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Replying to jpny01 Feb 11, 2022
All ghost stories do this - it's inevitable. Actually Phob said he can touch things when he concentrates, and…
I don't think there's been any inconsistences as it relates to what Phob can interact with as a ghost.

Here are the quotes directly from the show:

Phob: "I can walk through walls and hold things that are not living objects."

"and I have to use intense concentration."

"The mass and weight of things affect my concentration"

Phat: "Then you can't touch me, right?" - *Phob nods in agreement*

Phat: "Or can you touch me through my clothes?"

Phat: "I already did that when you were sleepwalking on the balcony."

"I was the one who grabbed your shirt."

So that should clear up any confusion. Phob can only touch non living objects if he concentrates hard enough. And he can only physically interact with Phat(touch him) through his cloths or in his dreams.

and that's much better than most shows since they very rarely establish the basic rules to stick with, which tend to lead to inconsistencies.
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Replying to JeA Feb 11, 2022
Title Precise Shot
I don't know what to say about Chinese Bromance. I think it's the first one I've seen so far and it's both entertaining…
I tend to look at shows like this one as more of a subgenre. Sitting somewhere between BL and Bromance(I call it censored BL).

They give subtle indicators without overtly confirming the relationship to pass censorship laws. Most BL novels that get adapted into dramas do tend to become platonic bromances. However, shows like this one(Precise Shot) tell enough to the audience to let them know the relationship is more than platonic(like you pointed out).

In typical bromances there are no indicators that the characters share any romantic interest in the other. So you will understand that it's just guys being close to each other, even if you ship them together. So that's a much different situation in my opinion.

There are many series that have started to fall under this category since Guardian, The Untamed, and Word of Honor have refined the 'technique', and have basically created a whole new subgenre of BL. A recent example is a new drama from China called 'The Best Friend', and of course there are many more upcoming ones.
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Replying to AEROROR2 Feb 9, 2022
The drama itself stated that Phob can’t literally touch things. But explained to me how he -as a ghost, managed…
Phob said he can't touch people, but there is a loophole to that since he can touch inanimate objects; such as the clothes they're wearing.

When he rescued Phat, we see that he pulled on his shirt to save him. So he technically didn't touch Phat, it was just his shirt.

Another loophole is Phob can touch Phat when they are in his dream space. The sequence when he saved Phat actually had two moments play at the same time: One in the real world(where Phat is sleepwalking) and other in the dream space(when Phat sees his dad).

When Phob grabbed Phat's arm, they were in the dream space, and when he pulled Phat's shirt to save him from jumping from the balcony, they were in the real world.

Hope that clears up the confusion for future readers, I think this had a lot to do with the cut version missing certain details, so it is probably best to watch uncut version if you have the option.
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Replying to Quedema Feb 6, 2022
Title Rak Diao Spoiler
So I must say I always love the enemy to lover storyline ( ie... THARNTYPE) but for some reason I truly HATE Diao.…
I think it's just because of all the misunderstandings and bad impressions Diao is having with Rak. Daoi actually didn't get mad that Rak spilled the coffee on his shoe for example. It was because he thought Daoi was mocking him and looking down on him(even though Rak was being sincere and was speaking from experience).

Daoi is indeed short tempered and hot headed but he seems to have fair moral values and good work ethics. I like their chemistry because they both seem to be able to push the other to their extremes in interesting ways. I think Daoi is probably so aggressive because he can feel an attraction between them. You'll notice he actually behaves the complete opposite with literally everyone else.

I think it will all settle down within the next couple of episodes. Daoi is starting to find out about a lot of those misunderstandings and is already starting to show a change of heart(showing Rak how to use the fume hood was the first step, and his way of acknowledging that he was probably wrong about him).

and he's definitely not anywhere close to Type's level(yet). Who was quite violent, homophobic, and physically aggressive(granted because of mental trauma that he was dealing with at the time).
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Replying to rkivesthighs Jan 23, 2022
Title Bad and Crazy Spoiler
which one?
What I'm saying is we don't know if they'll revisit how he manipulated Su Yeol's mother in the next episode. We don't have the full picture of how he manipulated any of his victims really, but that could still change. The show isn't over yet to make that conclusion. It may seem like a stretch that Yun Ho could manipulate her in such a short time span, but him using drugs to accelerate the process on an already mentally unstable patient seems totally plausible(they've already introduced the idea that he could be using drugs). It would be very easy for him to prescribe her any sort of meds to help him in doing that. It's not like she's going to google them to see what they can do. 😆

The show does have a lot of plot devices and is overthetop on many of its plot points, but that's sort of the story this show was advertised for having They never promised us a grounded gritty drama based in complete realism. There are so many things that don't add up if you try to take it too seriously, like how Su Yeol and K are able to fight two people at the same time when they are one person or be sandwiched between boxes and unable to break free. I enjoy it for the compelling story and drama, and comedy. I think it makes enough sense for the story it's trying to tell.
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Replying to rkivesthighs Jan 23, 2022
Title Bad and Crazy Spoiler
which one?
I don't remember them mentioning how many times she visited the therapist. Only that he transferred to her facility around the time of the Baek Young Joo case(which was around ep8). That's plenty of time to manipulate a patient who was already under a lot of mental instability. They even indicated that Yun Ho could be using drugs to help in gaslighting his victims(evidence they mentioned they would search for in Ep 11).

We didn't get to see the full picture of how he manipulated Su Yeol's mother, so I don't get why people are already concluding that this must be a plot hole. I think we should wait to see how things play out first before we make assumptions. It was obvious they wanted us to think Yun Ho won in this episode. So making everything seem hopeless was sort of the point. 😐

The camera and mic quality are minor nitpicks. As is the pill not dissolving. They don't really impact the plot or the story in any significant manner. They are fun to poke at but it's still a reach to suggest these are something to really complain about.
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Replying to rkivesthighs Jan 22, 2022
Title Bad and Crazy Spoiler
which one?
He actually might've kept one of the photos. Right after he has the meeting with the Therapist about Yun Ho's records from the shelter in ep9, we see Su Yeol looking over one of the photos on the roof of the Youth Shelter. This is right before he sees the girl about to leap from the building. What's not clear though is if he returned the photo after that, but my money is on he kept it for evidence.
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Replying to rkivesthighs Jan 22, 2022
Title Bad and Crazy Spoiler
which one?
I don't know if these would count as plot holes yet(other than the tablet not dissolving in his mouth). We have to remember that Su Yeol is purposefully playing the fool for a reason in the psyche ward. He is clearly training and building a case for himself that we will likely see in the finale. Hee Kyum also mentioned that the team was building a case to prove his innocence. So I don't think anyone has given up on the case yet.

The Therapist is working at the Youth Shelter and is the one who controls those records. He only showed the record and photos of Yun Ho to Su Yeol. So it would be very easy for him to hide those records if others came to look for them. It's possible Su Yeol wasn't thinking about the photos after he was gaslighted by the Therapist, but remembers them now.

Even if they are able to find some record of Yun Ho's existence, such as the example you brought up about him being the son of a drug dealer, It doesn't actually prove he is the same person Su Yeol is talking about and met at the youth shelter(remember, Yun Ho is in control of those records).

Also, the Therapist could easily spin the story that Su Yeol based the personality on someone he met before, such as the Yun Ho he met at the youth shelter, and committed the crimes through those means without knowing he was a split personality.

The Therapist has been covering his tracks vey well at this point. The chief even mentions that he has a contract with their HQ. So there's no telling how deep his reach goes, even in relation to officials trying to dig into his past. He's not just a typical therapist, and clearly has a lot more power than many think.
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On Bad and Crazy Jan 21, 2022
Title Bad and Crazy Spoiler
The reveal was predictable but boy did they deliver on the execution. I wasn't disappointed or underwhelmed one bit! This proves knowing the outcome doesn't ruin a story. Kudos to the team for sticking with it despite them having to know most would figure it out anyway.
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Replying to nene Jan 16, 2022
Title Bad and Crazy Spoiler
I think the shelter therapist. Yun Ho was very manipulative as a child so wouldn’t he become a master manipulator…
@Duncan I know I responded to your other post, but I wanted to point out that Yun Ho seems to be the original mastermind which suggests it started with him, and not necessarily someone else at the youth center when they were younger. His name was on the letters that were sent to Seong Bok Jun(The Barber) that were the same for well over a decade. So we at least know Yun Ho manipulates people.

The therapist is the same age as Su Yeol, so it's possible Su Yeol was his first victim, and he continued to gaslight other kids at the youth shelter following this. And then continued in this path for years. Sharpening his skills and rank by posing as a therapist to maximize his victims at the youth shelter with the perfect cover story.

The Therapist is also very infatuated with Su Yeol, which suggest they have a deeper connection to each other that he isn't telling Su Yeol about. It's almost too obvious, so I would actually be fine if Andrei turned out to be Yun Ho instead of the therapist, but I think he(Andrei) and his boss are probably just another one of his victims from the youth shelter.
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Replying to Clarywayland20 Jan 16, 2022
Title Bad and Crazy Spoiler
Let’s vote !!Who’s YunHo?Just the name, no need of any explanations 🙌
Going with the shelter therapist. Yun Ho is obviously someone who is very skilled at manipulating people, so the youth therapist is the likely culprit.
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Replying to inneoish Jan 15, 2022
Title Bad and Crazy Spoiler
This being said if the youth shelter therapist is the main mastermind, god, that would be some predictable shit…
The psychiatrist from the youth shelter isn't too old. Jung Sung Il(the therapist actor) is only around a year older than Lee Dong Wook(and is the same age as Andrei's actor). So he definitely fits the age description for Yun Ho and I think has a higher chance of being him than Andrei. Who doesn't seem to have the brains nor the presence to pull off manipulating people without scaring them off first for looking like a total creep. 😆
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