Showing a king having a harem of women licking his legs, sensual touching him or have sex ✅️ Showing a king…
This idea was suggested by Eul Pa So. From the king's perspective, he took the necessary steps to keep his distance from her. Her steadfast loyalty, despite witnessing his sexual involvement with other women, underscores her commitment and strengthens her character. Thus, that scene was essential for illustrating her loyalty and deepening her character.
Showing a king having a harem of women licking his legs, sensual touching him or have sex ✅️ Showing a king…
Do you even watched carefully?? It wasnt meant for his enjoyment. He was simply trying to provoke the queen so she would become angry or displeased and distance herself from him. Pay attention to the scene that follows, where the king speaks with Eul pa so.
I only saw episode 1 (waiting for it to finish before I decide if it's worth 8 hours of watching lol), but I rather…
Im not sure if you watched the scene carefully but it wasnt meant for his enjoyment. He was simply trying to provoke the queen so she would become angry or displeased and distance herself from him. Pay attention to the scene that follows, where the king speaks with Eul pa so.
Additionally, whats wrong with that scene?? I have seen many similar scenes in korean historical smut manhwas. They often portray how kings and royals enjoyed their sex lives with numerous servant ladies, engaging in their activities and sometimes even taking pleasure in watching others. Orgies are a more modern concept seen in netflix western shows whereas these types of scenes fits very well with historical settings.
The sex scenes in this drama arent unnecessary at all, they are carefully placed and offer deeper insights into the characters. In ancient times, the sexual lives of royals were often intense and varied, involving everything from heterosexual encounters with concubines and maids to sodomy with eunuchs. Most korean sageuks being tv dramas, shy away from explicit scenes because tv is generally viewed by families. However OTT platforms allow for more creative freedom, enabling makers to depict historical realities more authentically, including the often wild sexual lives of royals.
Most of the sex scenes add depth to the characters and give them the weight they need. Unlike most sageuks, where the king’s romantic interest is usually limited to the main FL, this drama shows a more realistic portrayal. JCW’s sex scenes with different servant ladies are well explained. While he loves Queen Woo, it doesnt stop him from engaging with multiple sexual partners. The third prince’s sex scene with his wife starkly portrays his cruelty, while the shaman lady’s scene with the FL’s sister subtly suggests the presence of homosexuality in those times. These scenes are integral to the story, not unnecessary.
I would have accepted that they were trying to westernize this drama if it was set in modern times, like in hierarchy, fabulous or somebody. However korean historical movies have often presented such explicit scenes to depict the wild sex lives of ancient korean royals. Moreover, the drama is set during the Goguryeo dynasty, which was known for being more rugged and untamed compared to the joseon dynasty. These explicit scenes help convey that particular atmosphere.
Nud**y always there from long time in korean cinema watch korean movies , and even kdrama who are on OTT not on…
First, go and educate yourself. This show is a TVING original, created primarily with the Korean audience in mind. While its sold to Viu for international streaming, Viu isnt involved in the production at all. Here, the international audience is a secondary priority, while Koreans are the main target audience. This differs from Netflix, where both Korean and international audiences are prioritized. Thats why you often see more westernization in Netflix original dramas, whereas local Korean OTT originals, like those from TVING or Coupang, are largely targeted towards local Koreans, with the international audience as a secondary priority.
Take any example of TVING or Coupang originals versus Netflix originals, and you will notice a vast difference between them.
So, educate yourself before you start spewing nonsense.
I wonder if Sun Hui might have split personality disorder, with her alternate personality being a psychopathic killer. If so, she could be responsible for all the murders, with her parents covering up her crimes.
In one scene, Sun Hui tells her father, "Im scared of both of you," to which he replies, "Im the one who is scared of you," before her mother intervenes just in time.
Even in the 1st episode, when Sun Hui returns home and says, "I killed Gyeong Ho," her mother's reaction was like Sun Hui is indeed capable of murder and has possibly done so before.
Sun Hui's parents are the prime suspects in everyone's eyes, likely because they might be covering up her crimes, though everyone believes they are the actual criminals.
Im absolutely in love with this show. This is how romcoms should be done. While romcoms often rely on cliches and silly scenes, incorporating a meaningful and heartwarming story can truly make a difference. Many romcoms last year failed due to overusing cliches and weak storylines. However, this one has a clear purpose. It offers a compelling story, well developed characters with strong backstories and noticeable growth in every episode.
Im particularly pleased that Seok Ryu's decision to quit and return to her home country isnt just about her cheating boyfriend but also addresses workplace harassment (i hope this the right term to call what Seok Ryu faced at Greip's office). This is a profound topic. Being mistreated in a foreign land, far from family and friends must be incredibly painful. Seok Ryu must have questioned whether it was worth leaving her home country and loved ones behind for such treatment. I hope there is more to her story that unfolds in the States.
Additionally im enjoying the second couple. Mo Eum’s relationship with that child is adorable and im sure that Mo Eum will develop a sweet connection with the little girl.
I really love how the story is unfolding here. Beyond building relationships like friendship and love, the show also focuses on each lead character’s individual professional journey. It explores the conflicts they face, how they progress and how they deal with these challenges, making the drama a wholesome watch. While its not strictly an office drama, it doesnt ignore the fact that these characters have their own careers and personal issues.
Seok Ryu’s struggle is portrayed realistically. With everyone around her working, its understandable that she feels frustrated about being jobless. She has her own inner conflict to manage and i like how Seung Hyo isnt overly involved in her professional or personal life. Despite being best friends since childhood, he gives her plenty of space.
The pacing is excellent and the storyline develops naturally without feeling forced. The chemistry between Seok Ryu and Seung Hyo is natural and the director handles it subtly without overdoing it. He is using their dynamic very cleverly.
I also like that Seung Hyo isnt portrayed as a complete simp.
Overall EP 3 was excellent watch & it was better tgan previous 2 EPs.
This show was a wild ride, divided across two timelines and two storylines. The first timeline is set in 2001 and spans 23 years. In this storyline, a whole family is destroyed by a serial killer and it ends in ep 6 with SML's son taking revenge by killing the serial killer. The second timeline is set in the present and its even crazier but somehow, ML manages to save his family and friends.
The last 3 episodes were absolutely intense. At times, things didnt make sense, but by ep 6, everything comes together. In ep 6, the first storyline set in 2001 concludes, while episodes 7 and 8 focus on wrapping up the main story set in the present. Episodes 6, 7 & 8 were my absolute favorites.
The execution was superb and the acting was marvelous. Go Minsi nailed her role as a psychopath, she was an absolute menace. I really hated her character and when Roh Yoonseo beat her that scene was so satisfying. There were plenty of scenes where Go Minsi's character was beaten by various characters and i loved those moments. Aside from Go Minsi, SML’s acting was also spot on but he barely gets any screen time in the second half. His son takes over and leads the first storyline.
Overall, it was a really well done art thriller. It reminded me a lot of Mask Girl and i think this one also falls under the art thriller category.
Kim Kang Heon's aura is 100000000+!! When he was slapping his elder son in EP3, it genuinely scared me. Meanwhile Kim Sang Hyuk is getting hotter with every passing episode 🔥🔥. These two characters are definitely hard carrying the whole show.
On the other hand, Song Pang Ho is getting badly trapped in his own plans and im really scared for him. I cant even imagine what woo one family has in store for him.
People seem to have issues with almost everything in this show. Some criticize the FL's behavior, others take issue with how her mother treats her and some have problems with the cultural aspects. FL's behavior towards ML is perfectly normal. If you cant understand it, you might not have experienced certain types of friendships in real life. Perhaps you are used to friendships where there is no teasing or playful hitting and thats fine. But there are also friendships where both friends tease, hit and even playfully bully each other and thats just another way of expressing affection. ML is fine with it so its clearly not abusive or annoying (and dont even start the "what if the genders were reversed" argument).
As for how the mother treats FL, its a realistic portrayal of many asian parents. While she may have gone a bit overboard in some ways, this reaction is understandable given the lack of communication from FL. She simply stated, "I quit my job, i canceled the marriage," without offering any explanation. Naturally, any typical asian parent would be upset. This is a reflection of asian culture, if you cant handle these cultural differences, then maybe these dramas arent for you.
Im from an asian country myself. Before discovering kdramas, i watched a lot of western shows but found them largely unrelatable. After getting into kdramas, i realized that western shows just werent for me. Remember, these shows are made for korean audiences, so everything is tailored to suit their tastes and cultural context.
Im not saying you cant criticize the show, but at least try to understand the culture first. The world doesnt operate solely by western norms.
This KDRAMA is KDRAMAing the way KDRAMAs used to KDRAMAing in 2016-18, It feels as if the crew traveled back in time, filmed the show and released it in 2024. The relationships, even the sibling dynamic between Seok Ryo and Dong Jin are just like those in classic dramas. The execution, direction, cinematography and minimal background music all add to the nostalgic feel. It reminds me of shows like She Was Pretty, Thirty But Seventeen, Fight for My Way and others. This is exactly what i have been missing in current dramas and its fullfilling every missing trope of original kdramas. Im absolutely enjoying it.
Suyeon's character is truly fascinating and exceptionally well written. Unlike many negative characters who plot against the protagonist out of shallow jealousy, suyeon’s motivations are deeply rooted and relatable. Her backstory, her re entry into sun hui's life and the gradual growth of her jealousy and insecurity make her actions more understandable compared to typical antagonists.
When suyeon first reconnected with sun hui, her intentions were purely to reunite with an old friend. She had no ill will. However, upon seeing how happy and fulfilled sun hui's life had become, suyeon couldnt help but feel a jealousy. She realized that she, too, could have had a similar life if not for a past incident for which sun hui is indirectly responsible. This realization sparked the beginning of her resentment, as she felt she deserved to reclaim what she had lost.
Despite these feelings, suyeon wasnt entirely antagonistic toward sun hui at first. For example, when those bully girls asked suyeon to join them to bully sun hui, suyeon rejected them by beating the bullies.
However suyeon’s jealousy and hatred eventually overpowered her initial intentions when Gyeong ho entered the picture. He helped and protected her from bullies and in her vulnerable state, suyeon misinterpreted his kindness. She began to desire him but when he indirectly rejected her, she lost control leading to the tragic events that followed.
When comparing Choi Yebin’s current role suyeon to her previous role as Eun byeol (Penthouse), the difference in character depth is striking. Eun byeol’s jealousy towards Bae rona, though supported by a backstory, lacked the depth necessary to fully justify her actions. In contrast, suyeon’s character evokes sympathy and understanding because her grievances, while indirectly do stem from sun hui's past actions. When you put yourself in suyeon's shoes, you can understand her better.
This backstory is pretty much similar to backstory of pyramid game, where a villain girl bullied one of the female lead for childish reason. That villain girl's character backstory was poorly written but here, suyeon's story has more depth and solid reasoning for everything.
E2 of perfect family was a real banger, fast paced and intense. I didnt expect them to reveal the mother and father’s grey shades so early. They are genuinely terrifying characters.
Also this episode quickly jumped to the opening scene from the first episode & then started the main plot.
I have a feeling the parents initially planned to adopt Suyeon but ended up adopting Sun Hui instead. I think they are fully aware of the entire backstory of both Sun Hui and Suyeon.
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It wasnt meant for his enjoyment. He was simply trying to provoke the queen so she would become angry or displeased and distance herself from him. Pay attention to the scene that follows, where the king speaks with Eul pa so.
Additionally, whats wrong with that scene?? I have seen many similar scenes in korean historical smut manhwas. They often portray how kings and royals enjoyed their sex lives with numerous servant ladies, engaging in their activities and sometimes even taking pleasure in watching others. Orgies are a more modern concept seen in netflix western shows whereas these types of scenes fits very well with historical settings.
Most of the sex scenes add depth to the characters and give them the weight they need. Unlike most sageuks, where the king’s romantic interest is usually limited to the main FL, this drama shows a more realistic portrayal. JCW’s sex scenes with different servant ladies are well explained. While he loves Queen Woo, it doesnt stop him from engaging with multiple sexual partners. The third prince’s sex scene with his wife starkly portrays his cruelty, while the shaman lady’s scene with the FL’s sister subtly suggests the presence of homosexuality in those times. These scenes are integral to the story, not unnecessary.
I would have accepted that they were trying to westernize this drama if it was set in modern times, like in hierarchy, fabulous or somebody. However korean historical movies have often presented such explicit scenes to depict the wild sex lives of ancient korean royals.
Moreover, the drama is set during the Goguryeo dynasty, which was known for being more rugged and untamed compared to the joseon dynasty. These explicit scenes help convey that particular atmosphere.
Take any example of TVING or Coupang originals versus Netflix originals, and you will notice a vast difference between them.
So, educate yourself before you start spewing nonsense.
In one scene, Sun Hui tells her father, "Im scared of both of you," to which he replies, "Im the one who is scared of you," before her mother intervenes just in time.
Even in the 1st episode, when Sun Hui returns home and says, "I killed Gyeong Ho," her mother's reaction was like Sun Hui is indeed capable of murder and has possibly done so before.
Sun Hui's parents are the prime suspects in everyone's eyes, likely because they might be covering up her crimes, though everyone believes they are the actual criminals.
Im particularly pleased that Seok Ryu's decision to quit and return to her home country isnt just about her cheating boyfriend but also addresses workplace harassment (i hope this the right term to call what Seok Ryu faced at Greip's office). This is a profound topic. Being mistreated in a foreign land, far from family and friends must be incredibly painful. Seok Ryu must have questioned whether it was worth leaving her home country and loved ones behind for such treatment. I hope there is more to her story that unfolds in the States.
Additionally im enjoying the second couple. Mo Eum’s relationship with that child is adorable and im sure that Mo Eum will develop a sweet connection with the little girl.
Seok Ryu’s struggle is portrayed realistically. With everyone around her working, its understandable that she feels frustrated about being jobless. She has her own inner conflict to manage and i like how Seung Hyo isnt overly involved in her professional or personal life. Despite being best friends since childhood, he gives her plenty of space.
The pacing is excellent and the storyline develops naturally without feeling forced. The chemistry between Seok Ryu and Seung Hyo is natural and the director handles it subtly without overdoing it. He is using their dynamic very cleverly.
I also like that Seung Hyo isnt portrayed as a complete simp.
Overall EP 3 was excellent watch & it was better tgan previous 2 EPs.
The last 3 episodes were absolutely intense. At times, things didnt make sense, but by ep 6, everything comes together. In ep 6, the first storyline set in 2001 concludes, while episodes 7 and 8 focus on wrapping up the main story set in the present. Episodes 6, 7 & 8 were my absolute favorites.
The execution was superb and the acting was marvelous. Go Minsi nailed her role as a psychopath, she was an absolute menace. I really hated her character and when Roh Yoonseo beat her that scene was so satisfying. There were plenty of scenes where Go Minsi's character was beaten by various characters and i loved those moments. Aside from Go Minsi, SML’s acting was also spot on but he barely gets any screen time in the second half. His son takes over and leads the first storyline.
Overall, it was a really well done art thriller. It reminded me a lot of Mask Girl and i think this one also falls under the art thriller category.
It really shows how far people will go to protect their loved ones and Song Pan Ho has definitely crossed the line.
But Ho Yeong is seriously getting on my nerves. Because of him, someone died and now he has the nerve to befriend that guy’s sister. Its infuriating.
On the other hand, Song Pang Ho is getting badly trapped in his own plans and im really scared for him. I cant even imagine what woo one family has in store for him.
Nationwide Ratings: 6.0%
Metropolitan Ratings : 6.7%
As for how the mother treats FL, its a realistic portrayal of many asian parents. While she may have gone a bit overboard in some ways, this reaction is understandable given the lack of communication from FL. She simply stated, "I quit my job, i canceled the marriage," without offering any explanation. Naturally, any typical asian parent would be upset. This is a reflection of asian culture, if you cant handle these cultural differences, then maybe these dramas arent for you.
Im from an asian country myself. Before discovering kdramas, i watched a lot of western shows but found them largely unrelatable. After getting into kdramas, i realized that western shows just werent for me. Remember, these shows are made for korean audiences, so everything is tailored to suit their tastes and cultural context.
Im not saying you cant criticize the show, but at least try to understand the culture first. The world doesnt operate solely by western norms.
When suyeon first reconnected with sun hui, her intentions were purely to reunite with an old friend. She had no ill will. However, upon seeing how happy and fulfilled sun hui's life had become, suyeon couldnt help but feel a jealousy. She realized that she, too, could have had a similar life if not for a past incident for which sun hui is indirectly responsible. This realization sparked the beginning of her resentment, as she felt she deserved to reclaim what she had lost.
Despite these feelings, suyeon wasnt entirely antagonistic toward sun hui at first. For example, when those bully girls asked suyeon to join them to bully sun hui, suyeon rejected them by beating the bullies.
However suyeon’s jealousy and hatred eventually overpowered her initial intentions when Gyeong ho entered the picture. He helped and protected her from bullies and in her vulnerable state, suyeon misinterpreted his kindness. She began to desire him but when he indirectly rejected her, she lost control leading to the tragic events that followed.
When comparing Choi Yebin’s current role suyeon to her previous role as Eun byeol (Penthouse), the difference in character depth is striking. Eun byeol’s jealousy towards Bae rona, though supported by a backstory, lacked the depth necessary to fully justify her actions. In contrast, suyeon’s character evokes sympathy and understanding because her grievances, while indirectly do stem from sun hui's past actions. When you put yourself in suyeon's shoes, you can understand her better.
This backstory is pretty much similar to backstory of pyramid game, where a villain girl bullied one of the female lead for childish reason. That villain girl's character backstory was poorly written but here, suyeon's story has more depth and solid reasoning for everything.
Also this episode quickly jumped to the opening scene from the first episode & then started the main plot.
I have a feeling the parents initially planned to adopt Suyeon but ended up adopting Sun Hui instead. I think they are fully aware of the entire backstory of both Sun Hui and Suyeon.