I feel like this is something I need to grow to like. I loved hospital playlist and the reply series because the…
๐๐๐๐ my god. I know right?
I was watching and I swear it was because it was set in Yulje hospital that I am continuing.
The attitude. That attitude will make me bring that 4th year demoted to 1st year to my office for a sit down. Can people EVEN become a 1st year? I mean your training can be discounted but you cannot demote someone who practised for 3 years to a 1st year. You just don't get into a training programme.
Which planet was the writer living on?
The male resident is literally the only one who is actually believable. We have all had that over- enthusiastic puppy at work.
No one gets to top medical school and have zero insight of what or how to take consent. Medical school is not all disease processes.
God. I must be more cheesed off than I thought. I was looking forward to this drama for so long.
Er I am 45 minutes in and I've had to stop a few times and wondering what was wrong. I went back to check on the director and writer.
The writer was one of the Hospital Playlist writers. I've watched both seasons several times. I've watched all the Reply series and the Prison Playbook.
There is nothing wrong with the drama itself. The directing is fine. As characters the characters are ok? Generic.
The issue is that the old PD and writers did it differently. The vibe is totally different. The characters are richer with the old team.
Now after this... this feels like any 'ol medical drama. You know.... jaded main lead, cocky smart doctor, bitching from her old schoolmate, the pretentious resident. The jaded cynical seniors. The overbearing senior doctors.
These are stock standard medical drama tropes. I am a medical drama expert. I don't watch half of them because of it.
I will watch Resident or intended to watch Resident Playbook based on the old director and writers.
EVEN if I know that the female lead will reform and all medical dramas MAKE everyone seem compassionate or competent in the end; that is not the point.
The point is the reason why I love the Hospital Playlist or Reply series were that the characters were fleshed out. The actors were those characters.
Currently the characters currently on now feels like caricatures of yet another medical drama in S Korea or China. I can take enthusiasm in a new doctor. Arrogance is sort of a given. But I am currently so repulsed that the 3 1st year resident got to the point that they are so imcompetent. How did their professors pass them as internsses in a prestigious hospital? I am going to finish ep 1. Then maybe episode 2.
Then think whether I am interested in continuing. Good god. How did they ruin it? We all know the standard medical dramas. The reason why I could rewatch it was because the HP and Reply series all had heart. This currently is full of cliches. Can ANY resident be that dense in theatre? Only medical students on their first day in theatre can be that dumb. Who the hell takes consent like that?
What was the writer thinking?
Way to ruin my memories. I have even rewatched 3 meals a day: doctor several times because of the Hospital Playlist cast. And even watch the YT series from the doctors and listened in Korean discussing the episodes.
I am quite upset actually. Yes I know its a spin- off. I don't have to like it just because it is based at the same hospital.
Still psychotic and heโs really starting to get on my nerves because of that. Is his character supposed to get…
I am watching Demon Hunter's romance. That doesn't have any " strange " and wrong vibes even though it has death and demons
It is scary true that humans are scarier than having a story about demons.
Any male or anyone who goes around semi- strangling someone they like is wrong. Caging someone and physical threats are wrong and illegal back then and now.
Its a drama. Disguising it with attractive actors doesn't make it less right. I know viewers give a lot of artistic license excuses for dramas. Its up to the individual viewers if they will accept something wrong. There are people who will.
I am saying this in a psychological sense. There are tests out there about this sort of behaviour or mindset from people. Its used for testing honesty, ethics etc for certain positions. I had to answer about freaking 1600 questions. I forgot the name of the 3 tests I did.
This drama is all sorts of wrong. I have seen cheaper productions on Youtube about this sort of drama. This drama has a bigger budget. The premise is still the same thought. A sadistic male. Some narcissistic behaviour. Psychopathic leanings. I'd give murders a pass for this since this is set in ancient times and authoritarian figures do dole out deaths. However the writing showing the lack of ethics are exactly what kilers say. In modern society. Given the manipulative female here who thinks lying and violence is also ok is all sorts of weird.
At the end of the day this is what this drama boils down to for me.
For others it may be a good looking main couple and kissing. If they are ok with it their choice.
I am dropping it because I don't want to become immune to this behaviour and think its normal. Then I won't recognise it then in real life and call people out for it. Part of my job requires me to know what is normal behaviour and report these sort of violent behaviour or move people away from situations like these. Yes. It happens in modern times.
Yes you can call me dramatic. Different people have different reasons for watching dramas. I am aware of my moral compass even when I am watching stories. I depend on my internal moral compass when I am listening to people. And if I keep watching such idiotic crap disguised as web dramas I am wasting my time. That's how people develop apathy towards violence, toxic behaviours in real life. I sometimes do and end up not making enough effort to help then in my job. Or underestimate the PTSD that people get from repeated abuse. This is this type of drama by the way. So I think this is a very valid reason for dropping it. I really must not watch web dramas. I think I am going to avoid it for several months. Or forever.
I really like it that the props and set us is pretty well done. Then you add in some unconventional ghost and demon stories. I have gotten bored with the standard demons.
So good acting plus a fresh story is nice. I don't actually know what is happening. I mean its boring right when you can predict storylines.
Here because of the various little plots I don't know if there is a bigger picture.
The actor that plays the brother. Didn't he play a young brother character recently in another drama? Something brocade or another. He keeps getting cast in those fairly big dramas. Anyway I can't work out if he has a major role here. Initially I thought his story was just the dead wife but he keeps popping up. The creepy inn story? The whole location just shrieks of murder and mystery. So now I have to wait to see where its going. I really thought his role has ended in the earlier episodes.
Even the random Wen Jian story made me laugh. I thought he was just a side character. He gets a story too.
The one thing that surprises me is why Banxia is ok walking all those dark alleys and even volunteering for the Mirror Demon.
I literally don't know what this drama is doing and I love it. Once in a while you actually want to watch an entertaining drama and go along for the ride.
Still psychotic and heโs really starting to get on my nerves because of that. Is his character supposed to get…
There is NOTHING currently airing to watch. I just picked up The Demon Hunter's Romance but its entertaining. Nothing to write home about. The rest.... zilch.
There are no dramas to recommend. I can only recommend Kdramas. Study Group and that's literally it. I am rewatching You are my lover friend. Fast forwarding skipping.
seriously we are going judge people based on looks? it's 2025 get that mindset out of here
You are wrong. My favourite actors are actually Korean.
Wu Lei looks good even without surgery. However he and Bai Jing Ting are distintive.
There will always be naturally good looking men in any country. However there is a common look them with the main leads and main supporting cast looks. Then you hit the extras. Who does look like an ordinary citizen.
I don't recognise half the actors you mentioned but 1/3 of the actors have very distinctive features. Enough for me to recognise them vs the XYZ plastic surgery fixed faces. I just spent 10 minutes googling who they are. Some have had nasal surgery and some with the lateral cantus lift.
What most- not all- have in common are acting skills. Half have charisma. I actually like Bai Jing Ting best amongst the lot. Then its actually Xiao Zhan next I choose a drama primarily based on plot.
I actually like Korean dramas more than Chinese dramas so actually recognise more Korean actors than Chinese actors. I don't actually have anyone that I will watch. I need them to be in a good drama with a good role. Plus the actors have to be able to act.
I am not bashing whoever you mentioned specifically. There are thousands of actors. They are like 1% or less in the industry. Fans have to live under a rock if they don't acknowledge that plastic surgery is rampant. You surely don't think those big doll- like eyes on those actresses are natural right?
I was replying to the post about Allen Ren being ugly. The original reply.
Allen Ren is actually not my favourite actor. I just said he is not ugly.
seriously we are going judge people based on looks? it's 2025 get that mindset out of here
Lol. Different taste. I like his features. If you look at his side view especially. If you see someone without surgery- check their side profile. His is great.
I don't need to lie. Thee are a lot of good looking Chinese actors around more than 75% of them with surgery done.
Allen Ren is good looking and better still his good looks are distinctive. Not the factory churned out look like the rest. A lot of the actors especially those in support roles have the generic plastic surgery corrected features.
seriously we are going judge people based on looks? it's 2025 get that mindset out of here
Sorry. I thought you knew. To get the high bridge nose- it is an implant. Shaving? Er why? I mean you have to choose the height. Nasal implants is actually one of the more minor procedure. There are usually not as many complications.
Now shaping the jaw line for comestic reason is a massive undertaking. For those who have a severe underbite and requires surgery beyond braces- they break the jaw. Long story short- that surgery freaks me out.
Chin implants and dimple creations are relatively simple.
I forgot to mention the lateral cantus surgery. Did you notice the unnaturally big eyes? Its not almond shaped. Asian eyes are usually called that shape.
seriously we are going judge people based on looks? it's 2025 get that mindset out of here
He is very attractive. The others look full of plastic surgery.
Upper eyelids. The shaved jawlines and chin implants drives me bonkers.
Some have dental veneers some need dental veneers.
Don't even talk to me about the nasal implants or botox.
Or the actual physique with narrow shoulders. No muscle tones so the side profile sucks. No pecs. No gluteals.
There are so few naturally good looking Chinese actors. My family is East Asian so I said even with the different ethnicities finding a natural good looking Chinese actor without enhancement is rare.
Allen Ren looks good, can act and has great diction and a good voice.
Don't watch it then. If you're the CEO of one of the big casting agencies in China, Taiwan and S Korea- then you can talk.
I am in the midst of The Demon Hunter's Romance and I saw that ep 3 and 4 is out.
So how is it? Not the plot. I mean is the male lead really psychotic or is he better? He was a psychopath in episode 1. Then he was definitely one in episode 2. We jail murderers these days. However even judges back in the olden days don't kill like he did. With such relish.
So how is he in ep 3 and 4? I am not even asking about any romance. I am watching to see how wild the writer would go.
I find it extremely funny and ironic. So Song Zu Er was 24 when this was filmed? The male lead is older.
So that's fairly common. She looks young, fresh but most of all she looks YOUNG. Skin can't lie.
So why do I have to keep watching people in their mid-30s play under 18 years old. Or even 14 years old? With definitely older and in their 30s male actors?
I am not even against their ages. Are fans going to tell me that talent trumps age? It actually doesn't. I had to suspend disbelief and it was jarring.
For this drama its the opposite. The female lead looks so young that the fine looking 34 year old at that time of filming looks so old next to her.
My rant today; not really a rant its more a vent is that why can't they cast age appropriate actresses?
I notice one of the supporting cast in this is the FL for Spring Burning. That will make her 29 in 2023. She was playing a college student in the just finished drama.
Man. I just want to enjoy and immersh myself in the plot. The casting should be acting and age appropriate casting.
I am now heading to ep 6. And when I am done since nothing else is on go back and rewatch Allen Ren's drama with Bai Lu. I am in love with his voice. Strong enough to not have the whispery no depth tone. Perfect diction. Expressive, extremely expressive voice acting
I was watching and I swear it was because it was set in Yulje hospital that I am continuing.
The attitude. That attitude will make me bring that 4th year demoted to 1st year to my office for a sit down. Can people EVEN become a 1st year? I mean your training can be discounted but you cannot demote someone who practised for 3 years to a 1st year. You just don't get into a training programme.
Which planet was the writer living on?
The male resident is literally the only one who is actually believable. We have all had that over- enthusiastic puppy at work.
No one gets to top medical school and have zero insight of what or how to take consent. Medical school is not all disease processes.
God. I must be more cheesed off than I thought. I was looking forward to this drama for so long.
The writer was one of the Hospital Playlist writers. I've watched both seasons several times. I've watched all the Reply series and the Prison Playbook.
There is nothing wrong with the drama itself. The directing is fine. As characters the characters are ok? Generic.
The issue is that the old PD and writers did it differently. The vibe is totally different. The characters are richer with the old team.
Now after this... this feels like any 'ol medical drama. You know.... jaded main lead, cocky smart doctor, bitching from her old schoolmate, the pretentious resident. The jaded cynical seniors. The overbearing senior doctors.
These are stock standard medical drama tropes. I am a medical drama expert. I don't watch half of them because of it.
I will watch Resident or intended to watch Resident Playbook based on the old director and writers.
EVEN if I know that the female lead will reform and all medical dramas MAKE everyone seem compassionate or competent in the end; that is not the point.
The point is the reason why I love the Hospital Playlist or Reply series were that the characters were fleshed out. The actors were those characters.
Currently the characters currently on now feels like caricatures of yet another medical drama in S Korea or China. I can take enthusiasm in a new doctor. Arrogance is sort of a given. But I am currently so repulsed that the 3 1st year resident got to the point that they are so imcompetent. How did their professors pass them as internsses in a prestigious hospital? I am going to finish ep 1. Then maybe episode 2.
Then think whether I am interested in continuing. Good god. How did they ruin it? We all know the standard medical dramas. The reason why I could rewatch it was because the HP and Reply series all had heart. This currently is full of cliches. Can ANY resident be that dense in theatre? Only medical students on their first day in theatre can be that dumb. Who the hell takes consent like that?
What was the writer thinking?
Way to ruin my memories. I have even rewatched 3 meals a day: doctor several times because of the Hospital Playlist cast. And even watch the YT series from the doctors and listened in Korean discussing the episodes.
I am quite upset actually. Yes I know its a spin- off. I don't have to like it just because it is based at the same hospital.
I am off to watch Doctor playlist or whatever that new drama is called.
It is scary true that humans are scarier than having a story about demons.
Any male or anyone who goes around semi- strangling someone they like is wrong. Caging someone and physical threats are wrong and illegal back then and now.
Its a drama. Disguising it with attractive actors doesn't make it less right. I know viewers give a lot of artistic license excuses for dramas. Its up to the individual viewers if they will accept something wrong. There are people who will.
I am saying this in a psychological sense. There are tests out there about this sort of behaviour or mindset from people. Its used for testing honesty, ethics etc for certain positions. I had to answer about freaking 1600 questions. I forgot the name of the 3 tests I did.
This drama is all sorts of wrong. I have seen cheaper productions on Youtube about this sort of drama. This drama has a bigger budget. The premise is still the same thought. A sadistic male. Some narcissistic behaviour. Psychopathic leanings. I'd give murders a pass for this since this is set in ancient times and authoritarian figures do dole out deaths. However the writing showing the lack of ethics are exactly what kilers say. In modern society. Given the manipulative female here who thinks lying and violence is also ok is all sorts of weird.
At the end of the day this is what this drama boils down to for me.
For others it may be a good looking main couple and kissing. If they are ok with it their choice.
I am dropping it because I don't want to become immune to this behaviour and think its normal. Then I won't recognise it then in real life and call people out for it. Part of my job requires me to know what is normal behaviour and report these sort of violent behaviour or move people away from situations like these. Yes. It happens in modern times.
Yes you can call me dramatic. Different people have different reasons for watching dramas. I am aware of my moral compass even when I am watching stories. I depend on my internal moral compass when I am listening to people. And if I keep watching such idiotic crap disguised as web dramas I am wasting my time. That's how people develop apathy towards violence, toxic behaviours in real life. I sometimes do and end up not making enough effort to help then in my job. Or underestimate the PTSD that people get from repeated abuse. This is this type of drama by the way. So I think this is a very valid reason for dropping it. I really must not watch web dramas. I think I am going to avoid it for several months. Or forever.
I really like it that the props and set us is pretty well done. Then you add in some unconventional ghost and demon stories. I have gotten bored with the standard demons.
So good acting plus a fresh story is nice. I don't actually know what is happening. I mean its boring right when you can predict storylines.
Here because of the various little plots I don't know if there is a bigger picture.
The actor that plays the brother. Didn't he play a young brother character recently in another drama? Something brocade or another. He keeps getting cast in those fairly big dramas. Anyway I can't work out if he has a major role here. Initially I thought his story was just the dead wife but he keeps popping up. The creepy inn story? The whole location just shrieks of murder and mystery. So now I have to wait to see where its going. I really thought his role has ended in the earlier episodes.
Even the random Wen Jian story made me laugh. I thought he was just a side character. He gets a story too.
The one thing that surprises me is why Banxia is ok walking all those dark alleys and even volunteering for the Mirror Demon.
I literally don't know what this drama is doing and I love it. Once in a while you actually want to watch an entertaining drama and go along for the ride.
There are no dramas to recommend. I can only recommend Kdramas. Study Group and that's literally it. I am rewatching You are my lover friend. Fast forwarding skipping.
Wu Lei looks good even without surgery. However he and Bai Jing Ting are distintive.
There will always be naturally good looking men in any country. However there is a common look them with the main leads and main supporting cast looks. Then you hit the extras. Who does look like an ordinary citizen.
I don't recognise half the actors you mentioned but 1/3 of the actors have very distinctive features. Enough for me to recognise them vs the XYZ plastic surgery fixed faces. I just spent 10 minutes googling who they are. Some have had nasal surgery and some with the lateral cantus lift.
What most- not all- have in common are acting skills. Half have charisma. I actually like Bai Jing Ting best amongst the lot. Then its actually Xiao Zhan next
I choose a drama primarily based on plot.
I actually like Korean dramas more than Chinese dramas so actually recognise more Korean actors than Chinese actors. I don't actually have anyone that I will watch. I need them to be in a good drama with a good role. Plus the actors have to be able to act.
I am not bashing whoever you mentioned specifically. There are thousands of actors. They are like 1% or less in the industry. Fans have to live under a rock if they don't acknowledge that plastic surgery is rampant. You surely don't think those big doll- like eyes on those actresses are natural right?
I was replying to the post about Allen Ren being ugly. The original reply.
Allen Ren is actually not my favourite actor. I just said he is not ugly.
I dunno. Even if he gets better the early episode still shows this type of character.
I will watch till episode 10 but the abundance of artificial flowers in her room shows such crass props.
So if the ML is psychotic and the writing bad will drop it.
Yes well she was saying Allen Ren is ugly. My god she has no idea how he compares to the average Chinese.
You might as well google about ear surgery where they pin it back.
I don't need to lie. Thee are a lot of good looking Chinese actors around more than 75% of them with surgery done.
Allen Ren is good looking and better still his good looks are distinctive. Not the factory churned out look like the rest. A lot of the actors especially those in support roles have the generic plastic surgery corrected features.
Now shaping the jaw line for comestic reason is a massive undertaking. For those who have a severe underbite and requires surgery beyond braces- they break the jaw. Long story short- that surgery freaks me out.
Chin implants and dimple creations are relatively simple.
I forgot to mention the lateral cantus surgery. Did you notice the unnaturally big eyes? Its not almond shaped. Asian eyes are usually called that shape.
Upper eyelids. The shaved jawlines and chin implants drives me bonkers.
Some have dental veneers some need dental veneers.
Don't even talk to me about the nasal implants or botox.
Or the actual physique with narrow shoulders. No muscle tones so the side profile sucks. No pecs. No gluteals.
There are so few naturally good looking Chinese actors. My family is East Asian so I said even with the different ethnicities finding a natural good looking Chinese actor without enhancement is rare.
Allen Ren looks good, can act and has great diction and a good voice.
Don't watch it then. If you're the CEO of one of the big casting agencies in China, Taiwan and S Korea- then you can talk.
There has been so many deaths that I trust in good endings yet for this drama.
So how is it? Not the plot. I mean is the male lead really psychotic or is he better? He was a psychopath in episode 1. Then he was definitely one in episode 2. We jail murderers these days. However even judges back in the olden days don't kill like he did. With such relish.
So how is he in ep 3 and 4? I am not even asking about any romance. I am watching to see how wild the writer would go.
So that's fairly common. She looks young, fresh but most of all she looks YOUNG. Skin can't lie.
So why do I have to keep watching people in their mid-30s play under 18 years old. Or even 14 years old? With definitely older and in their 30s male actors?
I am not even against their ages. Are fans going to tell me that talent trumps age? It actually doesn't. I had to suspend disbelief and it was jarring.
For this drama its the opposite. The female lead looks so young that the fine looking 34 year old at that time of filming looks so old next to her.
My rant today; not really a rant its more a vent is that why can't they cast age appropriate actresses?
I notice one of the supporting cast in this is the FL for Spring Burning. That will make her 29 in 2023. She was playing a college student in the just finished drama.
Man. I just want to enjoy and immersh myself in the plot. The casting should be acting and age appropriate casting.
I am now heading to ep 6. And when I am done since nothing else is on go back and rewatch Allen Ren's drama with Bai Lu. I am in love with his voice. Strong enough to not have the whispery no depth tone. Perfect diction. Expressive, extremely expressive voice acting