hadn't even started to…
Nabi has this character-trait where she needs to one-up the other. No matter what's the circumstance or who the person is. You could see it with alleyway-cigarette scene, where she swooped out the last cig from JW, even though she isn't a smoker. You can see it in the scene outside her house... she wipes off the other girl's lipstick and plants one right on JW's lips. So, ofcourse, if the ex is trying to rub into Nabi's face how she's much better than her because she's the one JW's 'dating'.... she had to think of a come-back. And what a comeback it was!!! Nabi has a slight mean-streak and a penchant for vendetta... so she wouldn't take to being talked down to, much less from JW's 'current/ ex-gf.' Also, what the ex-gf did... was such a snake-like thing to do. Like why do you need to pick out your bf's 'friend' and interrogate her if they are anything more than that? -_- Stay in your lane, woman! She had it coming. If you thought this was jarring... then the webtoon would probably have you think this was very OOC of Nabi.. because the ex-gf there was a sweetheart, and oblivious to JW's philandering way. And she didn't mention the fact about 'dating' JW in a condescending way, yet Nabi mentioned the 'hair' thing as a way to sabotage their relationship (which she regretted later... but nevertheless, she did it intentionally!)
Did they make him a little less toxic in the drama or is it just Song Kang's off-putting acting?
Definitely, made BOTH the leads a LOT less toxic compared to their webtoon versions! Also, I wouldn't necessarily say somebody's inability to act super-toxic is off-putting :)
The guy is a total manipulator. Why he changed his phone number? The only reason I see is that he wanted Na Bi…
She picked 'metal' as her final project material. And that screams desperation to me, at the same time being super prideful and mildly egoistic. Like 'I won't approach you to call it truce, but give you mixed signals nonetheless, keeping my hair up in ponytails and choosing your specialization as mine, to work on my final project.' It takes two to play the game. While JE might be doing it consciously, Nabi too is playing along, although she's in denial about it.
Okay... anybody felt the sizzle died, and now Nabi and Jae-Won are just sad people moping around? I think they make each other happy, but are too caught up in other stuff (like society's opinion on the two, their own issues around commitment etc.) to actually realize the fact that they were happy together, and give (whatever they have/ had) a fighting chance.
To be honest I hope they won’t turn PJE good if he won’t get the girl at the end. I hate when they make us…
I think his whole 'I wanna change' is a big-ass pretense. He will be pissed at her for sabotaging his 'thing' with the ex. He also took a massive blow to his ego by being dumped by Nabi post the police-station incident. If this is a part of his elaborate scheme for revenge, then it is EXACTY going down the webtoon route :)
whenever i defend nabi she goes and embarrasses me the next scene
The ex is a bitch here, but she was a sweetie in the webtoon. so her comment on the 'hair up in a ponytail' seems savage here, but was REALLY embarrassing in the webtoon. Girl, stop being so desperate, attacking other women for a PoS guy. And HOW embarrassing was it she picked METAL as her material for the final studio-project? Ugh, girl... get yourself a CLEAN BREAK.
nabi: fully knows jaeon is a fuckboy, has open relationships and doesn’t date and just wants casual sex yet…
what nabi should have said instead: hey, i thought i could do this casual, 'non-exclusive sleeping-arrangement by the night, and friends by the day' thing. but turns out i can't. while there is nothing to end between us, i do hope we can remain friends and you stop making bedroom-eyes at me, invading my personal space, and getting into my head, 24/7. if you think you can stick to your lane, and not tempt me to cross over from mine all the damned time, then gimme a call if you still wanna meet up as friends. BYE! :)
I think this drama has really opened my eyes about how stigmatized non traditional relationships are. I still…
I definitely missed the indie-vibes in today's episode. If that's anything to go by, they'll for sure go down the cliched 'bad boy changes for sweet girl' route. T_T
Jae-Won is lucky, he has Song Kang's face.... istg!
Then both of them turn up for the table-read and have to apologize: 'Mian-he, sunbaenim' xD
JE is his own person, and him being toxic has nothing to do with Nabi being a toxic person herself. I don't even get why Nabi's toxicity is brought up in the same breath to excuse the guy and his behavior!
From a third-party POV, esp that of a therapist, or a psychologist, he is manipulating her, irrespective of the fact whether he is doing it consciously or not, and whether she's a willing party or not.
Another quirky show not set in Seoul <3
She had it coming.
If you thought this was jarring... then the webtoon would probably have you think this was very OOC of Nabi.. because the ex-gf there was a sweetheart, and oblivious to JW's philandering way. And she didn't mention the fact about 'dating' JW in a condescending way, yet Nabi mentioned the 'hair' thing as a way to sabotage their relationship (which she regretted later... but nevertheless, she did it intentionally!)
It takes two to play the game. While JE might be doing it consciously, Nabi too is playing along, although she's in denial about it.
And HOW embarrassing was it she picked METAL as her material for the final studio-project? Ugh, girl... get yourself a CLEAN BREAK.
hey, i thought i could do this casual, 'non-exclusive sleeping-arrangement by the night, and friends by the day' thing. but turns out i can't. while there is nothing to end between us, i do hope we can remain friends and you stop making bedroom-eyes at me, invading my personal space, and getting into my head, 24/7. if you think you can stick to your lane, and not tempt me to cross over from mine all the damned time, then gimme a call if you still wanna meet up as friends. BYE! :)