I didn't see anything remotely hinting towards Shu Lang feeling any "love" for Fan Xiao after the fact!…
Hate and love are united by a thin thread. That’s basically the whole point of the story. At the moment Shulang is mad and he deeply resent Fan Xiao. But he also loves him and that love will be the anchor for their future relationship 🥹
This episode was peak tragedy. We’re grazing Shakespeare level of pain and suffering. Fan Xiao is sinking, trying EVERYTHING he has in him to keep the only person who matters something to him. (Sure, He could’ve been romantic, but that’s not his style and so here we are 🥹) But he doesn’t know how. He knows that he has done unforgivable things. He’s not stupid. But he can’t stop now. Because if he stop, if he let Shulang go he won’t be able to breathe anymore. And he’s sinking deeper and deeper in the sense of fear that’s eating him alive. On the other hand, Shulang is dying. He’s mad, broken and yet he can’t let Fan Xiao go. Not entirely. He wants to leave and yet he still loves Fan Xiao, with a force that’s breaking him from the inside. They are torturing each other, and yet they aren’t able to let go.
This is the perfect example of the famous Chinese tragedy. The one that breaks you in tiny pieces, before putting them all together. (If you’re lucky, otherwise therapy will await for you 😶🌫️)
I’m in pain, I want to hug them both and I want to cry I little. But I’m sooo seated for the next episodes 😌
Dark romance doesn’t follow the moral rules of traditional romance. A redemption arc here doesn’t mean becoming…
yeah and I totally agree with you. I was being vague in my comment because I didn’t want to spoil anything for anyone. But I believe that Fan Xiao will do the best he can to better himself. I have read the novel and I think he will do a good job to atone his mistakes. But I agree with you, dark romance shouldn’t always have an happy ending. In this case I believe that he kinda redeemed himself and that his happy ending was earned ☺️
I don’t want to sound like someone who tells others what they should or shouldn’t watch. Everyone is free to engage with a story in their own way. However, when it comes to dark romance, it’s important to understand the genre’s dynamics, otherwise it’s very easy to end up frustrated rather than actually engaging with the narrative.
This is one of the darkest BLs that has ever been produced, and it’s completely understandable that viewers who haven’t read the novel didn’t know what to expect. Dark romance, as a genre, intentionally portrays manipulation, obsession, moral corruption, and relationships that are not meant to be healthy or aspirational.
Because of that, applying the moral framework of traditional romance will always lead to disappointment. Dark romance operates under a different logic. Redemption doesn’t mean becoming a good person, and love doesn’t “fix” deeply flawed characters. Redemption here is about awareness, responsibility, and a limited shift in direction, not about erasing who a character is.
This genre also doesn’t ask the audience to “approve” of the characters. Discomfort is part of the experience. Moral tension is intentional. The story is not failing because the characters are disturbing. It is doing exactly what dark romance is meant to do.
This is also why, in dark romance, the couple often ends up together. The question isn’t “is this healthy?” but “is this bond inevitable?”
If these dynamics feel uncomfortable or upsetting, that doesn’t mean anyone is wrong, it simply means this genre might not be the right fit. Dark romance isn’t meant to be consumed lightly, and it’s okay to step away from it rather than expect it to conform to different moral standards.
I want to make it clear that this is not about justifying morally questionable behavior. These actions are still wrong, and the story doesn’t suggest otherwise. Justifying behaviors is not the point of Dark Romances. What it does, is show that dark romance operates under a different framework, and the genre isn’t going to bend itself to make us comfortable. We get to decide if we like it or not, but the genre itself remains true to its principles.
Personally, I think the experience is worth it, but it requires viewing it through a different lens. I hope that the ones who are less familiar with the genre and who feel like giving up might give it a chance until the end.
That said, if it feels too much for you, it’s completely valid to step away, there’s nothing wrong with that.
I haven't read the novel, so I don’t know how it ends, but the only ending I'd consider "good" is if…
Dark romance doesn’t follow the moral rules of traditional romance. A redemption arc here doesn’t mean becoming a good person or suddenly losing toxic traits. A character can still be manipulative and have a redemption arc. Those things are not mutually exclusive. Redemption in dark romance is about direction, not moral cleanliness.
I understand why it might seem that he cannot change, but a redemption arc, especially in dark romance, doesn’t require a character to stop being a manipulator. The redemption lies in self-awareness and conscious effort, not in a change of personality. Dark romances are not meant to portray healthy or aspirational relationships; they explore obsession, moral ambiguity, and uncomfortable bonds.
As someone who has read the novel, I can just say that you have to brace yourself for the next episodes 😶🌫️…
ps: it will be a happy ending because Fan Xiao will understand (after being scared to death at the thought that Shulang might kill himself) that he has to let Shulang go. And after he understands that it will be the beginning of his redemption arc. And he will do A LOT to gain Shulang’s trust back
As someone who has read the novel, I can just say that you have to brace yourself for the next episodes 😶🌫️ it will be a wild ride. But don’t let them scare you off 😌
This feud between fans of the two couples is honestly stupid. You can absolutely coexist, appreciating one couple more than the other, while still being polite and respectful toward both. Saying that the main couple must have all the screen time is pointless, because no one ever said otherwise. But fans of the secondary couple have every right to express their disappointment.
As someone who loves both couples equally, I’m honestly disappointed by the LangTu ending. The problem isn’t about screen time, they actually got a fair amount compared to many other secondary couples. The real issue is that this is not an ending. It’s something left open, cut off abruptly… and viewers shouldn’t be forced to read the novel to understand the plot, the characters, or their closure.
It’s a shame, because it would’ve taken so little to turn this into a real ending, just an apology from Wenlang and a soft “let’s start over” with a smile from Gao Tu. That’s it. Five more minutes of screen time, and it would’ve felt complete.
People are absolutely entitled to be upset and disappointed, because this wasn’t an ending at all.
The screen writers were in a real sadistic state when they write this episode. The flashback during the funeral, when Joe was telling to Wut and Sol that he wished for his body to be somewhere out there so that he could get back to it? PURE PAIN.
They literally change every damn book out there, but not this one. OF COURSE NOT THIS ONE.
One part of me wants that to happen on the other side it's so nice to see old Joe enjoying his time having a mom.
yeah, that’s true, but he will always be a stand-in in some ways and I really want him to feel like he’s the main character in his own life and not always a stand-in for someone else 😭
We’re grazing Shakespeare level of pain and suffering.
Fan Xiao is sinking, trying EVERYTHING he has in him to keep the only person who matters something to him. (Sure, He could’ve been romantic, but that’s not his style and so here we are 🥹)
But he doesn’t know how. He knows that he has done unforgivable things. He’s not stupid. But he can’t stop now. Because if he stop, if he let Shulang go he won’t be able to breathe anymore. And he’s sinking deeper and deeper in the sense of fear that’s eating him alive.
On the other hand, Shulang is dying.
He’s mad, broken and yet he can’t let Fan Xiao go. Not entirely.
He wants to leave and yet he still loves Fan Xiao, with a force that’s breaking him from the inside.
They are torturing each other, and yet they aren’t able to let go.
This is the perfect example of the famous Chinese tragedy. The one that breaks you in tiny pieces, before putting them all together.
(If you’re lucky, otherwise therapy will await for you 😶🌫️)
I’m in pain, I want to hug them both and I want to cry I little.
But I’m sooo seated for the next episodes 😌
However, when it comes to dark romance, it’s important to understand the genre’s dynamics, otherwise it’s very easy to end up frustrated rather than actually engaging with the narrative.
This is one of the darkest BLs that has ever been produced, and it’s completely understandable that viewers who haven’t read the novel didn’t know what to expect.
Dark romance, as a genre, intentionally portrays manipulation, obsession, moral corruption, and relationships that are not meant to be healthy or aspirational.
Because of that, applying the moral framework of traditional romance will always lead to disappointment. Dark romance operates under a different logic. Redemption doesn’t mean becoming a good person, and love doesn’t “fix” deeply flawed characters. Redemption here is about awareness, responsibility, and a limited shift in direction, not about erasing who a character is.
This genre also doesn’t ask the audience to “approve” of the characters. Discomfort is part of the experience. Moral tension is intentional. The story is not failing because the characters are disturbing. It is doing exactly what dark romance is meant to do.
This is also why, in dark romance, the couple often ends up together. The question isn’t “is this healthy?” but “is this bond inevitable?”
If these dynamics feel uncomfortable or upsetting, that doesn’t mean anyone is wrong, it simply means this genre might not be the right fit. Dark romance isn’t meant to be consumed lightly, and it’s okay to step away from it rather than expect it to conform to different moral standards.
I want to make it clear that this is not about justifying morally questionable behavior. These actions are still wrong, and the story doesn’t suggest otherwise. Justifying behaviors is not the point of Dark Romances.
What it does, is show that dark romance operates under a different framework, and the genre isn’t going to bend itself to make us comfortable. We get to decide if we like it or not, but the genre itself remains true to its principles.
Personally, I think the experience is worth it, but it requires viewing it through a different lens. I hope that the ones who are less familiar with the genre and who feel like giving up might give it a chance until the end.
That said, if it feels too much for you, it’s completely valid to step away, there’s nothing wrong with that.
A character can still be manipulative and have a redemption arc. Those things are not mutually exclusive. Redemption in dark romance is about direction, not moral cleanliness.
I understand why it might seem that he cannot change, but a redemption arc, especially in dark romance, doesn’t require a character to stop being a manipulator.
The redemption lies in self-awareness and conscious effort, not in a change of personality.
Dark romances are not meant to portray healthy or aspirational relationships; they explore obsession, moral ambiguity, and uncomfortable bonds.
Saying that the main couple must have all the screen time is pointless, because no one ever said otherwise. But fans of the secondary couple have every right to express their disappointment.
As someone who loves both couples equally, I’m honestly disappointed by the LangTu ending. The problem isn’t about screen time, they actually got a fair amount compared to many other secondary couples.
The real issue is that this is not an ending. It’s something left open, cut off abruptly… and viewers shouldn’t be forced to read the novel to understand the plot, the characters, or their closure.
It’s a shame, because it would’ve taken so little to turn this into a real ending, just an apology from Wenlang and a soft “let’s start over” with a smile from Gao Tu. That’s it. Five more minutes of screen time, and it would’ve felt complete.
People are absolutely entitled to be upset and disappointed, because this wasn’t an ending at all.
What if Great is in a limbo between life and death and he has to change the past to prevent Tyme’s and his own death?
Hence why we see two timelines, the past one that lead to Great and tyme’s death and the one that Great is changing.
PURE PAIN.
They literally change every damn book out there, but not this one. OF COURSE NOT THIS ONE.
the bones were in an hospital?