I'm not ready to let these two, and their world, go... when this series finishes I hope we'll be gifted with some positive vibes' extra episodes, just like what happened with Litchi Island, because I will definitely have withdrawal symptoms after the last episode!
During the first 45 minutes of this episode I was thinking: "jeez Lil'Jane you're always the same AND P'Jane is always the same too, you're both dragging the same exact issues after all this time!"------ but then when, during the NC scene at the end, P'Jane was saying "you think i'm a psycho?" and the suspance music started and right after the OST started too... "you're a red flag but i'm color-blind"... my heart kinda made a switch and I thought: ok they are both two psychos, just different shades of it, and they are bound to be together and honestly: that's ok!
(PS Tee must be one of the hottest thai actors out there, I just MELT/FREEZE when he's on screen, he's so damn hot!!!)
Ok, so - this was one great series! It could have been a masterpiece, even better than Shine for my taste, BUT…
Awwwww yes, agreed on everything! It kinda felt short on the premises it built up on: I mean, we saw a lot of details in the first part (jungle life, guerrilla life, student massacre, Vin's trauma, Sin's melting to Vin's attachment, the chief and his daughter, the bow-haired guy and all the issues between Sila and Mada...) and then in the second part they just glossed over the IMMENSE trauma that a death of a lover brings to one's soul and also the path that Sin must have took to build his life once again (also an individual, not only as "Vin's lover").
The way in which you depicted the lakeside scene kinda feels like fanfic material, you could write a new ending for the series and I bet we'll all be reading it gladly! XD
As for the other post about "The Edge of Horizon": I understand what you mean, it's VERY lakorn style so you gotta like tragedy XD But history wise is pretty interesting, although it's way less detailed than Shine and WLF (plus the main leads are absolutely great together!)
I really hope we can get more series like WLF, in which history becomes the interesting stage for plots that represent humanity's fights, strenghts, hopes and sorrows in a way that is enriching and empowering!
Just read a bit more about the history of Thailand and got to find out that this show is based upon real events…
If you like modern history, and this part of Thai history in particular, do watch "The Edge of Horizon" (currently airing) and "Shine" (from last year) - they are both set in the same social/political picture (if you haven't watched them already).
Jolin Jin's character is throwing me off. Any scene she's in just makes me cringe. It's like she was a last minute…
Ahahahah loved this comment! I agree she is a bit extra, but somehow I feel like she is kind of a projection of my inner excitement when seeing all these extra good looking boys in wuxia clothes… I mean, who wouldn’t be so excited to see all these good looking guys 😂
I won't watch this (only because I have def too many titles running right now), BUT I just had to stop for a moment in awe of the title. Japanese BLs have such a way with titles, they deserve a prize or a 0.5 bonus rating only for that!
I swear I'm not crying, I just got an unread letter in my eye... T_T
Ok, so - this was one great series! It could have been a masterpiece, even better than Shine for my taste, BUT there were quite a few pacing issues: maybe one ore two episodes more would have been a nice plus, since the ending felt kinda rushed.
The time slots weren't never really clear, I know the order 66/2523 (the amnesty for students/literates who fled into the jungle after the Thammasat Massacre) was published in April 1980 so this means Vin, Sila and Mada spent 4 years in the jungle... but after that, how much time did Mada and Sila stay in prison? When they meet again they say "it's been forever" but tey say their sentence was reduced so I suppose a few months, or a maximum of one/two years... and how long then did Sin spent in prison too? Honestly a better and clearer storytelling would have been nice, especially since it's a plot that unravels in history.
Also, that lakeside talk between Sin/Vin was a bit unnatural: "I will pay for my sins and make your mom accept me" "I'll be waiting" and that's just about it? I mean you thought the love of your life was dead but he's not, he's alive (and as hottest as ever) in front of you... and that's just about it? o.o
And moreover: for as much as I could understand the "worried mother" trope, I COULD KILL someone for reading my private letters! What the hell, I understand you hide them, BUT YOU CAN'T READ THEM!!!! My autistic side was screaming SO MUCH!
ANYWAY that said, I LOVED this story, and all the characters were very well built. I'm happy we got an happy ending and I cried when Sin was hitting Fah to gain his freedom, it was like a metaphorical way of stoning his identity of Comrade Yue to death and leave it behind in the jungle... an identity that was born because of Fah, and was also finally dying because of him, making a full circle.
My personal superstar for this series was Bas - he carried the show with his presence, his acting, his aura and the incredible way in which he managed to transform a character into someone real and tridimensional: all the subtle expressions he made, the small movements... it was a pleasure to watch. The rest of the cast was good but not up to par, and it was easy to see in the overly emotional scenes (I liked Vin/Sin dynamics but Lhongchan was often too stiff in intense scenes).
Sorry for the long post - which btw kinda feels like I didn't like the series while in fact I loved it! XD A missed masterpiece but still a very good surprise, it's a 9 for me (a bit biased but the pros are way more than the cons!)
It connects directly to one of the most significant and tragic turning points in modern Thai history: the October…
Thailand has always been a monarchy, and starting from 1932 they also had a constitution, although the power was never really to the people but to a little majority of nobles and military oligarchs. To make it simple, General Kittikachorn basically used the elections in 1969 and won the people trust, to democratically legitimize his position - but in 1971, due to the continuous opposition of the parliament, he took all the power and dissolved the chambers. this caused unrest and revolts and in 1973 a revolution, lead by the students, overthrew his regime and exiled him. there was a brief democracy, but in 1976 a new military dictatorship takes the power (and that is basically where this drama starts, with the massacre of Thammasat university iof October 1976).
It connects directly to one of the most significant and tragic turning points in modern Thai history: the October…
oh and i forgot - if you're watching THE EDGE OF HORIZON airing now, or if you've watched SHINE last year, this series basically is the historical conclusion in a timeline that starts with TEOH with General Kitti's coup d'etat, than SHINE with the revolution and then WLF with the return to the military regime.
What kind of political situation is portrayed in this show?
It connects directly to one of the most significant and tragic turning points in modern Thai history: the October 6, 1976, Massacre at Thammasat University in Bangkok, and its immediate aftermath.
-- In October 1973, a massive student-led popular uprising successfully overthrew Thailand's military regime, ushering in a brief, vibrant three-year period of democracy. However, tensions soared in September 1976 when the exiled former military dictator, Thanom Kittikachorn, returned to Thailand under the guise of becoming a Buddhist monk. Believing his return signaled an attempt by the military to claw back power, students at Thammasat University organized massive demonstrations.
-- On the morning of October 6, 1976, state security forces (police and border patrol units) alongside right-wing paramilitary groups surrounded Thammasat University. They opened fire on the campus using heavy war-grade weapons. Official numbers recorded dozens of deaths, though unofficial estimates were much higher, and thousands of students were arrested. The event brutally terminated Thailand's experiment with democracy and brought in a hardline, anti-communist government.
-- After this, surviving student leaders, intellectuals, artists, and leftists faced intense political persecution, arbitrary arrests, and imprisonment. To escape capture, thousands of students fled Bangkok. Many of these young idealists sought refuge in remote jungle areas where the Communist Party of Thailand was waging an armed guerrilla insurgency against the Thai government. In the remote jungles, these students formed units, trained alongside seasoned guerrilla fighters, and tried to continue their political struggle from hiding.
THIS DRAMA STARTS with the revolt at Thammasat university and follows the story of three students who join a group of guerrilla fighters in the forest.
As often happens with these kind of dramas, the second central part of the series suffers from lack of fluidity and pacing... I just finished ep29 and I'm developing a subtle disliking for the female lead to be honest. Don't misunderstand: I'm still liking this very much, it's so epic and majestic, but maybe it would have been better with 10 episodes less. o.o
ILOVEP'Off!please don't tell me I'm the only one who always stops and slowdowns the killing moments to see IF…
honestly, i think it would be such a great twist if Kaye's second personality is the actual killer - but obviously it can't be like that, it's just I would love to have a really dark ending for once!
(PS Tee must be one of the hottest thai actors out there, I just MELT/FREEZE when he's on screen, he's so damn hot!!!)
The way in which you depicted the lakeside scene kinda feels like fanfic material, you could write a new ending for the series and I bet we'll all be reading it gladly! XD
As for the other post about "The Edge of Horizon": I understand what you mean, it's VERY lakorn style so you gotta like tragedy XD
But history wise is pretty interesting, although it's way less detailed than Shine and WLF (plus the main leads are absolutely great together!)
I really hope we can get more series like WLF, in which history becomes the interesting stage for plots that represent humanity's fights, strenghts, hopes and sorrows in a way that is enriching and empowering!
The time slots weren't never really clear, I know the order 66/2523 (the amnesty for students/literates who fled into the jungle after the Thammasat Massacre) was published in April 1980 so this means Vin, Sila and Mada spent 4 years in the jungle... but after that, how much time did Mada and Sila stay in prison? When they meet again they say "it's been forever" but tey say their sentence was reduced so I suppose a few months, or a maximum of one/two years... and how long then did Sin spent in prison too?
Honestly a better and clearer storytelling would have been nice, especially since it's a plot that unravels in history.
Also, that lakeside talk between Sin/Vin was a bit unnatural: "I will pay for my sins and make your mom accept me" "I'll be waiting" and that's just about it? I mean you thought the love of your life was dead but he's not, he's alive (and as hottest as ever) in front of you... and that's just about it? o.o
And moreover: for as much as I could understand the "worried mother" trope, I COULD KILL someone for reading my private letters! What the hell, I understand you hide them, BUT YOU CAN'T READ THEM!!!! My autistic side was screaming SO MUCH!
ANYWAY
that said, I LOVED this story, and all the characters were very well built.
I'm happy we got an happy ending and I cried when Sin was hitting Fah to gain his freedom, it was like a metaphorical way of stoning his identity of Comrade Yue to death and leave it behind in the jungle... an identity that was born because of Fah, and was also finally dying because of him, making a full circle.
My personal superstar for this series was Bas - he carried the show with his presence, his acting, his aura and the incredible way in which he managed to transform a character into someone real and tridimensional: all the subtle expressions he made, the small movements... it was a pleasure to watch.
The rest of the cast was good but not up to par, and it was easy to see in the overly emotional scenes (I liked Vin/Sin dynamics but Lhongchan was often too stiff in intense scenes).
Sorry for the long post - which btw kinda feels like I didn't like the series while in fact I loved it! XD
A missed masterpiece but still a very good surprise, it's a 9 for me (a bit biased but the pros are way more than the cons!)
-- In October 1973, a massive student-led popular uprising successfully overthrew Thailand's military regime, ushering in a brief, vibrant three-year period of democracy. However, tensions soared in September 1976 when the exiled former military dictator, Thanom Kittikachorn, returned to Thailand under the guise of becoming a Buddhist monk. Believing his return signaled an attempt by the military to claw back power, students at Thammasat University organized massive demonstrations.
-- On the morning of October 6, 1976, state security forces (police and border patrol units) alongside right-wing paramilitary groups surrounded Thammasat University. They opened fire on the campus using heavy war-grade weapons. Official numbers recorded dozens of deaths, though unofficial estimates were much higher, and thousands of students were arrested. The event brutally terminated Thailand's experiment with democracy and brought in a hardline, anti-communist government.
-- After this, surviving student leaders, intellectuals, artists, and leftists faced intense political persecution, arbitrary arrests, and imprisonment. To escape capture, thousands of students fled Bangkok. Many of these young idealists sought refuge in remote jungle areas where the Communist Party of Thailand was waging an armed guerrilla insurgency against the Thai government. In the remote jungles, these students formed units, trained alongside seasoned guerrilla fighters, and tried to continue their political struggle from hiding.
THIS DRAMA STARTS with the revolt at Thammasat university and follows the story of three students who join a group of guerrilla fighters in the forest.
LOVE
P'Off!
please don't tell me I'm the only one who always stops and slowdowns the killing moments to see IF there is a glimpse of the killer... XD