Liltsu

All i remember is that it was some kind of reenactment of the scene where kinn is getting jumped by the lady in the bathroom, but instead of yelling "she's killing me!" when porsche barges in, kinn yells: "im gay” then the lady and porsche start arguing about how kinn looks more like he's bi, not gay
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My dreams are weird

Always, it’s practically inevitable
Prob cause we keep thinking back on the scary ones

Fr, two more days TT

Thx😂 yeah i usually forget tho

That’s what two weeks of waiting does to us

All i remember is that it was some kind of reenactment of the scene where kinn is getting jumped by the lady in the bathroom, but instead of yelling "she's killing me!" when porsche barges in, kinn yells: "im gay” then the lady and porsche start arguing about how kinn looks more like he's bi, not gay
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My dreams are weird

I had a whole ass dream about Kinnporsche yesterday, what is this show doing to me 💀

So sad it's over but it was such a pleasant watch. I was skeptical of the gender-bending at first but they made use of it masterfully. As others have mentioned, it properly delves into gender identity and sexuality as the characters regularly address and question their feelings. Queerness is explored in a unique way, with characters having their own differing perspectives on what makes a person who they are, and how that is affected when the body and soul are separate. All the characters were so likable and fresh too. I am going to miss this.

ps: made an edit on one of the characters (the boy from the flashback) if anyone wants to see: https://twitter.com/liltsulil/status/1514318800199602179

oh i see, thanks! x

yes totally agree and that's exactly right, he's intrigued by Porsche as a whole and not so much for more superficial aspects which is nice to see given the context of the story

same

Whilst, again, I do have some reservations about the decisions in the writing (such as Porsche drinking to a stupor on the job, probably my least favourite scene so far), I am actually really enjoying the slow-burn romance that the show seems to be setting up. From the first trailer, it seemed like Kinnporsche's relationship would be much more toxic, manipulative and predatory, but from the looks of it, it seems to be more subtle, not as aggressively sexual, and more meaningful in a way. Kinn seems drawn to Porsche, and intrigued, but he's not targeting him nor sexualising him as I would have expected from his character. His attraction to Porsche is physical for now, sure, but it's not vulgar, and you can tell he's somewhat growing fond of him and his antics. Kinn's character seems softer. Decisive and authoritarian, but warm. Perhaps a bit similar to Yuan Zong from Advance Bravely. I like that a lot.

I will say that I don't mind some of the comedic elements of the show either, but I wish those scenes didn't drag on so much (I'm specifically thinking of the mermaid costume scene. The length of some of the shots was unnecessary). They could have paced it better to condense the storyline. Another issue I have, which I mentioned in a previous comment, is the wide shots that they keep on using, as in their avoidance of using close-up shots. It distances the audience from what's going on in the story, making the scenes feel slow. I might be repeating myself a bit, but it really bugs me.

As for Porsche's character, I'm starting to like how silly he can be. Seeing as how this is the character trait that this episode focused on, it makes me that much more excited for the weightier scenes of the story. The contrast will be thrilling and wonderfully poignant (I hope). Especially, the small exchange between Kinn and Porsche about "Are you the real Porsche?" made me curious. Maybe it was supposed to be a joke that went over my head. However, in the case that it wasn't, could it possibly have been hinting that Porsche was purposely causing trouble and appearing weaker in skills because he is still intent on leaving? Or perhaps that he does not want to show the others his true potential? Maybe he's testing the waters. Either way, I still liked the exchange, inquiring about each other about their 'true selves'. Showing that they'll eventually open up to each other authentically.

My comment was a bit all over the place but I hope that whoever read this found it interesting :)

may i ask where you found the final episodes? x

what do you mean by BL is not allowed? x
As in the rating of a BL is automatically not able to reach a certain number in the official rules? sounds quite homophobic if that's the case...

Thanks a lot! <3 I will see if I can reference the character you mentioned in my essay, it's really helpful that you included a detailed description of her character development as well! Thanks for taking the time to reply and for wishing me the best with my essay :D

I see where you're coming from! Thanks for your response, it really helps :))

The specific stereotype I was thinking of was of how female characters in c-dramas tend to be infantilized. Some stereotypical aspects are (for example): acting like a child even if they're supposedly adults, not having agency over themselves, being naïve (and lacking in intelligence), being physically weaker than their male counterparts, or at least their love interest, being pure-hearted (so not capable of cruelty), etc. The reason why I was thinking of Ashes of Love for instance, is that the FL can't think for herself at all, and the male love interests make decisions for her even before they even have anything between them (with Gu Xiang for example, one can argue that she is bossed around because she is a maid/disciple to WKX, not because she is a girl).

For Gu Xiang from Word Of Honor, I was thinking that she does derive from the stereotype, but that the show also subverts her character in some ways. For example: making her equal to Cao Wei Ning in martial arts (at least that's what it seemed like), being more intelligent/perceptive than she seems, being capable of ruthlessness (killing without hesitation), she is given independence (the world of WOH is very dangerous but WKX still makes her go on missions by herself), and she can be quite fierce (instead of simply crying when her love interest dies, she actually starts seeking out vengeance right away (really angrily at that). There's also the fact that the other female characters in WOH aren't infantilized at all, which makes it seem like Gu Xiang is child-like because of her individual personality, not because of her gender.

I thought that maybe those traits were unusual and made her more complex as a character as a result, which would then make her a character that subverts the stereotype that she originates from. But what do you think about this? Do you think that my reasoning is convincing enough? <3

I appreciate if you've taken the time to read all of this :D

Thanks for your answer! I'll have to take that into consideration then. Maybe I'll aim to say that she is stereotypical but has some traits that differ from it. And unfortunately I can only use fictional characters from series in particular but I appreciate your suggestion :)
Thanks, I'll try my best <3
ps: it was def useful dw xx

Thanks sm! :) Do you know of any examples where the character is actually very stereotypical?

This is directed toward the WOH fans, I'm just going to copy-paste this on here:

Guys, I need your help. I'm going to write an essay about Word Of Honor for one of my modules at university. The question is about stereotypes, and when stereotypes are actually subverted. I was thinking of using Gu Xiang as an example of a character who first appears to be the stereotypical child-like, "dumb" girl that is often seen in cdramas, but who ultimately subverts it. Though the more I look into it, the more I question whether her characterization is enough to SUBVERT the stereotype.

So I wanted to ask, what do you personally think, do you believe that Gu Xiang is just another stereotype, or does she challenge it enough to overthrow it? Do tell me why you think the way you do as well. It's just so I can widen my perspective and solidify my own opinion since I'm unsure.

Otherwise, could someone please give me a bunch of quotes from Gu Xiang, I am going to find some myself too but I'd love to hear from you as well to make sure I don't miss anything.
Lastly, I need examples of other shows that do reinforce that female stereotype. I already have one in mind, which is Ashes of Love, but if you know of any others, they're happily welcomed!

Thank you to whoever read this until the end ;)

Guys, I need your help. I'm going to write an essay about Word Of Honor for one of my modules at university. The question is about stereotypes, and when stereotypes are actually subverted. I was thinking of using Gu Xiang as an example of a character who first appears to be the stereotypical child-like, "dumb" girl that is often seen in cdramas, but who ultimately subverts it. Though the more I look into it, the more I question whether her characterization is enough to SUBVERT the stereotype.

So I wanted to ask, what do you personally think, do you believe that Gu Xiang is just another stereotype, or does she challenge it enough to overthrow it? Do tell me why you think the way you do as well.

Otherwise, could someone please give me a bunch of quotes from Gu Xiang, I am going to find some myself too but I'd love to hear from you as well to make sure I don't miss anything.
Lastly, I need examples of other shows that do reinforce that female stereotype. I already have one in mind, which is Ashes of Love, but if you know of any others, they're happily welcomed!

Thank you to whoever read this until the end ;)