Dannie00

I agree with you, but I'm so disappointed that someone so shrewd would be so careless. But wasn't he showing small signs of being psycho/dangerous? I feel that she thought his psycho probably wouldn't match hers, no matter how bad he was.

Like, I'm not sure they're getting it lol. What's this morality police about? Of course, what she's doing half the time is wrong. But I guess some people don't get that half either, which may be why there's a morality war? It's weird

His mother so doesn't love him

EP9:
- Jae O should have said something about those guys who beat him up earlier.
- So, this new guy is the evil final boss, trying to kill the guys??!!!😭Ahjin is seriously unlucky.
- Why is Seung Hui here? I can't understand why Ahjin would let her stay around?? Someone please make it make sense??

EP10:
- Jun Seo is going through a lot bruh. Ahjin always finds a way to make everything his fault.
-So it's his fault that his mother dragged her by the head, even if she was the one threatening his mother, and his mother just genuinely sucks? So, it's too much to expect a friend (at the very minimum, that's what they are) to pick up his calls? I'd lose my mind too.
-What did he do to deserve that sort of mother anyway? gosh.
-Ahjin's crazy eyes get worse every episode😭(21:01mins)
-He’s stalking her😭 (28:27 mins) What is he staring at while she’s asleep??? (50:35mins) Is he drugging her too?
-I know damn well he let Sung Hee into the house (53:29)😭no but how can she get so unlucky😭

It's a pity because even if Ahjin wasn't curious about his third-floor study, even if she stayed put and tried not to ruffle his feathers, he seems to be playing with her mind so she'll inevitably go crazy. Imagine my surprise when sis went trying to look in the study and saying that both of them were masters of the house. She's surrounded by his people and isolated but she hasn't noticed (I wouldn't have either tbh). She's at the top now. Why should what people think of her bother her? Why does she feel like she should have access to the study when she doesn't actually know the guy yet? She doesn't want to just climb to the top; she wants to keep her ego in the process. Marrying someone so randomly would not have been the best choice for someone who wants that, now would it? Nothing is for free, so I thought she would be more cautious than that. When the devil takes, he takes with a long, deep spoon.
The listening devices are the worst part. You can't plan with a mole in the room.

Yeah, she has to be punished, but by another psycho? Now, that's just unfair. That's what hurts me😭 by the police yeah, but she doesn't deserve to be hurt by this rando psycho😭

Started episode 1 and almost crashed out when I saw Yang Bing Yun😭😂 I was so upset it’s kinda funny. I appreciated the original’s poker face and subtle expressions and it felt right for the character that I can’t read him clearly. I can read this new one like a book it’s irritating 😭 the level of stoic in this new one is not givinggg

Yeah, I don’t think I’ll watch the last few episodes to avoid the pain

Lighter and Princess. You can say they fell together but damn, Queen fell so hard

Back this for my yearly comment: I love this show

"He is hypocritical and manipulative IMO. In fact he might be darker than her. He could have saved her but he didn't."
Yeah, how do you think he got like that?

Yes it’s in the latter half. The second couple is kinda cute but the whole thing with his grandparents (which comes up later) gets in the way of the story at some points.

Exactly. It’s not like people with ASPD have NO feelings at all. What they can feel highly depends on the person. The summary is this: “their emotional experience is different from that of others, particularly in their limited capacity for empathy and remorse. They may experience emotions like anger, frustration, boredom, and irritability more frequently or intensely, while emotions like happiness or fear may be felt less clearly or deeply. Their emotions are often tied to their own desires and needs, such as frustration when they don't get what they want.” People are saying the director got it wrong and she doesn’t really have ASPD because she’d never be like that. She doesn’t have to be 100% ruthless all the time to be someone with ASPD. It’s empathy she lacks the most so, in the end she’s frustrated because she can’t have what she wants. But maybe he should have made it clearer that she’s upset by the situation not people dying

I've replied just above to LOVEISYOU, to why I think Jun Seo is a victim.

Well, I didn't know about the final X thing, so you just spoiled that for me😭
The discussion she had with him when he was mad at her and blaming her for the situation, and she was on the floor, telling him about how he didn't save her as a child, and if he left her she would never blame him, but that instead of all that he should be sorry for her and do everything he can for her. He wants to get mad at the situation and start using his own thinking, but whenever she brings that up, he's disarmed and can't think clearly for himself for a while after that. That's her using guilt to control him. He knows she's using him, but as you know, he won't go as far as to harm another person directly for her. But he lets that happen because he thinks he exists for her and that he should. Her actions reaffirm that every time. He's starting to spot that she's just using him and planning to discard him the same way. It's now that he's starting to understand that. And it would be great if he just took the L and nursed his pain, but he's becoming angry instead. It was okay that he was mad at her about the grandma. He's a person, not a mind reader. If she didn't do it, she could've said so. I'm aware that she didn't because she blamed herself and was upset that he didn't trust her, but it doesn't change that she didn't tell him that she didn't do it to him.

From his pov, she's someone who would kill a person- it's true. She can even if she hasn't. If she has a chance, she'll kill any person in her way. She doesn't because it's not that easy to kill and get rid of someone. He's scared of what she'll do because he knows her darkest desires best. He sees her manipulate every situation. How could he trust her, knowing all that? Jae O is different because she's kept the worst things she did from him. And it's possible that even if he knew, he'd still support her because he puts her on a pedestal and thinks she can do no wrong. He doesn't put her on a pedestal. He thinks they belong to each other (which is what he thought as they grew up). Jun Seo's reaction is more natural. If you knew her in real life, you'd be worried she did it too.
Also, it's true that she manipulated his thinking as a child because she was in a dire situation, but it doesn't change that his way of thinking (of their relationship) as an adult is directly a result of her influence on him. Her manipulation had consequences, and now he's becoming dangerously obsessive because he's losing his identity, which he thinks is tied to her. Yes, she had to do it at the time, but the damage is done, and it's something that exists because of her actions, no matter the reason she did it in the first place. It's the same way that in the end, he madness is a result of what her parents put her through as a child. In the end, it's their fault that she's like this, even if she's an adult now.
Her manipulation is something he can't see through. You can see him struggle with right and wrong because of this. Now that she wants to dispose of him, his world is crumbling. It's a world she built, even if she originally built it out of necessity

Her manager too😭😂 you guys keep forgetting her manager

So sad. My hear hurt throughout yesterday damn

The speculations are too painful 😭😭 why did gran have to die😭

She did tell Jun Seo she would come back though. She keeps avoiding telling him that she doesn’t want to be with him like that and it’s because she wants to be able to retain some control over him. Tbh even if she tells him firmly he might still lose his shit and crash out anyway but it would still be a product of her original manipulation. It’s a no win situation

How can you say that😭 Jun Seo is someone she moulded into who he is since they were children. She told him his duty in this life is to be sorry to her and to protect her so that’s what he thinks. She has used guilt to control him since he was just a child. She said he should have rescued her in the bathroom that day but it’s something she says to keep him obedient. He was a child too and couldn’t actually have saved her 😭 but because she also made him think she was the only one that ever loved him as they were growing up he’s bonded to her now. We watched the same show how could you miss this😭 yeah, she went through a lot but he and Jae O are literally her first victims. That doesn’t completely absolve them of their wrongs but when you’re talking about their dynamic you have to be clear that it’s on her. Jun Seo is acting crazy because he doesn’t know how else to be. He thinks he was put on this earth to protect her but she keeps leaving him and telling him she’ll be back- he can’t understand it and won’t. Humans are not always perfect robots so because he has his own conscience and is becoming obsessed he’s now acting in a way she didn’t plan for. If she stayed by his side he wouldn’t be struggling with his identity rn. His madness is also her creation, she’ll have to bear that. That’s on her. Don’t turn it on him😭

100% agree

Exactly