I want to offer a different perspective, if you don’t mind. Body language is part of the storytelling. In the…
And that is okay, really. Film is like a painting on a museum, because people will feel differently about it and have their own interpretation on what was shown. And we interpret based on our own understanding and how we see the world. I know that I, myself, missed some things while watching so I will rewatch and see if I can catch some things I missed. Anyway, thank you for taking the time to read my perspective.
I want to offer a different perspective, if you don’t mind. Body language is part of the storytelling. In the…
Yeah you can do films with just body language, in fact, you can do films with no dialogue at all, I’ve seen some in my film class back in college. I actually think the message is quite clear throughout the movie, all I did was watch their bodies and facial expressions and put two and two together based on their actions and the dialogue if there is any. For example, when they broke up, Sugiki tells Suzuki “you and I can never become one” and “we are enemies,” here Sugiki is talking about the Dance World. They are made to compete against each other, not dance with each other because the expectations are that dancing ballroom and Latin is something a man and a woman can do. That’s why they had that whole dance sequence between Sugiki and his ex gf prior to the break up, everyone was enamored with their dancing because they can only see Sugiki with her. They get the pleasure of trying to humiliate him on what he could have had and can never get— win number 1 as a world champion. So when he goes to see Suzuki he basically tells him that in the world of dance they can’t be together because they are men and expect to always compete against each other. This is why the final dance sequence is so important, because Sugiki decides to say fuck it and finally dance with the man he loves in front of everyone.
Anyway, movies are all made to be interpreted so if you didn’t get any of this while watching and got something entirely different… that is okay. I don’t find anything wrong with that, I just wanted to offer a different perspective of the movie based on my understanding.
I want to offer a different perspective, if you don’t mind. Body language is part of the storytelling. In the…
Fair enough, they could have incorporated more dialogue. As for the putting 2 kisses and a breakup, that is the downside of movies. There is never enough time to fully showcase something,
I disagree with the we don’t see them grow to accept each other unless I am misunderstanding what you meant. In my opinion we do see them grow to accept each other, at the beginning we saw them wanting control and win over the other, then as they got closer they began expressing their love and connection with their dancing together but then there is the breakup scene, Sugiki tells him that they can’t become one and that they can only enemies because that is what is expected of them. In the dance world, ballroom and Latin is expected to be danced by a man and a woman, not two men—and the people in the audience couldn’t see Sugiki dance past his ex which is why they made them dance together even if they broke up. When sugiki went to see him and saw Suzuki’s reaction, he realized this— that in the dance world they will always be made to compete against each other (be enemies) and not dance with each other (love). So in the final sequence, when Sugiki remembers what his coach said about love, he was like “fuck everyone else” and chose to dance with his love.
“Most MDLers were going to rate this flick highly, no matter what.” or maybe people just interpret media differently……
Like I said before, people interpret media differently. You argue with the goal of wanting to be right, so you ignore any push back from people when they disagree with you. Who would want to discuss any sort of media with someone who is always antagonizing others and being condescending? Certainly not me, which is why I did not offer to give my perspective on the points you brought up about the movie—so I focused on your “I am right, y’all just dumb fan girls” attitude because apparently you don’t know opinions are subjective.
Anyway, I am done here. Good night, day, or morning… wherever you are in the world.
“Most MDLers were going to rate this flick highly, no matter what.” or maybe people just interpret media differently……
“Because it is obviously the case” You keep proving me right… you have a condescending attitude about how the way you interpret things is the only right way, and that is not the case, It’s okay if you don’t like something, but you come across as “Don’t listen to what any of what these stupid fan girls are saying they don’t know what the fuck they are talking about because they are so dumb.”
"I provided a lot of evidence for why.” I haven’t seen the evidence the so called evidence yet.
Mind you, I never said anything of you being right or wrong. If you go back to my first comment I took issue with your attitude towards other people’s interpretation. I never commented on your opinion about the script or the themes etc.
“Most MDLers were going to rate this flick highly, no matter what.” or maybe people just interpret media differently……
I am not disinterested in another pov, I am open to hearing people’s thoughts about the movie even if it isn’t positive but you said and I quote "Most MDLers were going to rate this flick highly, no matter what. As is clear below, the ravers saw only what they wanted to see, whether it was projected onto the screen or not.” you came in here with the a condescending attitude of putting down everyone else’s interpretation only because they don’t align with yours.
A lot of work has gone into this,the dancing is superb and highly choreographed showing the training leading up…
I want to offer a different perspective, if you don’t mind. Body language is part of the storytelling. In the movie we get to see how the actors use their body language to portray what the character is feeling at the moment. For example, you can see in Suzuki’s actors face the pain and constraint that comes with dancing with Sugiki when they are practicing in the first half of the movie—this goes well with one of the themes of the movie which is control. Sugiki wants and needs control and that’s why throughout the movie they look in pain and missing the love. Sugiki moments prior to the last dance sequence says “love isn’t going to make me win” and right when he’s supposed to dance with his dance partner he remembers his coach words “Dance is neither about technique nor stamina… its about love” and he then finally chose love and invited Suzuki to dance with him.
The dance showcases the romance and sensuality of their relationship but also their struggle. In the manga, Suzuki and Sugiki struggle in their interpersonal relationship where neither one of them want to bottom, and we see that through their dance when you see who leads and how the other reacts to being lead.
Also, I want to clarify that the reason you don’t see the actual competition at the end is because the manga is still ongoing, but if you see Suzuki and Sugiki’s dance sequence at the end, they did all 10 dances so from that perspective they did do the 10 dance.
Now, I need the mangaka to get to work and finish the manga so we can get a sequel.
Huge budget, lush cinematography, glorious choreography/dancing, and excellent acting in service to a fatally…
“Most MDLers were going to rate this flick highly, no matter what.” or maybe people just interpret media differently… just because you feel some type of way don’t mean everybody else sees it the same way.
it’s probably because the manga is ongoing and there is so many volumes that is impossible to put them all in…
I hope they do make an announcement for second movie, also I need the mangaka to hurry up and end the manga already—I don’t want a potential sequel to end with an open ending cos she decided not to finish it.
it’s probably because the manga is ongoing and there is so many volumes that is impossible to put them all in…
They could have, but Netflix decided on a movie so there’s nothing we can do. I liked the ending but I would have wished to see them date for real, and for that reason I am gonna read the manga.
WOW! it has everything, tension, drama, seductivity, but didn't liked the ending... its kinda open. I hope they…
The ending seemed quite straight forward imho, they are clearly happy and kissed in front of an audience, what we didn’t get to see was the dating era. So we deserve a sequel.
Shirasaki pmo when he was making everything about himself during their conversation, however, he did bring up a good point. Asami does choose his roles based on what other people think, not based on what he wants. For instance, earlier this season his manager begged him to drop out of the play he’s always wanted to do for another project… and he chose what his manager wanted for him. I think Shirasaki's word delivery was out of place but the message is something Asami needed to hear.
Anyway, movies are all made to be interpreted so if you didn’t get any of this while watching and got something entirely different… that is okay. I don’t find anything wrong with that, I just wanted to offer a different perspective of the movie based on my understanding.
I disagree with the we don’t see them grow to accept each other unless I am misunderstanding what you meant. In my opinion we do see them grow to accept each other, at the beginning we saw them wanting control and win over the other, then as they got closer they began expressing their love and connection with their dancing together but then there is the breakup scene, Sugiki tells him that they can’t become one and that they can only enemies because that is what is expected of them. In the dance world, ballroom and Latin is expected to be danced by a man and a woman, not two men—and the people in the audience couldn’t see Sugiki dance past his ex which is why they made them dance together even if they broke up. When sugiki went to see him and saw Suzuki’s reaction, he realized this— that in the dance world they will always be made to compete against each other (be enemies) and not dance with each other (love). So in the final sequence, when Sugiki remembers what his coach said about love, he was like “fuck everyone else” and chose to dance with his love.
Anyway, I am done here. Good night, day, or morning… wherever you are in the world.
"I provided a lot of evidence for why.” I haven’t seen the evidence the so called evidence yet.
Mind you, I never said anything of you being right or wrong. If you go back to my first comment I took issue with your attitude towards other people’s interpretation. I never commented on your opinion about the script or the themes etc.
The dance showcases the romance and sensuality of their relationship but also their struggle. In the manga, Suzuki and Sugiki struggle in their interpersonal relationship where neither one of them want to bottom, and we see that through their dance when you see who leads and how the other reacts to being lead.
Also, I want to clarify that the reason you don’t see the actual competition at the end is because the manga is still ongoing, but if you see Suzuki and Sugiki’s dance sequence at the end, they did all 10 dances so from that perspective they did do the 10 dance.
Now, I need the mangaka to get to work and finish the manga so we can get a sequel.