It is pretty an average show.It is not that toxic that I expected and not much deep that cmnts here are implying.…
considering this is based on one novel out of 3 make sense why Hira isn’t going to be fully developed, he still got a lot to grow because of his low self-esteem after getting bullied most of his life. That doesn’t change that fast.
Someone please slap me into oblivion so I can stop witnessing dumb comments on the internet. I just happened to come across a comment on tiktok that said Utsukare screams fetishization because it is a show made for women who likes to see other men kiss therefore it is not for mlm or good BL representation. THE FRUSTRATION. THE PAIN. THE NEED TO JUST DISAPPEAR FROM EARTH. What kind of take is this? What counts as a “Good BL representation”? Fluff?
I’m tired of people policing LGBTQ media by wanting it to be unproblematic all the time, but don’t even say a word at straight media (aka the bee movie, 365 days, fifty shades of grey) but no, BL has to be pure all the time, there shouldn’t be any complex or morally gray LGBTQ character because if there is, it is made for the straight women that fetishize mlm. I’m sick of it. Also, Do these people think Gay content creators don’t make problematic stories? Nobody, tell these snowflakes about the manga genre called Bara (BL created by gay men for other men). These mangas can have tropes just as problematic as the BL mangas made by women for women (as well as unproblematic), I legit came across one Bara BL that was tagged with “tw/rape, underage” and had a description saying “teenager meets older man at a public park,” you look at the tags and then the description, you do the math. If straight people are allowed to create problematic media about humans falling for bees, or a woman falling in love with her kidnapper. Let LGBTQ and allies write their own toxic/problematic stories and characters, people especially BL fandom culture should stop trying to censor LGBTQ media. Period. If you feel uncomfortable or don’t like where a show/film is going, drop it, and don’t blame the creators if you continue watching and feel triggered by it since your triggers aren’t the creators responsibility.
I really wish they'd fix it. 😭 (though it did make me want to get back to my japanese studies lol)It hurt my…
As Mademoiselle Noir said, it was more of a Gagaoolala translation error, they made a few more. However, if you don’t mind me giving you some more context based on the novel that we wasn’t shown on the series because it was just 6 episodes (24 minute each) I’d gladly will.
The director and scriptwriter do not go into detail for this considering it is connected to a scene that was supposed to happen in episode 5 but it did not happen because for some reason the director thought it was a better idea to make the Koyama confession longer than it should have been (maybe if the episodes were longer it could have been included). If not, Kiyoi would have slowly started living with Hira.
During the time that they live together, Kiyoi wants Hira to be his boyfriend and does anything he can to make that happen. Such as resting his head on his shoulders, touching him whenever he had the chance, giving him all types of hints but Hira never caught ANY of those hints. This frustrated Kiyoi, however, the breaking point started for Kiyoi when Hira was cutting Kiyoi’s toe nails and accidentally cut him which lead him to lick Kiyoi’s toe (YUP, in the novel/CD Drama. It is the TOE, not the fingers XD), anyway, Hira’s toe slurping gave Kiyoi a hard on, so when Hira noticed he offered him a blowjob. Which he did, but when Kiyoi offered to return the favor, Hira refused because he couldn’t bear to “disrespect” his king, and ranting about how it wasn’t appropriate. Hira, then went inside the bathroom to release himself (bc he also got hard from that toe licking lmao) and when he came out he told Kiyoi to not worry that he didn’t think of him (bc ofc he just cannot disrespect his king). This made Kiyoi so angry that he started to question himself, and he thought that maybe the reason why Hira was being this way is because of the way he treated him when they were in High School, so he tries to make it up to him by treating him nicely and smiling more often around him, he even goes as far as holding his hands in front of Koyama and others, when Hira denies that they have some sort of relationship, Kiyoi kisses him but Hira never caught on to his intentions. This was the breaking point that lead to that scene you saw on the show , in which Kiyoi says to him “Have you ever thought that I am in love with you?”
This is many people were confused and said Kiyoi never made it clear, well, he did. It just happened that the show couldn’t manage to include everything that occurred in the novel in a 24 minute episode. Before Kiyoi leaves Hira’s home, he tells him to never talk to him again and says to Hira, “I know I’m self-centered, but you’re much worse than me.” and part of Kiyoi’s point of view was also during this part, “I thought I was special to Hira, and I’m not wrong, but I finally understood, that the one who Hira treasures is the ideal version of me that he created in his mind. Not the real me.”
After this Kiyoi leaves crying and feeling embarrassed that he put so much effort in trying to make Hira realize how much he liked him, they kissed, they held hands, Kiyoi even watched his words to not hurt his feelings but none of it was enough to make Hira open his eyes. Later, Hira continues to email and do anything to apologize to Kiyoi, and we all know how it ended. Kiyoi ended up confessing all of his feelings, and that’s when Hira finally realized and asked Kiyoi if he could touch him as a lover. Then they got together and had sex all night in the end as you can see lmao.
So basically to sum it up, Kiyoi does regret being distant, indifferent, and rude to Hira during High School, which is why he was trying so hard to make it up to Hira while trying to get Hira to date him, which wasn’t very unsuccessful at the time.
Back to the “Kimoi” word, he refers to Hira as creepy rather than disgusting because Hira is, in fact, creepy and says things most people probably wouldn’t say to their partners. Like, during sex, Hira just kept mentioning about “I’m so happy, I could die” and “I love you to death,” he mentions the words “die” and “death” quite often which obviously has Kiyoi like “uhh… creepy” but he doesn’t hate it either, I guess he just learned to accept Hira’s way of showing love is different. Even in the second novel (which is not yet translated) someone who has read it told me there is a section in one of the chapters that implied Hira tried to commit suicide because he thought he would have to part from Kiyoi, after he died in one of his dramas as an actor (ngl i was shocked and thought it was kinda extreme, which I guess it is part of Hira’s pessimistic imaginations that continue to piss Kiyoi off in the second novel that they end up working out in the end). However, this person that told me this is not sure whether the author meant it literally or just as a dramatic expression. Oh, and another thing I know that happens is that Kiyoi is found in a dangerous situation (life or death) and Hira was there to save him and got hurt instead. Knowing all of this, it made me realize Hira really is the ride or die type, like he is very sensitive and sacrificial for those who are extremely important to him. Kiyoi tries hard to make the relationship work in this novel, so you could say out of the two, Kiyoi is the one that thinks “normally”
The drama was a bit rushed for me, but it was still enjoyable.No matter how you look at it though... the relationship…
I’m too lazy to discuss it but you can scroll to the other comments here and you’ll get some clarifications. Other than that, the adaptation stayed faithful to the novel, the only thing I would say was quite rushed was Kiyoi’s pov (it was still good bc they got the main point) but I still feel like they could have done more if only the episodes were longer.
I can't believe this was made. The whole fake shooting up your classmates thing is terrible. Not even remotely…
Mm, the gun imagery appears in one episode, and even if it appeared in all the episodes after that. Who cares? It is just imagery. they’re not promoting gun violence but using it as a metaphor for Hira finally standing up for himself. Any gun related issue is only an American problem, not a Japanese problem.
Well could have been 10/10 if the pre confession part was as in the novel and longer BUT still very very good!
considering the amount of time they had to put all the leftover material into one episode, it was still pretty good but I also wished it was a bit longer.
btw Kiyoi going to see Hira at the school and suddenly running away from him kinda threw me off because I was not expecting that to happen like that but whatever because we still got the confession!!!!
I just want you to know that this post is made especially for me lmao, I can't remember the name of that site…
PLS when I started I was all like “gagalala”? then I was like “I have to memorize this, let me pay attention” and when I actually read it carefully I was like “ARE THE CREATORS LADY GAGA’S FANS?!"
I’m tired of people policing LGBTQ media by wanting it to be unproblematic all the time, but don’t even say a word at straight media (aka the bee movie, 365 days, fifty shades of grey) but no, BL has to be pure all the time, there shouldn’t be any complex or morally gray LGBTQ character because if there is, it is made for the straight women that fetishize mlm. I’m sick of it. Also, Do these people think Gay content creators don’t make problematic stories? Nobody, tell these snowflakes about the manga genre called Bara (BL created by gay men for other men). These mangas can have tropes just as problematic as the BL mangas made by women for women (as well as unproblematic), I legit came across one Bara BL that was tagged with “tw/rape, underage” and had a description saying “teenager meets older man at a public park,” you look at the tags and then the description, you do the math. If straight people are allowed to create problematic media about humans falling for bees, or a woman falling in love with her kidnapper. Let LGBTQ and allies write their own toxic/problematic stories and characters, people especially BL fandom culture should stop trying to censor LGBTQ media. Period. If you feel uncomfortable or don’t like where a show/film is going, drop it, and don’t blame the creators if you continue watching and feel triggered by it since your triggers aren’t the creators responsibility.
The director and scriptwriter do not go into detail for this considering it is connected to a scene that was supposed to happen in episode 5 but it did not happen because for some reason the director thought it was a better idea to make the Koyama confession longer than it should have been (maybe if the episodes were longer it could have been included). If not, Kiyoi would have slowly started living with Hira.
During the time that they live together, Kiyoi wants Hira to be his boyfriend and does anything he can to make that happen. Such as resting his head on his shoulders, touching him whenever he had the chance, giving him all types of hints but Hira never caught ANY of those hints. This frustrated Kiyoi, however, the breaking point started for Kiyoi when Hira was cutting Kiyoi’s toe nails and accidentally cut him which lead him to lick Kiyoi’s toe (YUP, in the novel/CD Drama. It is the TOE, not the fingers XD), anyway, Hira’s toe slurping gave Kiyoi a hard on, so when Hira noticed he offered him a blowjob. Which he did, but when Kiyoi offered to return the favor, Hira refused because he couldn’t bear to “disrespect” his king, and ranting about how it wasn’t appropriate. Hira, then went inside the bathroom to release himself (bc he also got hard from that toe licking lmao) and when he came out he told Kiyoi to not worry that he didn’t think of him (bc ofc he just cannot disrespect his king). This made Kiyoi so angry that he started to question himself, and he thought that maybe the reason why Hira was being this way is because of the way he treated him when they were in High School, so he tries to make it up to him by treating him nicely and smiling more often around him, he even goes as far as holding his hands in front of Koyama and others, when Hira denies that they have some sort of relationship, Kiyoi kisses him but Hira never caught on to his intentions. This was the breaking point that lead to that scene you saw on the show , in which Kiyoi says to him “Have you ever thought that I am in love with you?”
This is many people were confused and said Kiyoi never made it clear, well, he did. It just happened that the show couldn’t manage to include everything that occurred in the novel in a 24 minute episode. Before Kiyoi leaves Hira’s home, he tells him to never talk to him again and says to Hira, “I know I’m self-centered, but you’re much worse than me.” and part of Kiyoi’s point of view was also during this part, “I thought I was special to Hira, and I’m not wrong, but I finally understood, that the one who Hira treasures is the ideal version of me that he created in his mind. Not the real me.”
After this Kiyoi leaves crying and feeling embarrassed that he put so much effort in trying to make Hira realize how much he liked him, they kissed, they held hands, Kiyoi even watched his words to not hurt his feelings but none of it was enough to make Hira open his eyes. Later, Hira continues to email and do anything to apologize to Kiyoi, and we all know how it ended. Kiyoi ended up confessing all of his feelings, and that’s when Hira finally realized and asked Kiyoi if he could touch him as a lover. Then they got together and had sex all night in the end as you can see lmao.
So basically to sum it up, Kiyoi does regret being distant, indifferent, and rude to Hira during High School, which is why he was trying so hard to make it up to Hira while trying to get Hira to date him, which wasn’t very unsuccessful at the time.
Back to the “Kimoi” word, he refers to Hira as creepy rather than disgusting because Hira is, in fact, creepy and says things most people probably wouldn’t say to their partners. Like, during sex, Hira just kept mentioning about “I’m so happy, I could die” and “I love you to death,” he mentions the words “die” and “death” quite often which obviously has Kiyoi like “uhh… creepy” but he doesn’t hate it either, I guess he just learned to accept Hira’s way of showing love is different. Even in the second novel (which is not yet translated) someone who has read it told me there is a section in one of the chapters that implied Hira tried to commit suicide because he thought he would have to part from Kiyoi, after he died in one of his dramas as an actor (ngl i was shocked and thought it was kinda extreme, which I guess it is part of Hira’s pessimistic imaginations that continue to piss Kiyoi off in the second novel that they end up working out in the end). However, this person that told me this is not sure whether the author meant it literally or just as a dramatic expression. Oh, and another thing I know that happens is that Kiyoi is found in a dangerous situation (life or death) and Hira was there to save him and got hurt instead. Knowing all of this, it made me realize Hira really is the ride or die type, like he is very sensitive and sacrificial for those who are extremely important to him. Kiyoi tries hard to make the relationship work in this novel, so you could say out of the two, Kiyoi is the one that thinks “normally”
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if y’all having trouble memorizing the name of the site just sing that part of the song and you’ll get it that’s how I learned LMAO