Wan Peng gives really insightful analysis of her character, and some interesting (though discrete) social commentary. I had put this drama on hold, because I find the representations of classism, frankly, boring. But this article makes me want to pick it up again. ***An article actually worth reading! 👏 👏 👏
Ending seems inevitable now. Bait is thrown for viewers but I don't know how else can they end this. Irrespective…
I don't find him comic either. But I do find him realistic - the comedy can also be viewed as weaponised incompetence. Selfish and covertly manipulative adult, who willingly parented children without thought. And considers those children to be someone else's responsibility, whilst their own entilted position in the world remains unaltered. And they are always first to put up their hand to take credit, when their child achieves anything. Yep. I know far too many characters like this IRL
Chan and Pil Do are really interesting characters to me because they are so...... grey? Like they aren't portrayed…
I'm a fan of this particular portrayal. Agree, kdrama-land forgives all parents. But this show has been pretty straightforward in showing that the parenting is terrible, and that the bio-parents are not up to the job; without'explaining' away all of their crappy behaviour to manipulate us into forgiving them. It’s leaving it up to our own judgement, which is a refreshing change.
No wonder their fighting scenes are satisfying to watch since they are being taught by an expert (stunt coordinator…
Thanks for sharing the link.I'm pretty sure he's from the US, but honestly Hong Kong stunt directors are the GOAT 's Hollywood productions would brag about using Hong Kong approaches and stunt directors. The influence of Hong Kong cinema on his work, along with the skills of the actors he is working with, IMO is why it's so good.
Love reading the variety of comments, especially if it is about the plot and not bringing in conspiracy theories…
I agree, the comments are fascinating. And I'm not on-side with any conspiracy theories BUT I disagree with your suggestion that dramas have no influence. TV and movies make a significant contribution to SOFT POWER. And more specifically relating to South Korea, K-entertainment makes up a significant portion of SKs GDP, so it's openly acknowledged, by SK governments, to be part of SK's Soft Power.
If TV weren't influential why would comedy shows in The USA be taken off air (for example) Don't underate its influence just because its not direct.
Just a request as this show continues to air... PLEASE use the SPOILER toggle 🙏 PLEASE keep your comments respectful. You can disagree with someone without embarrassing yourself by name-calling.
I keep finding myself thinking of Graham Greene whilst watching this... Catholics. Spies. Revolutionaries. Statehood. Lost souls All the elements of his novels
because at the time in history this is set in korea aboltion of slavery didn’t have much support? idk what you’re…
My point is more about the fact that commenters will decry age-gap, cheating, hairstyles, all manner of stuff; but no-one seems to ever have anything to say about slavery in Korea, Including even any implicit statements about it, within the drama itself. It's just treated as insignificant. Which, even then, around the world, it was not.
Yes. Exactly. Your thinking/your logic is that she takes her 2025 SK morality with her to 1575, so therefore she SHOULD be living by that morality. Therefore her having a [not yet established]romantic relationship with a married man, is a moral problem. I disagree with your opinion. We can agree that we disagree.
I think you are inserting your own morality to this story and it doesn't fit. Obvs., that's my opinion and you have yours, but stating 'she's from 2025', doesn't change the fact that it's set in 1525. And even applying your logic, so what if she falls in love with a married man. The morality only applies, if you damage someone else's life. Meanwhile, she's his SLAVE now.
What’s with the trying to appeal to western audiences recently in Kdramas? It seems desperate.
Out of curiosity, what parts of this do you think are trying to appeal to specifically western audiences? I personally don't have any issue at all with Kdrama producers, trying to attract a global audience, but I struggle to identify what is specific to a 'western audience' here. 🤷♀️
I'm enjoying this but as per all Joseon era Kdramas, I really can't fathom how little anyone cares about SLAVERY. It's never addressed as a problematic social factor in SK culture. Case in point: Ep. 2, 73.5mins; FL in an utterly wry tone "...now I'm someone’s posession. I'm lost for words". That's it.
Contrary to dramaland tropes NOT ALL prople want to be in relationships!I hope the FL and 2nd ML end up together.…
Btw I've only learned those terms in recent years too! Kudos to you for researching before commenting. It's horrifying to me how often people comment without making use of that smart device in their hand, first.
I had put this drama on hold, because I find the representations of classism, frankly, boring. But this article makes me want to pick it up again.
***An article actually worth reading! 👏 👏 👏
Yep. I know far too many characters like this IRL
Sorry I went off on a rant 😅
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The best description I can come up with is "Insane"!
Hollywood productions would brag about using Hong Kong approaches and stunt directors. The influence of Hong Kong cinema on his work, along with the skills of the actors he is working with, IMO is why it's so good.
TV and movies make a significant contribution to SOFT POWER. And more specifically relating to South Korea, K-entertainment makes up a significant portion of SKs GDP, so it's openly acknowledged, by SK governments, to be part of SK's Soft Power.
If TV weren't influential why would comedy shows in The USA be taken off air (for example)
Don't underate its influence just because its not direct.
PLEASE use the SPOILER toggle 🙏
PLEASE keep your comments respectful. You can disagree with someone without embarrassing yourself by name-calling.
Catholics. Spies. Revolutionaries. Statehood. Lost souls All the elements of his novels
I personally don't have any issue at all with Kdrama producers, trying to attract a global audience, but I struggle to identify what is specific to a 'western audience' here. 🤷♀️
Sigh.
Case in point: Ep. 2, 73.5mins; FL in an utterly wry tone "...now I'm someone’s posession. I'm lost for words".
That's it.