PhantomzK

Don't get me wrong. I am of the same mindset of individual responsibility. Where we differ a bit is the idea that bullies are necessarily "created" by their environment. You even mentioned the point about good families producing bad kids and vice versa. Kids naturally seek attention. If they aren't given enough of that attention or given too much then they will end up as attention seeking adults. Bullying is technically also a form of attention seeking behavior. Some people are inherently more prone to physical aggression and some are more emotionally manipulative. What we learn from the people around us is to differentiate what is good and bad in accordance to our family, community, and the greater society. Some bullies know what they are doing is bad but because thats their way of seeking attention they continue to behave that way. So in a lot of ways, "bullying behavior" is very much inherent whereas "goodneas" as defined by the society one belongs to is instilled in us. We aren't born with our moral values, we are taught them. Without such rules and restrictions, we might not be a "bad" person as defined by society but we likely wouldn't be a "good" person either. Its the parents job to bring us closer to being said "good" person in society.

To be fair, a lot of stuff is shoved down kids throats at an early age. Specifically about bullying. We are "taught" that bullies must come from a bad background, usually they have issues at home. But as you get older an observe people more you will understand that even the nicest person you know as an adult potentially had a minor "bullying" phase especially as a teen. Not necessarily the more serious kind of bullying seen on tv but things like making fun of others etc. Humans have egos and they are taught self control over time. If they failed to learn proper self control early on, then the harder it becomes later in life. However I will also say that teens who are commit extreme acts of bullying likely do have issues at home in some form. Thus, their parent couldn't properly teach them that self control. Basically Bad Parenting.

I think the excited look and shirtless scene between Da Beom and the bully has ppl misunderstanding the scene. The reason Da Beom appears so excited is mainly due to how much he hated the bully and now that he finally has the chance for revenge he is having a massive adrenaline rush to his brain causing his excitement levels to explode. You can tell just how passionate he is about his revenge by the way the other bully was gutted. I think a lot of people are a bit ignorant of the human psychology.

Yes I am American actually. And I say cop because it takes up less word space. 3 letters is less than 6 and cop has 1 syllable as compared to police having 2.

If he truly was the cop then he rlly fcked up. When ppl started suspecting him he should've just revealed himself to be the cop. He had the most safe hiding place that prevented the Mafia from getting in. Now its in the hands of 2 Mafias.

My opinion is that early on they likely followed and copied everyone else as they fell asleep. When they started out they were a lot more anxious about things and anxious people tend to follow the crowd. Later on everyone hid separately so there was less of a point in Da Beom copying them. As for the 2nd Bell its likely that that is the Kill Bell signifying that they should kill someone now and the timer starts from that Bell. Before the 2nd Bell is the decision making period on who to choose as their victim.

I don't think anyone distinguished which side was evil though? I'm simply stating the fact that the reason why Citizens blame the Mafia is a natural reaction from their circumstances. Its not a matter of evil or good nor is it a moral thing. Its an instinctual thing.
Plus morals are hard to judge because many things affect someones morals. At least for me I don't necessarily believe in the idea of moral correctness. We all have our own sense of morality that we use to judge things but It doesn't necessarily mean that one is more correct over the other.
Thats why I don't like arguing things like morality and such. Instead I prefer to look at things from the lens of instinctual logic and the situational psychology of the people involved.
So while it might not be "correct" to judge the Mafia as "evil", situationally its almost "necessary" to do so to win the game and survive. This is especially the case for the Citizens because as I said, at any time they too can take the fall for the Mafias. Thus, they will try to push that label unto others. Its everyone for themselves amidst the chaos. Its not really about morality as opposed to human psychology.

The bully took his off because he was heating up and sweating due to the stressful situation he was in probably. Idk. As for Da Beom, he wanted to keep his shirt clear of Blood.

When lives are on the line, most people are not going to care about whether the opposition is willingly killing them or not. Its a matter of survival and people need an outlet for their stress. To Citizens, that outlet is going to be the most obvious enemy, the Mafias. To the Mafias, the most obvious outlet is going to be the Citizen(s) that they dislike the most or the one who is impeding their own survival the most. To an outsider there is no black or white in this, but to those involved, it must be black or white. With the division between mafia and citizen, factions have already developed. In fact if you think about it, Citizens area actually disadvantaged because they don't know who among each other are the enemy and who is a friend. Meanwhile, the Mafias start off knowing who is with them and who isn't. This creates even greater confusion among the Citizens because they don't know who to trust. And when the obvious enemy isn't in front of them, they will start pointing fingers for survival because they don't want to take the blame as Mafia and get killed. So the Citizens actually have to worry about being killed by the Mafia as well as being killed by their fellow Citizens by taking the Fall for the Mafia. If you take that into account, the question then would be, "Why wouldn't they blame the Mafia?" Citizens actually have more ways to die than the Mafia do. They either die by the Mafias hands or they take the blame for the Mafia. Think about it.

You noticed a lot more things than I did in episode 1. I think a lot of people have been suspecting Jung Won to be the Host from the beginning but your points are the must convincing so far to me.
Perhaps they really are in some sort of game created by Jung Won and we are simply seeing things from the FL's perspective as she is time looping in the game. But then the question would be, what kind supernatural power does Jung Won have to drag everyone into a game that affects space-time/reality?

Well to be fair, thats more realistic than you'd think. Whether they chose to be in that position or not, they have no choice considering the state of mind and situation they are in. They can try to understand the mafias, but they also know that in the situation they are in the Citizens are the prey while the Mafias are the Predators. People need someone to blame in times of extreme stress. Who is the easiest to blame here? The obvious enemy in the room, the Mafia. No ones going to think about whether the Mafias chose their position or not because they know that they as Citizens can become the next Prey on the Mafia list any day. Most people are simply acting for self-preservation. Mafias "must" kill Citizens and Citizens must find the "Mafia". Either way someone has to die, so why not blame the ones who are going to kill us? Thats the mindset most Citizens will have. On the flip side, Mafias are of the mindset that since they have to kill a Citizen anyway why not kill off those who we don't like first?

Funny you brought Alice in Borderland up because I was also thinking of that as well as I was watching. The hidden bus in episode 1 has always been a mystery to me. It definitely foreshadows something. As for the pausing of space, thats also one the biggest reasons why I was thinking that they were in some sort of separate space, time looping. Kind of like being stuck in a time dome. The mystery then though would be the adults that have disappeared and never reappeared again and the phone connection seemingly only affected after the disappearance of the adults. This seems to suggest that space-time only split off after the adults left.

By loop do you mean the FL being in some sort of time loop? Because one of my previous theories was somewhere along those lines considering her recurrent flashback like nightmare scenes. There are a lot of flaws to this theory though so its still very much incomplete.
At the moment I am still leaning a bit more towards her being a previous contestant of a mafia game though and she just has PTSD and repressed memory or something.

I think he even took a glance at his GF in that flashback after choosing to save himself. He likely just realized what he had done in the heat of the moment and was worried about his GF. From then he kept trying to convince her specifically that he wasn't the doctor.

Idk about the rule about not being able to save yourself and where that came from. I am relying only on what I have seen so far. You can go back and watch the flashback scene. He chooses to use the doctor ability on himself when he saw the guy get executed for crossing the boundary. It was very much a heat of the moment thing but he definitely chose to save himself. Then the next flashback scene is of him cradling his GF trying to use the ability on her but gets a notice that the cooldown is 48 hrs and that he alrdy used the ability and cannot use it yet.

I do think its possible for Jun Hee to be an unwilling mafia. The mafia victims so far are likely a result of majority voting w/ Jun Hee having no choice but to accept the results so far. He is unwilling to be the cause of someones death whether citizen or mafia. But like everyone else he doesn't really have a choice here.

He was their main victim and was likely bullied the harshest. So he's the biggest suspect either way.

No I looked at some reviews recaps to make sure I wasn't wrong. He saved himself first. He didn't use it on someone else, it was on himself because in the heat of the moment he clearly got shitscared so he chose to save himself first without thinking of consequences. Thus why he regretted it later on after his GFs death.

Thats why I think they're in a separate space now. They're isolated from reality.

Where'd you watch the preview?