we are getting bored waiting for the next kp episode so here's a quick question for everyone:what are your favorite…
I have a LOT but a personal favourite that is close to my heart is Word of Honor + Not Me (which recently revived me), I also really like History 3:Trapped, Dangerous Dr*gs of sex, Gameboys, HIS (the movie), and Cupid’s Last Wish (comfort show).
In TV land I let the characters tell me what is going on, so that means the next day in the cold sober light of…
That’s fine too! Esp since you are conscious of that need to differentiate fiction from reality, so I see no issue with that I was more so adding on to the conversation happening here xx
In TV land I let the characters tell me what is going on, so that means the next day in the cold sober light of…
I agree but also disagree with you here. I agree, like I mentioned on my other comment, that characters, just like people, view and asses things in their own way, so in the end, their response is quite important to determining whether a label corresponds or not to a situation shown. HOWEVER, it is just as or even more important to consider what narrative a series is establishing. Is a series making toxic traits or acts seem natural, romantic, desirable? In Cutie Pie for example, they pass off Hia Lian’s possessiveness and manipulativeness as something cute and wonderful (a way to « protect » his love interest), when really it’s unhealthy and unfair to Nukuea. In Kinnporsche, it’s more ambiguous for now (given that we need the next ep to make a solid opinion), but the show does give some indication of questionable morals. For instance, with Porsche saying « Why are you taking my clothes off? », « You just want to see me naked, don’t you? ». Even just with this, the series is opening up the debate about consent and intentions, rather than jumping straight into sex or rape and brushing it all off.
but kp stans have enough all kinds of reasons to believe that it’s not r@pe and in the mafia world these stuff…
That also bothered me in Bad Buddy, the fact that they didn’t address that Wai outed the main leads. For that matter though, the way I also perceive it is that every relationship and friendship is unique, and every person reacts differently even if the same thing happens to them. The main leads weren’t upset at Wai so they handled the situation in their own way. At the very least, the show portrayed Wai as villainous when he did carry out such acts, so it wasn’t shown as something positive or justified, especially when Pat confronts Wai during their match. As for Kinnporsche, both the original commenter’s and your opinion are valid and I back you up on your thoughts. In no way is it alright to romanticise or celebrate SA in fiction. The nuance I would like to add however, comes back to what I mentioned previously, that it also depends on the individuals involved. And I think that a lot of the viewers here acknowledge that the scene enters the territory of non-consent and that that in itself indeed morally wrong or questionable. At the same time, viewers are thinking more so (from what I have seen) about how this scene will impact the relationship in the long run, because it’s more so a revelation of the character’s feelings rather than just an act of lust. In other words, it’s opening the story up to discussion and reflection for the characters themselves, and is what is making people curious and excited for. I think it’ll be very important for us to see how the next episode addresses what happens, that will be very telling. So if Porche for instance, is shown to feel violated and/or that Kinn is shown to regret what he did, and that it is treated with the seriousness that it demands, that’ll show that the series is not glossing over possible SA. If Porsche does not feel violated but that there is still some degree of reflection about it, it’ll equally be important. I think it’s good that we are able to have these conversations, but I feel like both sides of the debate need to also take into account the subtleties that are being shown.
Book Spoiler ahead (if you want to read lol)-------Pete couldn't report to Kinn because he was being held captive…
Oh yeah, that does make sense, thx! But does Kinn (or even Porsche at this point) not realise that Pete is missing for a month? 🤔 Its making me more and more curious now haha
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I was more so adding on to the conversation happening here xx
As for Kinnporsche, both the original commenter’s and your opinion are valid and I back you up on your thoughts. In no way is it alright to romanticise or celebrate SA in fiction. The nuance I would like to add however, comes back to what I mentioned previously, that it also depends on the individuals involved. And I think that a lot of the viewers here acknowledge that the scene enters the territory of non-consent and that that in itself indeed morally wrong or questionable. At the same time, viewers are thinking more so (from what I have seen) about how this scene will impact the relationship in the long run, because it’s more so a revelation of the character’s feelings rather than just an act of lust. In other words, it’s opening the story up to discussion and reflection for the characters themselves, and is what is making people curious and excited for.
I think it’ll be very important for us to see how the next episode addresses what happens, that will be very telling. So if Porche for instance, is shown to feel violated and/or that Kinn is shown to regret what he did, and that it is treated with the seriousness that it demands, that’ll show that the series is not glossing over possible SA. If Porsche does not feel violated but that there is still some degree of reflection about it, it’ll equally be important. I think it’s good that we are able to have these conversations, but I feel like both sides of the debate need to also take into account the subtleties that are being shown.
Similar predicament, just on opposite sides
Thx for replying!
Its making me more and more curious now haha
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