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I feel super upset. Like hating on a character is one thing but hating on the actor? That's just not right.

I personally can't stand Koyama but I will always love and appreciate the actor who played the role for giving me this show to enjoy and even giving me Koyama's character to dislike lmao

In case someone missed it , Kiyoi has huge abandonment issues after his mother remarried . He has been quite lonely his hole life and felt people around him were using him. And then even Hira left him after graduation. No wonder he is bitter and upset

Ah thank you!

I asked and no one answered but what is sns? (I want to support)

OK this will be the end of my rant but I hate people who try to tell others what's right or wrong in a freaking relationship when 2 people are involved in it. You can't understand their relationship? Leave them alone. You don't get to decide if they can or can't be happy with each other. What if Hira likes Kiyoi with all his flaws? All his harsh words and his insecurities?What if Kiyoi likes Hira despite Hira being a huge creep? Who are you to decide what people should and shouldn't love? Some of us can and will accept our partners flaws .

This is why I can't stand Koyama. He is just like everyone else who tries to decide what's normal and what's not in Kiyoi's and Hira's relationship and I hate it.

Sorry for being annoying and ranting y'all! I needed to talk after watching this episode.

Best moment in the episode lol

Yes Kiyoi is not and has never been perfect. Yes he is an insecure little boy who seriously needs to communicate but he is the one in Hira's heart who is also far from nice and perfect.

It was shown in Hira's pov too? You know? When he thought of guns and got scolded by his teacher

Koyama was a mistake.

Giving ability to these animals to even watch this good series was even a bigger mistake.

No I don't take criticism

I hate Koyama . That's it. And I disagree with anyone who thinks he is the good guy in this show.

What is sns?

Nevertheless some people are either stupid or too young to even be able to watch utsukushii kare. I mean hating on thr actor who plays the role only because you can't understand the character?

I think you are too focused on Kiyoi and Hira and I am talking about something else entirely.

Forget about Hira and Kiyoi. You said that it's not stalking to watch a play right? But I say you should be a 1000% worried if someone who used to follow around appear to watch your play with a disguise. Because they are not there for the play, they are following you.

I already mentioned that since Kiyoi consents then there are no problems with Hira.

Reading the comments and I saw someone describe this relationship as breaking the norms of society and I think that's beautiful

Because we're not talking about a random guy watching a random play.
We are talking about Hira who previously used to follow Kiyoi around. If I was Kiyoi and saw Hira doing that with a disguise I would've been worried but I am not Kiyoi so it doesn't matter.

He was drunk. Come on folks

Because it never was the play he was watching.

Yeah Kiyoi doesn't mind and neither do I.

I agree with this

I mean his crush also grabbed him by the arm and trying to make him stay and both were drunk specially Kiyoi

Yes I noticed that too! I felt like I was the only one but Kiyoi in this episode seemed different from before. Angrier. Specially that moment when he called Hira gross after they met after a long time!

Come on you and I both know why Hira went to watch the play.

Let's just say Kiyoi is just as weird as Hira for enjoying Hira's attention because I know pretty well how scary it feels like when you always feel someone following you. Even Hira knows he is not doing the right thing.

Istg I am not trying to hate . I am just saying, there is a reason why he is called a stalker. It's literally in the show.

I mean I agree with you but I also want to point out that Hira actually followed Kiyoi more than just that.

He followed him to his studio, he followed after Kiyoi failed for the first time (without Kiyoi knowing) , he beat Kiyoi's bully and started following him and only him and after that during graduation and during this episode, he tried to go to Kiyoi's play without him noticing.


Don't get me wrong, this is not supposed to make Hira look bad(he is flawed, which are the results of getting bullied his entire life and finally having someone he likes in his life ) but when viewers (and Kiyoi) call him stalker , they aren't irrational. He does follow Kiyoi around enough to be called a stalker. But it's fine since Kiyoi is aware and doesn't seem to hate it.