I was thinking about this as well!!! Even at the end of the episode in the warehouse, Sean first tells White that…
White is so precious to him! In turn the part where White kinda calls Sean out for not protecting him against Yok? He was so sure Sean would do so otherwise! SeanWhite are really too in love and it makes me so happy. *\0/*
I was rewatching and it just struck me that Sean could have used his wish to guilt trip or kinda force White to confess to the gang but he chose to convince him and wanted White to make the decision himself. I just love how there is consent in every little SeanWhite interaction.
In both cases I think it was gradual progression rather than there being one single moment. Sean's feelings seemed…
I think White wasn't able to connect all his feelings initially, was it just curiousity or was it something more?. I think he felt really jealous when he saw Namo sleeping there but didn't KNOW it was jealousy. I think it was a mixture of jealousy and anger cuz HE had to argue so much about sleeping in the same bed when he first moved in to the room. I feel he was frustrated w the fact that it was so difficult for him to get in to Sean's bed or Sean's world while Namo was there so easily.
when do you think sean fell for white?also when did white fall for sean?who fell for who first?
In both cases I think it was gradual progression rather than there being one single moment. Sean's feelings seemed to start changing when the gang faked out White about Sean being kidnapped. Sean is visibly rocked when White tells him his life was worth more than what he thought. Then Sean discovering that he cuddles up to White at night and he wasn't pushed away w White not prying until Sean was ready. I think the defining moment was when Yok knocked sense into Sean after the factory fiasco and Sean saw how true White's words were in Yok's mom's situation. The Pride flag scene was the moment Sean leaned into trusting White, the adrenaline of having achieved something so great together, I feel Sean saw him as a true partner. Someone he wanted to continue doing this in life w. When he goes to White's room he literally fixes himself up lol. In White's case I think there's always been a special intrigue about Sean. I've said this before that initially Sean was like a puzzle that White wanted to solve, then he sees himself as a missing piece in that puzzle (he had an epiphanic moment when he confessed Fear and Bravery need to go together and He saw himself as the fear while Sean the bravery ) And later when he sees the broken man underneath he wants to fix him. He wants Sean to be happy and for everyone to be on Sean's side but I think he realises it was all love when Sean kisses him.
The cast of this is wonderful. I actually think Off was out-acting Gun this episode. On top of that he has a rare…
Off has been really great in every single scene and this ep he again becomes Sean so perfectly, everything he does seems so natural. In the SeanWhite scenes this ep I think he did better than Gun getting the emotions across, but Gun's acting overall this ep comes on top. The twins scene was very very well done and he brought out layers to Black's character there. About the twin connection I think it's a bit dramatised but knowing that there are evidences of twins irl having esp, twin telepathy and some actually feeling eo's pain , it isn't really that beyond comprehension I think. You and me may be the only ones who would prefer Eugene and Gram but I think people want Black Eugene cuz Eugene still seems to be in love w him and Black had been distancing her cz of a sense of righteousness. I think people aren't v excited abt a messy love triangle nor of the aspect of Gram breaking bro code plus the hope from the novel that GramBlack would be a thing has kinda put them off from Gram's character. Everyone was rooting for him to be a good guy and I think a lot feel his character hasn't been given any substance other than being in love. Personally I still think Gram's a good person just too hopelessly on the path to become a rebound.
Ooh this EP! I'm gonna sorely miss the roller coaster of emotions that every Not Me ep gives me. This ep left…
A bit of Black's character redemption and him gaining the audience's sympathy was done very well. The twin's riverside convo was very poignant specially using the drowning to remind us how they discovered their connection in the first place. The whole Sean Dan arc still feels incomplete to me and I do think they'll revisit this next ep, I think Sean hasn't forgiven Dan but by handing over the gun to Yok he clearly chose to look past it for Yok's sake. Gram may have been v harsh but in the end I think he made good points and he was looking out for Sean. I'm giving Yok and Gram the benefit of the doubt that they haven't seen Sean's extent of trauma like White and nor has Sean ever opened up to them so Gram being a neutral mediator was plausible while Yok spoke from fear. I still wish we get a proper closure for Sean on this. Now the Gram Eugene Black triangle actually has me interested because for some reason I think Eugene, and these boys affection for her, still has a bigger part left to play. I understand Gram being protective of her when Black came to hug cuz in ep 8 White as Black is very callous about Eugene and Gram kissing and White clearly tells him Eugene has no place in his life, which I think spurs on Gram to finally confess. I definitely wish we have a talk out between all 3 of them now that Gram knows it wasn't Black then. I think what people are dissappointed about w Gram's character development is they wanted him to be the good guy of the lot and the cheating (which technically it wasn't) and him breaking the bro code is very jarring. But I think that shows how all these characters are flawed. The writers actually got the audience to love and hate everyone in the gang at some point which I think was risky writing but I like contrast and drama so lol I eat that up. Next week's ep paralleling Sean driving a truck full of drugs just like his father and them possibly being charged in the same manner has me on edge tho.
Ooh this EP! I'm gonna sorely miss the roller coaster of emotions that every Not Me ep gives me. This ep left me really satisfied w a lot of loose ends being tied up. SeanWhite literally and figuratively running away from confrontations and confessions but in the end they couldn't keep themselves apart and I am so happy for them!! That lil bit in the factory was oozing so much tension, Sean got killer lines there. What bugs me is that this series would be soo good as a multiple season-ed series like in the west. 2eps left and it still feels like we need more. There are so many topics and relationship dynamics that can be thoroughly explored and I would love to see Nuchy have the time, space and budget to fully expand this world. They're doing their best to explain all the plot points but I know some will find it a bit of rush cz they've given us so many great characters that we want to learn more from all of them. More things I liked in this ep:
Sean and Black have a lot in common. Especially in how they love White in the sam e manner. I'm wondering what…
That's why I have a feeling we'll see White prove he's FOR the cause in later eps. But also White as Black has shown Sean that he can be trusted (the ep 8 trust falls and the convo in Black's room). And that he may not agree w Sean's methods but he believes in the cause and also does believe in Sean.. I think Sean is either just gonna be so relieved that the person he loves wasn't the one who rejected him that everything else may be secondary.
You know what I just realised? If we have 'Black' representing the dark character and 'White' the 'pure' character....then Sean's character represents the grey in between...
This episode was STRESS in one word. My god, they really said Ep10 we gonna hurt Sean in every possible way and make him want to die before actually making him possibly die. He's been so blinded by the warmth of 'Black's changes that he really thought it was a personality change and safe to say it is still far-fetched that a twin would be the obvious answer to him. When we saw him go through White's stuff he only found the glasses and contacts so he asked about the short sighted ness and he must've found a document w only White's name and not one w an accompanying photo so he only thought a sibling possibility. Black was brutal and maybe that seemed the only way to keep SeanWhite apart but yeah fck him (let me be mad at him for one night at least)
He really said "First is very hungry. Very hungry" I respect Gun :D
GMM didn't prohibit them as much as I know but Gawin isn't the kind of person who does fanservice. Even during dbk he and Podd had great chemistry but GMMTV never pursued it. FirstKhao are actually best friends irl and they've been very invested in promoting their cp doing spaces etc cuz they're super comfortable and close, and it looks like they really want eclipse and their pairing to do well. Rumors on Thai side are Gawin may get a bl lead role paired w Aun.
Being almost killed and being killed is night and day... I'm not getting into whatever ship provocations you think…
Of course it is, First degree murder gets you a lifetime prison term or even death penalty while involuntary manslaughter has a term limit which can later be reduced on account of the prisoner's behaviour. It isn't the same and it will never be the same.
Sigh, I was so hoping for W to slap back. Seriously, that boy has to stop taking shit from people or at least…
The Namo Sean as far as I feel didn't have any actual romantic relationship. The director said they didn't do the deed when White caught them in the bed. I think Namo may have wanted their friendship to grow towards a relationship but Sean was never sure. Maybe she had her hopes up because Sean treated her w care and like someone special to him. So I think seeing it as platonic is kinda right cz I think she also tried to play it cool around him. White has been privy to the most vulnerable Sean moments. You can go back and watch and see all the monologues that he has said about Sean. In ep5 the rooftop free running scene White talks about Bravery and Fear being hand in hand, and then goes on to call himself the fear to Sean's bravery. During the choking scene White isn't actually mad at Sean because he knows he deserves some sort of retaliation for going against the plan that Sean promised him not to. Not saying White was ok being choked, or that he liked it or that he's downplaying it, but my point is White comprehended the aggression even more so when Sean slipped that it was for his father. White has always been concerned about Sean even at the beginning. Sean has been a puzzle he wanted to solve since he's seen him, but later on wants to fix him. Knowing Sean's background and intention was key for him and in ep 8 he sees the hurt that Sean has bottled up inside. He's grateful when Sean opens up to him and explicitly states he wants to be trusted by Sean. When Sean does that trust fall White is nearly teared up cz of the gravity of Sean's trust in him that he tries to play it off. But Sean sees how much validation White wants from him and specifically confesses that White has become one of his reasons to live. Even during the pause in the love scene it shows Sean understanding White without even understanding. He's been drawn to him since day1 and finally he was able to pin his feelings down.
Let's stop the hypocrisy. Some of the viewers having a problem with Dan's actions (rightfully so) -and police…
Being almost killed and being killed is night and day... I'm not getting into whatever ship provocations you think there are but SeanWhite have already had that convo and moved on. Dan needs his redemption arc the same way.
I've replied to the prev commenter so just copy pasting Actually when they're arguing, she says ' We quarrel every single day, I'm just the trans ex gf you forgot about' but I think she meant it in humor and not literal. Idk I've been rewatching and their interactions seem very playful like yes if they were serious ex-es then would he be playfully calling her darling or sending flying kisses? Today it struck me cuz P'Nuchy was talking about actor Weir in her ig (cuz his romance life is in the news rn) and P'Nuchy put up a lot of couple like pics etc and was playfully saying 'I refuse to believe and I have pics to prove'. Anway lol it's a minor thing but I was wondering.
https://theblxpress.wordpress.com/2022/03/08/from-one-twin-to-another/
Sean's feelings seemed to start changing when the gang faked out White about Sean being kidnapped. Sean is visibly rocked when White tells him his life was worth more than what he thought. Then Sean discovering that he cuddles up to White at night and he wasn't pushed away w White not prying until Sean was ready. I think the defining moment was when Yok knocked sense into Sean after the factory fiasco and Sean saw how true White's words were in Yok's mom's situation.
The Pride flag scene was the moment Sean leaned into trusting White, the adrenaline of having achieved something so great together, I feel Sean saw him as a true partner. Someone he wanted to continue doing this in life w. When he goes to White's room he literally fixes himself up lol.
In White's case I think there's always been a special intrigue about Sean. I've said this before that initially Sean was like a puzzle that White wanted to solve, then he sees himself as a missing piece in that puzzle (he had an epiphanic moment when he confessed Fear and Bravery need to go together and He saw himself as the fear while Sean the bravery )
And later when he sees the broken man underneath he wants to fix him. He wants Sean to be happy and for everyone to be on Sean's side but I think he realises it was all love when Sean kisses him.
About the twin connection I think it's a bit dramatised but knowing that there are evidences of twins irl having esp, twin telepathy and some actually feeling eo's pain , it isn't really that beyond comprehension I think.
You and me may be the only ones who would prefer Eugene and Gram but I think people want Black Eugene cuz Eugene still seems to be in love w him
and Black had been distancing her cz of a
sense of righteousness. I think people aren't v excited abt a messy love triangle nor of the aspect of Gram breaking bro code plus the hope from the novel that GramBlack would be a thing has kinda put them off from Gram's character. Everyone was rooting for him to be a good guy and I think a lot feel his character hasn't been given any substance other than being in love. Personally I still think Gram's a good person just too hopelessly on the path to become a rebound.
The whole Sean Dan arc still feels incomplete to me and I do think they'll revisit this next ep, I think Sean hasn't forgiven Dan but by handing over the gun to Yok he clearly chose to look past it for Yok's sake. Gram may have been v harsh but in the end I think he made good points and he was looking out for Sean. I'm giving Yok and Gram the benefit of the doubt that they haven't seen Sean's extent of trauma like White and nor has Sean ever opened up to them so Gram being a neutral mediator was plausible while Yok spoke from fear. I still wish we get a proper closure for Sean on this.
Now the Gram Eugene Black triangle actually has me interested because for some reason I think Eugene, and these boys affection for her, still has a bigger part left to play.
I understand Gram being protective of her when Black came to hug cuz in ep 8 White as Black is very callous about Eugene and Gram kissing and White clearly tells him Eugene has no place in his life, which I think spurs on Gram to finally confess. I definitely wish we have a talk out between all 3 of them now that Gram knows it wasn't Black then.
I think what people are dissappointed about w Gram's character development is they wanted him to be the good guy of the lot and the cheating (which technically it wasn't) and him breaking the bro code is very jarring. But I think that shows how all these characters are flawed. The writers actually got the audience to love and hate everyone in the gang at some point which I think was risky writing but I like contrast and drama so lol I eat that up.
Next week's ep paralleling Sean driving a truck full of drugs just like his father and them possibly being charged in the same manner has me on edge tho.
What bugs me is that this series would be soo good as a multiple season-ed series like in the west. 2eps left and it still feels like we need more. There are so many topics and relationship dynamics that can be thoroughly explored and I would love to see Nuchy have the time, space and budget to fully expand this world. They're doing their best to explain all the plot points but I know some will find it a bit of rush cz they've given us so many great characters that we want to learn more from all of them.
More things I liked in this ep:
https://open.spotify.com/track/6CfOyhim0R2Sp6YA0WPkAh?si=hbC3IvFgQm6HUzUbyeUelA&utm_source=copy-link
He's been so blinded by the warmth of 'Black's changes that he really thought it was a personality change and safe to say it is still far-fetched that a twin would be the obvious answer to him. When we saw him go through White's stuff he only found the glasses and contacts so he asked about the short sighted ness and he must've found a document w only White's name and not one w an accompanying photo so he only thought a sibling possibility.
Black was brutal and maybe that seemed the only way to keep SeanWhite apart but yeah fck him (let me be mad at him for one night at least)
White has been privy to the most vulnerable Sean moments. You can go back and watch and see all the monologues that he has said about Sean. In ep5 the rooftop free running scene White talks about Bravery and Fear being hand in hand, and then goes on to call himself the fear to Sean's bravery. During the choking scene White isn't actually mad at Sean because he knows he deserves some sort of retaliation for going against the plan that Sean promised him not to. Not saying White was ok being choked, or that he liked it or that he's downplaying it, but my point is White comprehended the aggression even more so when Sean slipped that it was for his father.
White has always been concerned about Sean even at the beginning. Sean has been a puzzle he wanted to solve since he's seen him, but later on wants to fix him. Knowing Sean's background and intention was key for him and in ep 8 he sees the hurt that Sean has bottled up inside. He's grateful when Sean opens up to him and explicitly states he wants to be trusted by Sean. When Sean does that trust fall White is nearly teared up cz of the gravity of Sean's trust in him that he tries to play it off. But Sean sees how much validation White wants from him and specifically confesses that White has become one of his reasons to live. Even during the pause in the love scene it shows Sean understanding White without even understanding. He's been drawn to him since day1 and finally he was able to pin his feelings down.
Actually when they're arguing, she says ' We quarrel every single day, I'm just the trans ex gf you forgot about' but I think she meant it in humor and not literal. Idk I've been rewatching and their interactions seem very playful like yes if they were serious ex-es then would he be playfully calling her darling or sending flying kisses? Today it struck me cuz P'Nuchy was talking about actor Weir in her ig (cuz his romance life is in the news rn) and P'Nuchy put up a lot of couple like pics etc and was playfully saying 'I refuse to believe and I have pics to prove'. Anway lol it's a minor thing but I was wondering.